[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT] China blocks FB and Twitter

2009-07-13 Thread Santhosh സന്തോഷ് VS
This is what I like in Free Software Movement Unity and adoration. I only point about the relation with IT and was not to hurt any. Yes I was talking about the threads existen...@sasi sir, sorry I know what you are contributing to the society and i was just shocked to see your words questioning the

[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT] China blocks FB and Twitter

2009-07-13 Thread V. Sasi Kumar
On Sun, 2009-07-12 at 23:55 -0700, Visakh wrote: > @ Sasi sir: When talking about someone feeling hurt, I don't think he > was referring to your post. Your messages are always enlightening and > puts things in a clear perspective. Rather, I think he was talking > about posts saying that this thre

[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT] China blocks FB and Twitter

2009-07-12 Thread V. Sasi Kumar
On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 09:45 +0530, Santhosh സന്തോഷ് VS wrote: > " just take the example of mentally ill people in our > country."!! > > Very funny to notice how a discussion was diverted. The thread starter > just want to express his feeling against some IT related issue. And I > don't know why i

[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT] China blocks FB and Twitter

2009-07-12 Thread Santhosh സന്തോഷ് VS
, I am free to join any >> other platforms where I can participate , my request to other list members >> is that please do consider that this list is for OpenSource and let us stick >> to it >> thanks >> Joseph John >> >> >> >> --- On Su

[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT] China blocks FB and Twitter

2009-07-12 Thread Mahesh Mohan
d let us stick to it > thanks > Joseph John > > > > --- On Sun, 12/7/09, Jikku Jose wrote: > > > From: Jikku Jose > > Subject: [fsug-tvm] Re: [OT] China blocks FB and Twitter > > To: ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com > > Date: Sunday, 12 July, 2009,

[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT] China blocks FB and Twitter

2009-07-12 Thread John Joseph
rom: Jikku Jose > Subject: [fsug-tvm] Re: [OT] China blocks FB and Twitter > To: ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com > Date: Sunday, 12 July, 2009, 2:21 PM > Yes there are more burning issues in > every place than blocking of a couple of sites. But I think > this should be posted here

[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT] China blocks FB and Twitter

2009-07-12 Thread Visakh
Hi, I would like to comment on Sebin's opinion (technical side, not political): Point 1: Circumvention tools: Though I know a few circumvention and data analysis tools, I didn't know that there was a guide for it. Thank you very much for the link! :D Point 3: Blocking Twitter: China is ex

[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT] China blocks FB and Twitter

2009-07-12 Thread Jikku Jose
I am extremely sorry .. for using the word freaking !! .. I really didn't mean it, I was on the pretext of its meaning to be something on the lines of 'scary' rather than what you pointed out [somehow I used that word to represent horror movies for years .. and never actually checked the me

[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT] China blocks FB and Twitter

2009-07-12 Thread Sebin Jacob
Reply Inline: On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Jikku Jose wrote: > I never understood this *usual freaking statement* "Google is soon turning > another monopolistic mega corporate". Jikku, please mind your words. This is a public forum. If you use such words, I can react in the same fashion. T

[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT] China blocks FB and Twitter

2009-07-12 Thread V. Sasi Kumar
I may also point out that RMS himself keeps these matters separate from Free Software issues. All of us know (I hope so) that he is a person who reacts to all kinds of oppression and curtailment of freedoms. He has reacted to issues including National Identity Cards (what is being introduced here

[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT] China blocks FB and Twitter

2009-07-12 Thread Jikku Jose
I never understood this usual freaking statement "Google is soon turning another monopolistic mega corporate". And unlike anything ever in the business it is giving us choice, also no body is forcing anyone to choose their service. And it is perfectly possible to live without their services too. Th

[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT] China blocks FB and Twitter

2009-07-12 Thread Sebin Jacob
I was really reluctant in participating on this debate, not because the topic does not interest me, but because I thought this is not the venue for the same. But as this thread grows to be a hot discussion topic, I changed my mind, and am posting my take on it. 1. FLOSS manuals are providing descr

[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT] China blocks FB and Twitter

2009-07-12 Thread Visakh
I have to agree with what Sasi sir says. He highlighted the point that I was also trying to make. Ban of FB and twitter in China is the least of the problems there. And it is not as if we don't have enough problems here. If we start reacting to every one of those, we will soon loose sight of our

[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT] China blocks FB and Twitter

2009-07-12 Thread Jikku Jose
Yes there are more burning issues in every place than blocking of a couple of sites. But I think this should be posted here in this forum for the following reasons: - This issue is in fact very much related to the the the philosophy of open source software. - This is affecting a very large populat

[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT] China blocks FB and Twitter

2009-07-12 Thread Mahesh Mohan
Sasi sir is right. = Q: How many Bell Labs Vice Presidents does it take to change a light bulb? A: That's proprietary information. Answer available from AT&T on payment of license fee (binary only)! http://maheshmohan.wordpress.com മഹേഷ് മോഹന്‍ എം.യു

