Re: [ietf-privacy] Status?

2014-05-07 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 10:03:55AM -0700, David Singer sin...@apple.com wrote a message of 28 lines which said: that would be good information on its status page, wouldn’t it? I don't understand. Which status page? ___ ietf-privacy mailing list

Re: [ietf-privacy] Status?

2014-05-06 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 08:52:57AM -0400, Avri Doria a...@acm.org wrote a message of 30 lines which said: Discussing them on this list might be an idea. Another reason why some tickets in http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/ppm-legacy-review/ appear to be inactive is that because work takes

Re: [ietf-privacy] Wiki for managing PPM reviews of existing RFCs

2014-03-24 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 10:49:10AM +0800, Jiankang Yao ya...@cnnic.cn wrote a message of 116 lines which said: since there are thousands of RFCs, IMHO, the work should be indexed by PROTOCOL not by RFC, since some protocols are specified in many RFCs (DNS...)

Re: [ietf-privacy] Opportunistic encryption and a need for a definition

2013-11-19 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:39:00AM +0100, Eliot Lear l...@cisco.com wrote a message of 55 lines which said: in fact there are several different forms. I find three: 1) Encryption without a peer-specific arrangement. This is the meaning used in RFC 4322. Can be safe. 2) Encryption without

Re: [ietf-privacy] Opportunistic encryption and a need for a definition

2013-11-19 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 11:24:50AM +0100, Eliot Lear l...@cisco.com wrote a message of 20 lines which said: OE may have other very valid uses The problem is not with the concept, it is with the words. opportunistic encryption is used in many places but poorly defined and many fights erupt

Re: Montevideo statement

2013-10-07 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 01:34:58AM +0300, IETF Chair ch...@ietf.org wrote a message of 10 lines which said: I wanted to send a link to a statement that Russ and I signed as a part of a meeting that we held last week with the leaders of other Internet organisations.

Re: Bruce Schneier's Proposal to dedicate November meeting to saving the Internet from the NSA

2013-09-06 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Sep 06, 2013 at 08:20:17AM -0700, Dave Crocker d...@dcrocker.net wrote a message of 21 lines which said: We currently do not have a concise catalog the basic 'privacy' threats and their typical mitigations, appropriate for concern with IETF protocols. What about RFC 6973?

Re: Deployment of standards compliant nameservers

2013-05-21 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:26:39AM +1000, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote a message of 52 lines which said: I'm not sure what the solution should be but regular audits of delegated nameservers by infrastructure operator and removal of delegations after a grace period Let's not reinvent

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-appsawg-webfinger-10.txt (WebFinger) to Proposed Standard

2013-03-18 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 12:24:24PM -0800, The IESG iesg-secret...@ietf.org wrote a message of 33 lines which said: - 'WebFinger' draft-ietf-appsawg-webfinger-10.txt as Proposed Standard This is a very important protocol (we need a standard way to get information about people and other

Re: back by popular demand - a DNS calculator

2013-02-15 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 03:02:48PM -0800, Joe Touch to...@isi.edu wrote a message of 16 lines which said: By popular request, I've restored the DNS calculator function as an operational service. Why no delegation from postel.org? It is not really DNS if you have to use an explicit name

NASA just bought IRTF

2012-11-13 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
http://anewdomain.net/2012/11/10/nasa-dtn-protocol-bp-protocol-vint-cerf-interplanetary-internet-how-it-works-what-legos-have-to-to-with-it/# According to NASA's Delay-Tolerant Networking Research Group (DTNRG), the DTN protocol is under active development.

