Re: Is the datatracker authoritative (was: WG Review: Dynamic Host Configuration (dhc))

2013-08-31 Thread Jari Arkko
SM, I assumed that the message was generated by the data tracker. The secretariat sends out last call and WG review messages, but the data comes from the tracker. For WGs, this is actually a relatively recent addition. A while ago the proposed charters were not tracked in the database. In any

Re: An IANA Registry for DNS TXT RDATA (I-D Action: draft-klensin-iana-txt-rr-registry-00.txt)

2013-08-31 Thread manning bill
given the nature of the TXT RR, in particular the RDATA field, I presume it is the path of prudence to set the barrier to registration in this new IANA registry to be -VERY- low. Or is the intent to create a two class system, registered and unregistered types? /bill On 30August2013Friday, at

Gen-ART LC review of draft-ietf-repute-model-08

2013-08-31 Thread Roni Even
I was asked to review the 08 version but my comments from 07 were not addressed and I did not see any response. So I am resending my previous review As for making it a standard track document, I am not sure since it looks to me as an overview and not standard. And there is no normative language

Re: Is the datatracker authoritative (was: WG Review: Dynamic Host Configuration (dhc))

2013-08-31 Thread Ted Lemon
On Aug 31, 2013, at 12:10 AM, S Moonesamy sm+i...@elandsys.com wrote: announcement really ought to just point to the datatracker, since what's there is normative. This is an individual opinion. Please assume that the entire IETF disagrees with it. The datatracker is not the authoritative

Re: An IANA Registry for DNS TXT RDATA (I-D Action: draft-klensin-iana-txt-rr-registry-00.txt)

2013-08-31 Thread John C Klensin
--On Saturday, August 31, 2013 02:52 -0700 manning bill bmann...@isi.edu wrote: given the nature of the TXT RR, in particular the RDATA field, I presume it is the path of prudence to set the barrier to registration in this new IANA registry to be -VERY- low. That is indeed the intent. If

Re: Gen-ART LC review of draft-ietf-repute-model-08

2013-08-31 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
Hi Roni, I didn't see your previous review for some reason. I can't respond in full now as I'm about to travel, but I will over the long weekend (unless Andrew gets to it first). Thanks, -MSK On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 4:27 AM, Roni Even ron.even@gmail.com wrote: I was asked to review

Re: Call for Volunteers to Serve on the ICANN Nominating Committee

2013-08-31 Thread IAB Chair
The IAB has selected Russ Mundy to serve on the 2014 ICANN NOMCOM. An active member in the IETF and ICANN communities, Russ serves as a vice-chair of the Security Stability Advisory Committee of ICANN and has been an active participant in the IETF for many years, having implemented DNSSEC.

Re: Call for Volunteers to Serve on the ICANN Nominating Committee

2013-08-31 Thread Patrik Fältström
On 31 aug 2013, at 18:33, IAB Chair iab-ch...@iab.org wrote: An active member in the IETF and ICANN communities, Russ serves as a vice-chair of the Security Stability Advisory Committee of ICANN and has been an active participant in the IETF for many years, having implemented DNSSEC.

Re: [IAB] Call for Volunteers to Serve on the ICANN Nominating Committee

2013-08-31 Thread Russ Housley
Patrik: Thanks for the correction. The error is mine. Russ On Aug 31, 2013, at 12:51 PM, Patrik Fältström wrote: On 31 aug 2013, at 18:33, IAB Chair iab-ch...@iab.org wrote: An active member in the IETF and ICANN communities, Russ serves as a vice-chair of the Security Stability

draft-moonesamy-ietf-conduct-3184bis

2013-08-31 Thread Melinda Shore
It seems like this would be a good time for an update. A few comments: . I think there are a few things that we've been taking for granted that everybody knows, because they did, but that may not longer be the case and consequently they should be made explicit. One that really popped out

Re: draft-moonesamy-ietf-conduct-3184bis

2013-08-31 Thread Phill
On Aug 31, 2013, at 2:02 PM, Melinda Shore melinda.sh...@gmail.com wrote: It seems like this would be a good time for an update. A few comments: . I think there are a few things that we've been taking for granted that everybody knows, because they did, but that may not longer be the

Re: draft-moonesamy-ietf-conduct-3184bis

2013-08-31 Thread Dave Crocker
On 8/31/2013 11:02 AM, Melinda Shore wrote: . I'd like to see some mention of consensus-seeking behavior; that is to say, we make decisions on the basis of rough consensus and so the goal of discussion should be to build consensus rather than to win. +10. Might be worth referencing

Re: draft-moonesamy-ietf-conduct-3184bis

2013-08-31 Thread Scott Brim
Pete, what is that draft waiting on before becoming an Informational RFC?

Re: draft-moonesamy-ietf-conduct-3184bis

2013-08-31 Thread S Moonesamy
At 11:02 31-08-2013, Melinda Shore wrote: It seems like this would be a good time for an update. A few comments: . I think there are a few things that we've been taking for granted that everybody knows, because they did, but that may not longer be the case and consequently they should be

Re: An IANA Registry for DNS TXT RDATA (I-D Action: draft-klensin-iana-txt-rr-registry-00.txt)

2013-08-31 Thread Masataka Ohta
The draft does not assure that existing usages are compatible with each other. Still, the draft may assure new usages compatible with each other. However, people who want to have new (sub)types for the new usages should better simply request new RRTYPEs. If we need subtypes because 16bit RRTYPE

Re: draft-moonesamy-ietf-conduct-3184bis

2013-08-31 Thread Hector Santos
Along with the other recent drafts for streamlining the RFC process, I get the feeling even this new drafting on conduct is simply going to be a new rubber stamping tool to shut down the process of due diligent engineering discussions, required cross areas reviews, including increasing

Re: draft-moonesamy-ietf-conduct-3184bis

2013-08-31 Thread S Moonesamy
Hi Hector, At 14:50 31-08-2013, Hector Santos wrote: Along with the other recent drafts for streamlining the RFC process, I get the feeling even this new drafting on conduct is simply going to be a new rubber stamping tool to shut down the process of due diligent engineering discussions,

Re: draft-moonesamy-ietf-conduct-3184bis

2013-08-31 Thread William McCall
On 08/31/2013 09:52 PM, S Moonesamy wrote: Lars Eggert made the following comment: I actually WANT this draft to talk about the CONSEQUENCES (posting rights getting taken away, personal attendance made impossible, etc.) of not following the code of conduct! I think that would be by

Re: draft-moonesamy-ietf-conduct-3184bis

2013-08-31 Thread S Moonesamy
Hi William, At 21:41 31-08-2013, William McCall wrote: Just one point that irks me a bit about this draft... this draft would imply the violation of the code upon those who do (however inadvertently) are 1) Native English speakers and 2) use slang of some nature (which is quite arbitrary). I'd

Re: Call for Volunteers to Serve on the ICANN Nominating Committee

2013-08-31 Thread IAB Chair
The IAB has selected Russ Mundy to serve on the 2014 ICANN NOMCOM. An active member in the IETF and ICANN communities, Russ serves as a vice-chair of the Security Stability Advisory Committee of ICANN and has been an active participant in the IETF for many years, having implemented DNSSEC.

Re: [IAB] Call for Volunteers to Serve on the ICANN Nominating Committee

2013-08-31 Thread Russ Housley
Patrik: Thanks for the correction. The error is mine. Russ On Aug 31, 2013, at 12:51 PM, Patrik Fältström wrote: On 31 aug 2013, at 18:33, IAB Chair iab-ch...@iab.org wrote: An active member in the IETF and ICANN communities, Russ serves as a vice-chair of the Security Stability