[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT] China blocks FB and Twitter

2009-07-12 Thread V. Sasi Kumar
I think we are over-reacting to what the Government of China has done. I don't mean that they can do such things. What I mean is that there are hundreds or possibly thousands of such issues, even more serious issues, in India and other parts of the world. If this mailing list starts discussing all

[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT] China blocks FB and Twitter

2009-07-11 Thread Aneesh A
Oh!! it is a very bad thing. all should have freedom to express. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ "Freedom is the only law". "Freedom Unplugged" http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ilug-tvm" group. To post to thi

[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT] China blocks FB and Twitter

2009-07-11 Thread Jikku Jose
Indeed, even a revolution can be triggered by it, if used properly. 2009/7/11 Visakh > > > On Jul 11, 11:34 am, Aneesh A wrote: > > ഇന്ത്യയെ പോലുള്ള രാജ്യത്ത് ഇതോന്നും നടക്കില്ല ( അതായന് അനാവശ്യ നിരോധനം) > > ഒരു സമയത്ത് അതും നടന്നു. > > And as for twitter, it is a powerful medium for those who

[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT] China blocks FB and Twitter

2009-07-11 Thread Jikku Jose
Yes, that is exactly why I wanted to start such a discussion. As it is a * must* that at least all the users in this small group be perfectly aware of such an issue. *Importance of protest:* Yes, there seems nothing that we can do rather than discussing. But perhaps this might motivate someone in

[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT] China blocks FB and Twitter

2009-07-10 Thread Aneesh A
ഇന്ത്യയെ പോലുള്ള രാജ്യത്ത് ഇതോന്നും നടക്കില്ല ( അതായന് അനാവശ്യ നിരോധനം) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ "Freedom is the only law". "Freedom Unplugged" http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ilug-tvm" group. To post

[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT] China blocks FB and Twitter

2009-07-10 Thread Santhosh സന്തോഷ് VS
By Protest I mean expressing and supporting those peoples feelings in Online forums/groups like this (stating the imp. of the thread) and if it comes to our country Protest on the Road !! ;) On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Aneesh A wrote: > Yes. santhosh is right. > > but how do we protest?? >

[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT] China blocks FB and Twitter

2009-07-10 Thread Aneesh A
Yes. santhosh is right. but how do we protest?? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ "Freedom is the only law". "Freedom Unplugged" http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ilug-tvm" group. To post to this group, send em

[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT] China blocks FB and Twitter

2009-07-10 Thread Santhosh സന്തോഷ് VS
Twitter, what hurt them that little bird ?? Yes, It is doesn't relates with Free Software movement. But it can be a topic concerning as a Linux user. Remember even blogger is blocked there. All sides of the software/IT field must protest against such violation of human rights on expression/communic

[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT] China blocks FB and Twitter

2009-07-10 Thread Aneesh A
Facebook and twitter are used for good purposes most of time. there are some things that are bad.. banning is not a solution. (In my college lab, gmail is banned. but we have enabled HTTPS in gmail and bypassed..) Does any country ban guns because it is used by terrorists?? porn sites, violenc

[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT] China blocks FB and Twitter

2009-07-10 Thread Jikku Jose
In my perspective it is the most important freedom of a person that is being breached in China !! And I think that the seriousness of the issue will not be concieved better than a genuine open source enthusiast. And also in my opinion such a discussion won't by any means be diluting the purpose of

[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT] China blocks FB and Twitter

2009-07-10 Thread Visakh
Hi, On Jul 10, 6:55 pm, Jikku Jose wrote: > But somehow I thought most of the users in the group would like to discuss > about this issue !! And as Mr. Santhosh mentioned this about freedom .. > which I think is the essence of open source ! Well, There is nothing we can do about it, is there?

[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT] China blocks FB and Twitter

2009-07-10 Thread Anoop Jacob Thomas
It is, but then that is the decision of a country. And I do protest that personally. And we can also protest on it in some way, an effective way. -- Anoop Jacob Thomas http://anoop.caremedia.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ "Freedom is the only law". "Freedom Unplugged

[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT] China blocks FB and Twitter

2009-07-10 Thread Jikku Jose
But somehow I thought most of the users in the group would like to discuss about this issue !! And as Mr. Santhosh mentioned this about freedom .. which I think is the essence of open source ! 2009/7/10 Anoop Jacob Thomas > As long as it is not something concerned with Free Software, it is off >

[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT] China blocks FB and Twitter

2009-07-10 Thread Anoop Jacob Thomas
As long as it is not something concerned with Free Software, it is off topic. -- Anoop Jacob Thomas http://anoop.caremedia.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ "Freedom is the only law". "Freedom Unplugged" http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are