Stable URL of IESG statements (Was: IESG Statement on Ethertypes

2012-10-26 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:34:41AM -0700, IESG Secretary iesg-secret...@ietf.org wrote a message of 28 lines which said: The IEEE Registration Authority (IEEE RA) assigns Ethertypes I suggest it would be a good idea to have the stable URL of the statement

Re: REMINDER: Call for Comment on 'Affirmation of the Modern Paradigm for Standards'

2012-10-24 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 07:09:22AM -0700, IAB Chair iab-ch...@iab.org wrote a message of 155 lines which said: This is an IETF-wide Call for Comment on 'Affirmation of the Modern Paradigm for Standards'. What's the point of this Call for Comment? Was there any chance that the text could be

Re: WG Action: Conclusion of Address Resolution for Massive numbers of hosts in the Data center (armd)

2012-10-24 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:32:52AM -0700, IESG Secretary iesg-secret...@ietf.org wrote a message of 7 lines which said: The Address Resolution for Massive numbers of hosts in the Data center (armd) working group in the Operations and Management Area has concluded. Its charter is far from

Re: REMINDER: Call for Comment on 'Affirmation of the Modern Paradigm for Standards'

2012-10-24 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 09:18:38AM -0400, Russ Housley hous...@vigilsec.com wrote a message of 27 lines which said: The document captures the affirmation that took place on 29 August 2012. The document needs to contain the words that were affirmed. Any changes are a future activity, not

Re: Call for Comment: draft-iab-modern-paradigm-01.txt (Affirmation of the Modern Paradigm for Standards) to Informational RFC

2012-10-01 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Oct 01, 2012 at 08:01:54AM -0700, IAB Chair iab-ch...@iab.org wrote a message of 157 lines which said: This is an IETF-wide Call for Comment on 'Affirmation of the Modern Paradigm for Standards'. As mentioned by others, it is quite late since the text is already signed. Also,

Re: Leading Global Standards Organizations Endorse 'OpenStand' Principles that Drive Innovation and Borderless Commerce

2012-09-30 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:06:39AM +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer bortzme...@nic.fr wrote a message of 31 lines which said: Unfortunately, the actual text is very short on this matter (Standards specifications are made accessible to all for implementation and deployment) and does not mention

Re: Leading Global Standards Organizations Endorse 'OpenStand' Principles that Drive Innovation and Borderless Commerce

2012-08-29 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
[I was on disconnected holidays during the Last Call, sorry.] On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 12:05:30AM -0400, IETF Chair ch...@ietf.org wrote a message of 119 lines which said: The leaders of the IEEE Standards Association, the IAB, the IETF, the Internet Society, and the W3C signed a statement

Re: Leading Global Standards Organizations Endorse 'OpenStand' Principles that Drive Innovation and Borderless Commerce

2012-08-29 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 12:05:30AM -0400, IETF Chair ch...@ietf.org wrote a message of 119 lines which said: You can learn more about these principles at www.open-stand.org. The link Français for the translation of the principles in French yields a 404... May be it was written by

Re: IAB IPv6 privacy survey posted, response requested

2012-07-24 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 09:24:56AM -0700, IAB Chair iab-ch...@iab.org wrote a message of 95 lines which said: those familiar with OS IPv6 implementations are asked to complete a short survey http://www.iab.org/wp-content/IAB-uploads/2012/07/IPv6-Privacy-Survey.doc Which RFC (or other open

AFNIC's Technology Backdrop Survey (2nd edition): your input highly appreciated

2012-05-29 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
[It is not *directly* related to IETF work but I assume that the goal is shared by many people here: try to find about the future of the Internet. Do note that most questions about what you *wish* will happen but about what you *think* will happen.] To that end, with the help of its Scientific

Long discussion about IETF on the Internet Governance Caucus mailing list

2012-05-28 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
I believe it is relevant here since IETF is currently being discussed in depth on the Internet Governance Caucus mailing list (one of the biggest forums of the civil society about Internet governance). The thread is long and, for those who are not subscribed, can be found here on the Web:

Re: Long discussion about IETF on the Internet Governance Caucus mailing list

2012-05-28 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 08:51:46AM -0700, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote a message of 20 lines which said: Who are these people? -T They may ask the same thing about you :-)

Re: Long discussion about IETF on the Internet Governance Caucus mailing list

2012-05-28 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 04:19:28PM -, John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote a message of 8 lines which said: Based on what I've seem on the IGF list, people with an extraordinary amount of free time. In some cases (RFC 2119 terms, ALL CAPS vs lower case), IETFers have some free time, too...

