Re: A nuance of interoperability reports

2012-02-23 Thread Hector
Martin Rex wrote: Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: From: Richard Barnes [mailto:rbar...@bbn.com] Seems like it depends on your definitions of abusive and legitimate. Do you have an example? For a contrived example, let's say a registered HTTP header field that's only ever found to be present in

Re: A nuance of interoperability reports

2012-02-23 Thread Suzanne Woolf
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 02:56:41PM -0800, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: We like to see interoperability reports contain information about features of a protocol that are used vs. unused, so that if and when the protocol seeks advancement along the standards track, we can decide whether we want to

RE: A nuance of interoperability reports

2012-02-22 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
-Original Message- From: Richard Barnes [mailto:rbar...@bbn.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 5:45 PM To: Murray S. Kucherawy Cc: ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: A nuance of interoperability reports Seems like it depends on your definitions of abusive and legitimate. Do you have

Re: A nuance of interoperability reports

2012-02-22 Thread Randy Bush
i think what richard was trying to hint is that the same tool can be used for both good and bad. and we can't predict that, just because it has been used for bad yesteday, it will not be used for good in the rosy future. randy ___ Ietf mailing list

Re: A nuance of interoperability reports

2012-02-22 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, February 22, 2012 08:32:05 PM Randy Bush wrote: i think what richard was trying to hint is that the same tool can be used for both good and bad. and we can't predict that, just because it has been used for bad yesteday, it will not be used for good in the rosy future. Yes, but

Re: A nuance of interoperability reports

2012-02-22 Thread Randy Bush
i think what richard was trying to hint is that the same tool can be used for both good and bad. and we can't predict that, just because it has been used for bad yesteday, it will not be used for good in the rosy future. Yes, but the same argument can be made about unused features. Just

Re: A nuance of interoperability reports

2012-02-22 Thread Martin Rex
Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: From: Richard Barnes [mailto:rbar...@bbn.com] Seems like it depends on your definitions of abusive and legitimate. Do you have an example? For a contrived example, let's say a registered HTTP header field that's only ever found to be present in web pages

A nuance of interoperability reports

2012-02-21 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
We like to see interoperability reports contain information about features of a protocol that are used vs. unused, so that if and when the protocol seeks advancement along the standards track, we can decide whether we want to keep it in the revision. Should we consider a protocol feature only

Re: A nuance of interoperability reports

2012-02-21 Thread Richard Barnes
Seems like it depends on your definitions of abusive and legitimate. Do you have an example? On Feb 21, 2012, at 5:56 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: We like to see interoperability reports contain information about features of a protocol that are used vs. unused, so that if and when the