--- Anupam Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2/8/07, Sriram J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2/8/07, Anupam Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2/8/07, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On 08-Feb-07, at 4:38 PM, Anupam Jain wrote:
this mailing list and I did not see
FOSS - Free Open Source Software
OSS - Open Source Software
Please note the word 'software' in both these.
that is what we are talking about here. There are
many other Free and/
or Open thingies in the world. We are not talking
about them here.
Further i find people who take the
On 08-Feb-07, at 1:43 PM, vivek khurana wrote:
Kenneth this is too much. If you are making comment
on yourself then it is fine else do not think everyone
with liberal or broad view fail to accomplish
anything.
dont be silly - does creative dot take a broad liberal view and allow
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
the only question being asked here is 'should the community
participate in conferences where microsoft is a sponsor' - and if it
does, how does the community benefit?
I believe there is a disconnect between what Kenneth is talking about
and what others are talking
dont be silly - does creative dot take a broad
liberal view and allow
proprietary stuff there?
Yup, you can post work created using proprietary
software as long as you have licensed copy of the
software. And yes we have M$ executives as
contributors too.
regards
VK
Engineers normally
And please, for those focusing on the practical side of Linux, it
would be best that you stay away from this discussion. You obviously
don't look at the larger picture. There would be no Linux/FOSS if people
only focused on the practical side.
BS. F/OSS was doing great without all the
On 08-Feb-07, at 2:16 PM, vivek khurana wrote:
Yup, you can post work created using proprietary
software as long as you have licensed copy of the
software. And yes we have M$ executives as
contributors too.
thats not what i said - i asked if you permit no-sharing, copy-
protect,
On 2/8/07, Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
the only question being asked here is 'should the community
participate in conferences where microsoft is a sponsor' - and if it
does, how does the community benefit?
I believe there is a disconnect between
thats not what i said - i asked if you permit
no-sharing, copy-
protect, no-copying, no-distribution? according to
this:
http://creative.linux-delhi.org/?q=node/2
you dont. Why dont you allow that also. Why restrict
to just these 12
licenses? Be liberal. Invite everyone in - you
So when it comes to Microsoft advertising in Linux magazines and
sponsoring Linux events, where you see red, I see an opportunity, of
an equal footing, at Microsoft's expense. Linux and FOSS is clearly
better than Windows, we just need to cut through MS's FUD. Mailing
Lists will not do that
On 08-Feb-07, at 3:26 PM, vivek khurana wrote:
Liberal/broad view does not means you allow anything.
ahh - we are on the same side and saying the same thing.
--
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate, NRC-FOSS
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/
On 08-Feb-07, at 2:51 PM, Anupam Jain wrote:
Not true. Linus is another one of those practical side people, who
had created Linux without any philosophy in mind.
where did you discover this gem? or is it your own invention? Have
you read any of his writings?
--
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Janani Gopalakrishnan wrote:
Who had the stalls next to Microsoft at LinuxAsia? Did they
use it well? (Apologies, I couldn't attend LA as I was busy getting married,
so somebody who attended please throw light on this!!)
I don't know about who was next to M$'s stall, I know who was there
On 2/8/07, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 08-Feb-07, at 2:51 PM, Anupam Jain wrote:
Not true. Linus is another one of those practical side people, who
had created Linux without any philosophy in mind.
where did you discover this gem? or is it your own invention? Have
you
On 2/8/07, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 00:30 +0530, Anupam Jain wrote:
[...]
I have mixed views on Microsoft's participation in the event.
Personally, I feel that it is up to LFY to decide. Given that
Linux Asia is by no stretch of the imagination a community
On 2/8/07, nipra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
On 2/8/07, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 00:30 +0530, Anupam Jain wrote:
[snip]
I liked ILUGD better when it wasn't committee-ised and decisions were
not taken by individuals for the whole LUG. The freedom to
On 2/8/07, Anupam Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2/8/07, nipra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
On 2/8/07, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 00:30 +0530, Anupam Jain wrote:
[snip]
I liked ILUGD better when it wasn't committee-ised and decisions were
not
On 08-Feb-07, at 4:28 PM, Anupam Jain wrote:
where did you discover this gem? or is it your own invention? Have
you read any of his writings?
Kenneth which statement is it that you object to? All I'm saying is
that Linus was in a more practical than philosophical mood when he
started
On 08-Feb-07, at 4:38 PM, Anupam Jain wrote:
this mailing list and I did not see a very public discussion on the
mailing list before everything was done and over. The committee
related decisions of ILUGD have been mostly off the list.
not so - agenda is always disclosed on the list.
On 2/8/07, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 08-Feb-07, at 4:38 PM, Anupam Jain wrote:
this mailing list and I did not see a very public discussion on the
mailing list before everything was done and over. The committee
related decisions of ILUGD have been mostly off the list.
On 08-Feb-07, at 5:19 PM, Anupam Jain wrote:
Anyways that is not even the main point of that supposedly
objectionable paragraph. The main point was that fragmenting the
community for no reason is not welcome!
where is the fragmentation - do you contend that LFY is part of the
community?