Re: Long discussion about IETF on the Internet Governance Caucus mailing list

2012-05-28 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 05:20:10PM +0100, Brian E Carpenter brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com wrote a message of 32 lines which said: So far, fortunately, the Internet Governance Forum Hold on, the Internet Governance Caucus I was talking about (a civil society loosely connected group) is not the

Re: RFC 2119 terms, ALL CAPS vs lower case

2012-05-20 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:06:25AM -0400, Simon Perreault simon.perrea...@viagenie.ca wrote a message of 12 lines which said: One dreams of a period in which precision and elegance were not mutually exclusive properties. You mean when French was the dominant language? Nice troll. Let me

Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech industry ? The Register

2012-04-30 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 09:35:03AM +0100, Brian E Carpenter brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com wrote a message of 9 lines which said: Since the topic was raised here: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/04/26/girls_in_ict_day/ So, IETF folklore never scares men? Good. I also note that the

Re: 'Geek' image scares women away from tech industry ? The Register

2012-04-30 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 10:39:56AM +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer bortzme...@nic.fr wrote a message of 13 lines which said: I also note that the prominent women from the technology industry invited by the IUT s/IUT/ITU/ of course.

Re: provisioning software, was DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with

2012-03-09 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 05:21:40PM -0500, John R. Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote a message of 22 lines which said: Could you give some concrete examples of DNS provisioning systems that let you enter arbitrary RRs? I've never seen one in the wild, other than the one I wrote for myself. My

Re: provisioning software, was DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with

2012-03-09 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 01:10:24PM +1100, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote a message of 45 lines which said: Randy claimed that presentation formats were not standardised. They are. Randy and others claimed that the presentation formats were owned by BIND and they are not. A better

Re: IAB statement: The interpretation of rules in the ICANN gTLD Applicant Guidebook

2012-02-09 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 02:03:31PM -0800, IAB Chair iab-ch...@iab.org wrote a message of 116 lines which said: The IAB has issued a statement entitled The interpretation of rules in the ICANN gTLD Applicant Guidebook. This is a very bad statement. When work started on document

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-rtr-19.txt (The RPKI/Router Protocol) to Proposed Standard

2011-12-21 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 08:01:49AM -0500, Russ Housley hous...@vigilsec.com wrote a message of 22 lines which said: Since all of the objects that are transferred over this protocol are digitally signed, Over RTR? It is not mentioned in the I-D, quite the contrary. I think the Security

Re: RFC 6302: Internet-Facing Server Logging: No Word about Privacy?

2011-10-11 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 04:42:17PM +0300, Hannes Tschofenig hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net wrote a message of 58 lines which said: it is quite likely that they also need to be told something about privacy. For me, the most important mention of privacy is: It is RECOMMENDED as best current

Re: Questionnaire to survey opinion concerning a possible redefinition of UTC

2011-08-26 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 12:24:01PM +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer bortzme...@nic.fr wrote a message of 59 lines which said: Since several RFCs rely on UTC and leap seconds (3339, 4765, 5905, etc), this questionnaire may be of interest for some persons [the Web page mentions two articles, if you

Questionnaire to survey opinion concerning a possible redefinition of UTC

2011-08-25 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
Since several RFCs rely on UTC and leap seconds (3339, 4765, 5905, etc), this questionnaire may be of interest for some persons [the Web page mentions two articles, if you are in a hurry, the first one is the PRO and the second one the CON]. One more week to comment.

Re: DKIM Signatures now being applied to IETF Email

2011-07-27 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:17:48AM -0700, Glen g...@amsl.com wrote a message of 23 lines which said: I am very pleased to report that the IETF is now applying DKIM signatures to all outgoing list email from mailman. What about a RFC 5617 published signing practice?

