Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-05 Thread PJ
Viksit Gaur wrote: Freed elicits, atleast in me, notions of a bunch of previously subjugated people now unshackled by something. Not necessarily with respect to FOSS. It could be a revolt, a coup de etat or whatever. Freed 2007 would make a great libertarian conference, going

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-05 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 05-May-07, at 11:31 AM, PJ wrote: Anyway, attend the meetings if you have an interest in the reasoning behind ilugd decisions - it's open to all GNU/Linux users, we welcome inputs, and all proposals can be questioned/modified etc. what about those who object to the name GNU/Linux?

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-05 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
Anyway, attend the meetings if you have an interest in the reasoning behind ilugd decisions - it's open to all GNU/Linux users, we welcome inputs, and all proposals can be questioned/modified etc. I would attend it if it is possible. I realize I don't have the right to dispute decisions if I

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-05 Thread gora
Viksit Gaur wrote: Hullo, I'm trying to figure out what this name embodies. Freed elicits, atleast in me, notions of a bunch of previously subjugated people now unshackled by something. Not necessarily with respect to FOSS. It could be a revolt, a coup de etat or whatever. Freed 2007

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Minutes of the ILUG-Delhi meeting on Sun., 29th April

2007-05-05 Thread gora
On 01-May-07, at 10:08 PM, Raj Mathur wrote: [...] 1. E-zine: Atul Jha presented the latest version of the E-zine on the site http://ezine.linux-delhi.org. There is currently only one article available online, though apparently there are some eight original articles available with Atul. Many

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-05 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
Of course you have every right to discuss any decision on the mailing list, and even dispute it for that matter. However, I hope you realise that it is difficult to cater to every demand on this list. For example, it took me nearly two hours to prepare the minutes that you describe as too

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-05 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
Sudev Barar wrote: Yep, one of the LUGD-Bang guys. Howdy. Hey, Sudev. How are ya? ;) FREED : My take is that it can be one or the other. Domain availability was one not so smal consideration. One thing that escapes me. Do we absolutely need to have a separate domain for the event? A

Re: [ilugd] Opening up participation in ILUG-D decision making

2007-05-05 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Time and again, there have been expressions on this list that management decisions in ILUG-Delhi are taken behind closed doors. While I personally feel that ILUG-D is among the most open organisations that I have been a part of, and strongly resent such

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-05 Thread PJ
Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 05-May-07, at 11:31 AM, PJ wrote: Anyway, attend the meetings if you have an interest in the reasoning behind ilugd decisions - it's open to all GNU/Linux users, we welcome inputs, and all proposals can be questioned/modified etc.

Re: [ilugd] Opening up participation in ILUG-D decision making

2007-05-05 Thread PJ
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Time and again, there have been expressions on this list that management decisions in ILUG-Delhi are taken behind closed doors. [snip] So, rather than griping about it, how about some concrete proposals to change this? Please follow up on the list with your

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-05 Thread PJ
Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Note that I am not saying that it is obligatory for anybody present to answer these queries. I am only saying that we are not rebuffed with a canned you should have been at the meeting answer. You're quite right. A canned response like that is

Re: [ilugd] Opening up participation in ILUG-D decision making

2007-05-05 Thread PJ
PJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How about someone just records the audio of meetings with their mp3 player ogg! I mean ogg player! Honest! [1] PJ [1] For those who are wondering: ogg (properly: ogg-vorbis) is like mp3, but patent-free. Not popular, but better there are very few hardware ogg

Re: [ilugd] Opening up participation in ILUG-D decision making

2007-05-05 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 05-May-07, at 3:34 PM, PJ wrote: How about someone just records the audio of meetings with their mp3 player (3000Rs for a 2GB mp3 player - or maybe do it with a cellphone or desktop/laptop instead) at an acceptable voice bit rate, and archives the audio online (eg ourmedia will let you

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-05 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 05-May-07, at 3:25 PM, PJ wrote: Good point Kenneth. I don't know if the (constitutional type) of rules of ILUGD say that ILUGD should be about Linux rather than GNU/Linux. I choose to use the label GNU/Linux (if I can remember to) because for me the concept of freedom embodied by

Re: [ilugd] Opening up participation in ILUG-D decision making

2007-05-05 Thread Raj Mathur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 05 May 2007 14:32, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: [snip] In this particular case though, the renaming of the event was a complete surprise. Nobody knew that such a requirement was there. Normally before such decisions, people did discuss

Re: [ilugd] Opening up participation in ILUG-D decision making

2007-05-05 Thread Raj Mathur
On Saturday 05 May 2007 15:34, PJ wrote: [snip] How about someone just records the audio of meetings with their mp3 player (3000Rs for a 2GB mp3 player - or maybe do it with a cellphone or desktop/laptop instead) at an acceptable voice bit rate, and archives the audio online (eg ourmedia

Re: [ilugd] Opening up participation in ILUG-D decision making

2007-05-05 Thread PJ
On Saturday 05 May 2007 15:34, PJ wrote: [snip] How about someone just records the audio of meetings with their mp3 [snip] Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh Puhleeze! I will not agree to that until someone volunteers to edit out the unparliamentary stuff, the discussions about

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-05 Thread PJ
I wrote: I'm interested in the free as in freedom part of what ILUGD is about. The impression I get is that ILUGD tends to be heavily focussed on the free as in freedom part. Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in which case you have to focus on FOSS - regardless of

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-05 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, Not sure if this is going off-topic. Anyways, my thoughts below: On 5/5/07, PJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me and some others regard the extra freedom of the BSD style licences as being analogous to the granting freedom to a plantation holder to own slaves, Isn't that cruel? The GPL, for

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-05 Thread Anant Narayanan
Well, in software, there are several known examples where Microsoft has taken BSD code, altered it, and tried to lock users in to their way of doing things so that they can exploit them forever after. To an extent they have succeeded more than failed. This is the reason why GPL is

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-05 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
Anant Narayanan wrote: Well, in software, there are several known examples where Microsoft has taken BSD code, altered it, and tried to lock users in to their way of doing things so that they can exploit them forever after. To an extent they have succeeded more than failed. This is the

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 06 May 2007 02:05:40 +0530, Sandip Bhattacharya said: Anant Narayanan wrote: Well, in software, there are several known examples where Microsoft has taken BSD code, altered it, and tried to lock users in to their way of doing things so that they can exploit them forever after. To an

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-05 Thread Sudev Barar
On 06/05/07, Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 06 May 2007 02:05:40 +0530, Sandip Bhattacharya said: Anant Narayanan wrote: Well, in software, there are several known examples where Microsoft eeer no [OT] or {WayOT] tag there?? Important stuff this and refreshing