Re: New Non-WG Mailing List: fun -- FUture home Networking (FUN)

2011-06-06 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 09:54:56AM -0700, IETF Secretariat ietf-secretar...@ietf.org wrote a message of 15 lines which said: Purpose: Mailing list for proposed working group on FUture home Networking (FUN) And nothing more (same thing on the Web site). Could we ask for a little bit more

Re: How to pay $47 for a copy of RFC 793

2011-05-11 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 04:47:23PM +0200, Harald Alvestrand har...@alvestrand.no wrote a message of 30 lines which said: In the case of Google Scholar, I found the guidelines to be a bit intimidating: http://scholar.google.com/intl/en/scholar/inclusion.html But the reality is far from

Re: Where to find IETF recommendations?

2011-03-02 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 09:34:19AM -0800, Bob Braden bra...@isi.edu wrote a message of 29 lines which said: A few years ago some of us tried to interest the IETF in producing road maps for all the major protocols/protocol families. As a worked example, we produced a roadmap for TCP. It

Re: Where to find IETF recommendations?

2011-03-02 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 02:34:53PM +0100, Shane Kerr sh...@isc.org wrote a message of 50 lines which said: In my mind a road map tells you where something is going: May be in english :-) but in IETFspeak, roadmap has already been used several times for list of relevant RFC on a given

Re: Clarification for Copyright to referred material in IETF draft

2010-12-14 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 11:53:33AM +0100, Simon Josefsson si...@josefsson.org wrote a message of 20 lines which said: External references always comes with the price of creating obsolete or incorrect links. Some organisations, like the RFC Editor, provide stable references to things that

Re: [79all] IETF Badge

2010-11-11 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 07:09:55PM -0500, Phillip Hallam-Baker hal...@gmail.com wrote a message of 117 lines which said: The average monthly wage in China is $153. So quite a few people are carrying equipment that costs several times what some of the hotel staff earn in a year. Which

Re: Last Call: draft-cheshire-dnsext-multicastdns-12.txt (Multicast DNS) to Proposed Standard

2010-10-27 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 07:58:25AM -0700, The IESG iesg-secret...@ietf.org wrote a message of 31 lines which said: The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'Multicast DNS' draft-cheshire-dnsext-multicastdns-12.txt as a Proposed

Re: IDNA 2008 Question Re: Confusable Characters In Domain Names

2010-10-22 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:33:14AM +0100, john daw taliskerm...@hotmail.co.uk wrote a message of 169 lines which said: what impact the IDNA 2008 policy will have It's actually IDNA 2010 since the RFC were all issued this year. ondomain name registrant's who have a domain that does not

MSIG proposal (on-the-fly sigs for ordinary records) Was: DNSSEC is hard to get right

2010-09-07 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 02:55:08PM +0800, Jiankang YAO ya...@cnnic.cn wrote a message of 11 lines which said: I propose a lightweight DNSSEC. http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-yao-dnsext-msig-00.txt I've just read the draft and I'm not sure of the problem it intends to solve. There are two

DNSSEC is hard to get right

2010-08-31 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
% check-sig iab.org Name iab.org has an expired signature (20100829223019) :-( ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: New Non-WG Mailing List: oam

2010-08-23 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 02:41:54PM -0700, IESG Secretary iesg-secret...@ietf.org wrote a message of 11 lines which said: A new IETF non-working group email list has been created. List address: o...@ietf.org Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/oam/ To subscribe:

Re: Make the Internet uncensorable to intermediate nodes

2010-03-22 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 09:56:15PM -0400, Dave Aronson ietf2d...@davearonson.com wrote a message of 29 lines which said: Stephane didn't call the original poster's idea stupid, only the example that the OP used of a censor to route around. More interesting (it can even be regarded as an

Re: IPV6

2010-03-19 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 02:44:07PM +0530, piyush dwivedi piyus...@yahoo.co.in wrote a message of 47 lines which said: I am doing study on IPv6, i need guidance on how i could join groups already working on Drafts. As far as standardisation is concerned, IPv6 is almost over. The working

Re: Make the Internet uncensorable to intermediate nodes

2010-03-19 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 09:59:44PM +0800, MtFBwU may.4th...@gmail.com wrote a message of 232 lines which said: What if we break our data to many parts first, the transfer the debris nobody will notice, finally assemble them back to the original in the other end? It is used in several

Re: What day is 2010-01-02

2010-03-13 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 05:13:41PM +0100, Arnt Gulbrandsen a...@gulbrandsen.priv.no wrote a message of 17 lines which said: Those are RFC 3339 dates. It took thirteen messages for someone to notice that there is an IETF standard for dates and that the IETF uses it on its own Web pages...

Re: What day is 2010-01-02

2010-03-13 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 10:06:46AM -0500, Marshall Eubanks t...@americafree.tv wrote a message of 61 lines which said: This follows an ISO standard, ISO 8601, Sections 5.5 of RFC 3339 explain very well why you should not use ISO 8601 but its subset of RFC 3339. and also happens to sort

Re: Appeal to the IESG concerning the approbation of the IDNA2008 document set.

2010-03-11 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 03:42:12PM -0800, Dave CROCKER d...@dcrocker.net wrote a message of 52 lines which said: The prudent action is to return it to the appellant, stating that it cannot be processed until it has been made clear and concise. I approve and I also believe that, giving the

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-dnsext-dnssec-alg-allocation (Cryptographic Algorithm Identifier Allocation for DNSSEC) to Proposed Standard

2010-02-24 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:59:13AM -0800, The IESG iesg-secret...@ietf.org wrote a message of 23 lines which said: The IESG has received a request from the DNS Extensions WG (dnsext) to consider the following document: - 'Cryptographic Algorithm Identifier Allocation for DNSSEC '

Best way to document a packet protocol?

2010-01-12 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
Some IETFers already use the excellent QA site StackOverflow http://stackoverflow.com/. Unlike your typical Web forum, StackOverflow ranks the answers by the votes received so the best answers tend to be at the top. People gain reputation by the votes they receive so you can sort out the good

Re: Most bogus news story of the week

2009-12-18 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 10:39:03AM -0500, Richard L. Barnes rbar...@bbn.com wrote a message of 74 lines which said: Is this disingenuous or has the ITU really not heard of netflow? This is the IETF, use RFC 5101 instead :-) ___ Ietf mailing list

Re: Most bogus news story of the week

2009-12-18 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 07:24:43AM -0800, Ole Jacobsen o...@cisco.com wrote a message of 34 lines which said: Chinese proposal to meter Internet traffic http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/8417680.stm In France (translated by me):

Re: Last Call: draft-cheshire-dnsext-multicastdns (Multicast DNS) to Informational RFC

2009-11-25 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 06:07:17AM -0800, The IESG iesg-secret...@ietf.org wrote a message of 23 lines which said: - 'Multicast DNS ' draft-cheshire-dnsext-multicastdns-08.txt as an Informational RFC I do not think that the publication of this document as it is would be a good idea. The

Re: Logging the source port?

2009-11-15 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:49:36AM +0100, Arnt Gulbrandsen a...@gulbrandsen.priv.no wrote a message of 11 lines which said: Therefore, I think it's safer to say that it's the NAT operator's responsibility to log enough. Umpteen million web sites will continue to use apache's common log

Re: Logging the source port?

2009-11-15 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 02:59:23PM +0900, Joel Jaeggli joe...@bogus.com wrote a message of 25 lines which said: common log format doesn't capture that information... http://onlamp.com/pub/a/apache/2004/04/22/blackbox_logs.html?page=3 More recent versions of Apache do (thanks to Tony Finch

Logging the source port?

2009-11-12 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
At the Transport Area meeting, Alain Durand, presenting draft-ford-shared-addressing-issues mentioned that we may well have now to always log the source port of a TCP request, not only the source IP address (which may well be shared), if we want traceability. Does anyone know if it is possible

Re: Logging the source port?

2009-11-12 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 02:59:23PM +0900, Joel Jaeggli joe...@bogus.com wrote a message of 25 lines which said: common log format doesn't capture that information... No, but it seems to be in the good old CGI variables, as REMOTE_PORT. If you have a Web application, not just static Web

Re: IETF 79 Announcement

2009-11-10 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 04:39:25PM +0900, Stephane Bortzmeyer bortzmeyer+i...@nic.fr wrote a message of 13 lines which said: So, in the end, what was signed with the hotel, regarding the ability of the hotel to cancel the meeting if one IETF participant says something that could

Re: IETF 79 Announcement

2009-11-09 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 02:24:21AM -0500, Ray Pelletier rpellet...@isoc.org wrote a message of 119 lines which said: The meeting will be held at the Shangri-La Beijing Hotel. So, in the end, what was signed with the hotel, regarding the ability of the hotel to cancel the meeting if one IETF

Re: IDNAbis spec

2009-11-03 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 09:41:38PM +, Husni Al-Muhtaseb muhta...@kfupm.edu.sa wrote a message of 1653 lines which said: I have found that there were tremendous efforts behind the work that will lead soon to the use of Domain names in different languages. It is already possible to use

Re: Some more background on the RFID experiment in Hiroshima

2009-09-14 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:05:25AM -0700, Ole Jacobsen o...@cisco.com wrote a message of 53 lines which said: I am sure the organizers never expected this amount of feedback either, They don't know the IETF, then :-) They can expect a lot of feedback on sushi and cookies, too.

Re: Last Call: draft-carpenter-renum-needs-work (Renumbering still needs work) to Informational RFC

2009-09-10 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 06:12:20AM -0700, The IESG iesg-secret...@ietf.org wrote a message of 23 lines which said: The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'Renumbering still needs work '

Re: Important Information about IETF 76 Meeting Registration

2009-08-31 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:06:31AM +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer bortzme...@nic.fr wrote a message of 17 lines which said: Any statement somewhere explaining what will be done with the data? Since you talk about electronic blue sheets, I assume there will be many sensors, at least one per room

Re: Important Information about IETF 76 Meeting Registration

2009-08-24 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 01:56:17PM -0700, Alexa Morris amor...@amsl.com wrote a message of 135 lines which said: 2) RFID Tagging Experiment at IETF 76 ... While you will be given the option to opt out of this experiment when you register for the meeting, we sincerely hope you will

Re: DNS Interception

2009-07-17 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:29:40AM -0700, SM s...@resistor.net wrote a message of 143 lines which said: At the end of the day, whether we like it or not, there will be DNS interception. The IETF can provide input for decision makers, be it ISPs or regulatory bodies, by documenting the

Re: DNS over SCTP (was: Re: [Asrg] DNS-based Email Sender Authentication Mechanisms: a Critical Review

2009-05-28 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 03:04:19PM +0200, Alessandro Vesely ves...@tana.it wrote a message of 30 lines which said: I thought TCP was the default when the UDP message size is not enough. Well, in theory, it should be EDNS0 (standardized in the previous century) but, in practice, it has

Re: DNS over SCTP

2009-05-28 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 04:16:31PM +0200, Alessandro Vesely ves...@tana.it wrote a message of 14 lines which said: The discussion was about how to get rid of the threats illustrated, e.g., in Kaminsky, D.: It?s the end of the cache as we know it. I know about Kaminsky bug, the WG DNS

Re: Last Call: draft-dusseault-impl-reports (Guidance on Interoperation and Implementation Reports) to BCP

2009-05-26 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:09:01AM -0700, The IESG iesg-secret...@ietf.org wrote a message of 23 lines which said: The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'Guidance on Interoperation and Implementation Reports '

Re: Last Call: draft-dusseault-impl-reports (Guidance on Interoperation and Implementation Reports) to BCP

2009-05-26 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 09:50:52AM -0700, Lisa Dusseault lisa.dussea...@gmail.com wrote a message of 43 lines which said: Do you have any suggestions for criteria that could be broadly applicable and useful? Following Paul Hoffman, you could put in the I-D something like: All known (by

Re: resignation business

2009-04-21 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 05:17:31PM +0200, Francis Dupont francis.dup...@fdupont.fr wrote a message of 28 lines which said: this was and is the rule but because of typewriters the rule was suspended during the 20th century. Now typewriters are in museums and current century is 21th. BTW

Re: The internet architecture

2008-12-08 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 09:33:36PM +0900, Masataka Ohta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 16 lines which said: The problem to represent a host with raw addresses is that they can't represent a host with multiple addresses, OK supporting of which is useful and often required, for

Re: The internet architecture

2008-12-08 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 08:03:45AM +0100, Marc Manthey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 87 lines which said: On Linux (at least on Debian), you need the mDNSResponder package provided by Apple on the Bonjour downloads page. Unfortunately, Avahi doesn't yet implement all of the API

Re: The internet architecture

2008-12-08 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 12:46:58PM -0500, Andrew Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 39 lines which said: It seems to me true, from experience and from anecdote, that DNS out at endpoints has all manner of failure modes that have little to do with the protocol and a lot to do with

Re: The internet architecture

2008-12-08 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 11:25:02AM +0100, Marc Manthey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 54 lines which said: And it is a proprietary protocol, anyway. who told you that ? Please tell me what open standard (IETF, ITU, what you want) defines it.

Re: The internet architecture

2008-12-08 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 09:06:54PM +0900, Masataka Ohta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 25 lines which said: If an SMTP or DNS server has multiple addresses, clients are required, practically (many servers are behind firewalls) or, for DNS, officially by RFC1035, to try all the IP

Re: DNS query reliability (was Re: The internet architecture)

2008-12-08 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 06:23:02AM -0800, Dave CROCKER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 37 lines which said: One could imagine producing a BCP about common DNS implementation and operation errors or, more positively, recommendations for implementation and operation. One could

Re: The internet architecture

2008-12-05 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 04:29:51PM -0500, Keith Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 28 lines which said: It's a question of whether increasing reliance on DNS by trying to get apps and other things to use DNS names exclusively, makes those apps and other things less reliable. For a

Re: The internet architecture

2008-12-05 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 04:51:20PM -0500, Keith Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 40 lines which said: Not a week goes by when I'm not asked to figure out why people can't get to a web server or why email isn't working. In about 70% of the web server cases and 30% of the email

Re: The internet architecture

2008-11-30 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 11:26:54PM -0500, Keith Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 27 lines which said: If by hostname the authors mean DNS names, I would personally make a difference between the concept of a domain name and the protocol used to resolve them (today, mostly DNS).

Re: The internet architecture

2008-11-29 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 08:44:31AM -0800, Hallam-Baker, Phillip [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 431 lines which said: In fact it would be best for the O/S to provide an API which hides the details of the IP address from the application entirely in the same way that the ethernet MAC

Re: Proposed DNSSEC Plenary Experiment for IETF 74

2008-11-28 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 07:49:13PM +, Matthew Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 13 lines which said: After all the years of FUD surrounding DNSSEC deployment, I feel quite strongly that having the IETF do as you suggested and then be able to point to 'no discernible impact' on

Re: Proposed DNSSEC Plenary Experiment for IETF 74

2008-11-28 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 03:52:50PM -0500, Steve Crocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 161 lines which said: the intent is to simply include the DNSSEC-compliant recursive resolver in the standard DHCP configuration during the plenary. That is, during the plenary, DHCP responses will

Re: Last Call: draft-irtf-asrg-dnsbl (DNS Blacklists and Whitelists)

2008-11-07 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 02:18:21PM -, John Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 55 lines which said: All of these questions have come up before on the various lists where this draft was developed, but I suppose it's worth going through That's the point of an IETF-Wide Last Call.

Re: Last Call: draft-irtf-asrg-dnsbl (DNS Blacklists and Whitelists)

2008-11-07 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 10:59:46AM -0800, The IESG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 26 lines which said: - 'DNS Blacklists and Whitelists ' draft-irtf-asrg-dnsbl-07.txt as a Proposed Standard Well, it is certainly very important that the DNSxL are documented, given their widespread

Re: Publication track for IBE documents (Was Second Last Call...)

2008-10-23 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 04:51:23PM +0200, Harald Alvestrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 23 lines which said: (That said, the RFC Editor's work on these will cost the IETF a known amount of dollars. Known by who? How an ordinary IETF participant could find out The Real True Cost of

The cost of a RFC (Was: Publication track for IBE documents (Was Second Last Call...)

2008-10-23 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:40:26AM +0200, Harald Alvestrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 21 lines which said: IETF homepage - IASA - Budget and Finance - Budget - 2008 I prefer RFC 3986 :-) http://iaoc.ietf.org/documents/2008_Budget_Final.pdf Expenses: RFC Editor/Edit Svcs: 737.800

Re: NTIA request for feedback on DNSSEC deployment at the root zone

2008-10-10 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 12:39:37AM -0500, Thierry Moreau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 75 lines which said: In other words, the IETF has not been concerned (beyond relatively minor activity in dnsop wg) with the ICANN mission, which is multi-faceted. Do not forget the IANA activity

Re: ROHC v1 and its problems

2008-09-22 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 04:28:43PM +0530, Karthik Balaguru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 44 lines which said: What are the major and minor problems with ROHC v1 ? Can anyone give me a link that explains the problems with ROHC v1 ? [Warning: I'm not an expert in ROHC.] May be

Re: Call for review of proposed IESG Statement on Examples

2008-09-19 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 10:34:46AM +0200, Magnus Westerlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 122 lines which said: I note with even more interest that reservation of codepoints for example or other documentation purposes would violate existing IESG statements and rules about

Re: Call for review of proposed IESG Statement on Examples

2008-09-19 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 01:10:38PM +0200, Magnus Westerlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 50 lines which said: RFC 5236, section 3.3 (which mentions scarcity) Do you mean another RFC, Yes, that was RFC 5226, sorry. ___ Ietf mailing list

Re: IETF copying conditions

2008-09-19 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 10:35:20PM -0400, Joe Abley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 31 lines which said: I think the *whole point* of a standard is to restrict how things are done, in order to promote interoperability. Complaining about such restrictions makes no sense to me if interop

Re: IETF copying conditions

2008-09-19 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 02:57:32PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 36 lines which said: What law would prevent me from publishing the following GW-SMTP document? snip- Gee-Whizz SMTP is a derivative of IETF. In RFC 2821 replace all occurences of

IETF.org does its part on internationalization

2008-09-07 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 06:47:42PM +, linuxa linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 24 lines which said: .Due to the ASCII character encoding being the core/monopoly This is a bad start: non-ASCII characters are used on the Internet for many years. There is certainly an ASCII

Re: Publishing RFCs in PDF Formal

2008-08-28 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 04:04:02PM -0700, SM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 37 lines which said: Anyone can write tools without undue cost to read, parse, search and produce documents in that format. Read, search and produce, OK. Parse, no, unless you're joking. Parsing RFCs is

Re: Simpler than draft-rfc-image-files-00.txt

2008-08-28 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 07:23:06PM -0400, John C Klensin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 49 lines which said: one would still have the image problem (which is not really about pictures or decoration but about being able to express flows, relationships, and similar diagrams in a clear

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