On 2/8/07, Anupam Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2/8/07, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 08-Feb-07, at 4:38 PM, Anupam Jain wrote:
this mailing list and I did not see a very public discussion on the
mailing list before everything was done and over. The committee
On 2/8/07, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 08-Feb-07, at 4:28 PM, Anupam Jain wrote:
where did you discover this gem? or is it your own invention? Have
you read any of his writings?
Kenneth which statement is it that you object to? All I'm saying is
that Linus was in a
On 2/8/07, Sriram J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2/8/07, Anupam Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2/8/07, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 08-Feb-07, at 4:38 PM, Anupam Jain wrote:
this mailing list and I did not see a very public discussion on the
mailing list
On 2/8/07, Anupam Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And I think FOSS is all about the community. And the community
welcomes participation. I somehow feel something's amiss when we start
banning people and organisations from any of Linux/FOSS events,
because their contributions to the community
On 08-Feb-07, at 5:48 PM, Anupam Jain wrote:
part of the electoral process? Before taking any decision, you do not
take a decision and inform the members of the same,
who did that - you are just spreading wild untrue allegations
you give the
members the details of the situation and ask for
On 2/8/07, Anupam Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You meant to be satirical but I think your suggestion is an excellent
one! Well during election times do you see people being asked to come
to Delhi and visit the Rashtrapati Bhavan in case they want to be a
part of the electoral process? Before
On 08-Feb-07, at 5:41 PM, Anupam Jain wrote:
philosophy and does nothing but talk and guys like linus and guido et
al are mere code monkeys without a world view. This is not true.
It may be a very popular misconception, but it is not one *I* harbour.
then why are you spreading it?
And I
On 2/8/07, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
contributions of microsoft to the community are not debatable. They
are nil. But their contributions against the community are legion
they contributed the line return 0; to linux code. :-)
Regards
Sriram
On 2/8/07, Sriram J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2/8/07, Anupam Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You meant to be satirical but I think your suggestion is an excellent
one! Well during election times do you see people being asked to come
to Delhi and visit the Rashtrapati Bhavan in case they
On 2/8/07, Sriram J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2/8/07, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
contributions of microsoft to the community are not debatable. They
are nil. But their contributions against the community are legion
they contributed the line return 0; to linux code.
On 2/8/07, Anupam Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2/8/07, Sriram J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2/8/07, Anupam Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2/8/07, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 08-Feb-07, at 4:38 PM, Anupam Jain wrote:
this mailing list and I did not
On 2/8/07, Anupam Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2/8/07, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 08-Feb-07, at 4:38 PM, Anupam Jain wrote:
this mailing list and I did not see a very public discussion on the
mailing list before everything was done and over. The committee
On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 16:38 +0530, Anupam Jain wrote:
On 2/8/07, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 00:30 +0530, Anupam Jain wrote:
[...]
I liked ILUGD better when it wasn't committee-ised and decisions were
not taken by individuals for the whole LUG. The freedom
On 2/8/07, G Karunakar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
Wait you are confusing two entities - LUG - Linux User Group - the
registered society...where a committee takes decisions (you have to
pay a small fee to be registered member of this organization.. though
objectives of this entity are while
On 2/8/07, Vishnu Gopal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2/8/07, Parthan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip snip snip]
3. We were too tempted to know what 'interoperability' they meant were
all about, so we went to the M$ stall and enquired what they were having
there for display on a Linux
On 2/8/07, G Karunakar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2/8/07, Vishnu Gopal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
well what do you expect google to show.. a screen with google search
opened..? or gmail? or orkut? or youtube? or google earth?... at
least they have something to do with FOSS.. whether
in infinite wisdom Vishnu Gopal spoke thus On 02/08/2007 07:17 PM:
Offtopic, but I was there as well and it's not M$ alone that did this.
Google also had eyecandy gurls and pretty much nothing in their stalls
except a box where you can fill in an application to join them. Nobody
however
On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 19:41 +0530, Parthan wrote:
Vishnu Gopal wrote:
[...]
Google also had eyecandy gurls
[...]
Second, google wasn't with eye candy gurls.
[...]
I am really, really confused. What is wrong with, ahem, quote eye candy
gurls unquote. And, in a FOSS world! I mean, really.
From: Anupam Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The event needed money and they were paying lots. Call a spade a spade.
If they weren't paying this huge mail wouldn't have been there, right?
M$ ideology is exactly opposite of Linux ideology, so its like Smirnoff
sponsoring the Alcoholics Anonymous meet.
Let's not have any illusions. Microsoft joined in the party for its
own personal selfish gains. It would be illogical to think otherwise.
But the point is did succeed in harming the community?
Do we need to wait for it to do more harm?
Regards,
Debarshi
--
After the game the king and the
2. BTW as for the reason, Microsoft have their Linux
infrastructure in house to work on and do research.
They are taking on things that work in Linux and make
changes to their own products.
When a crime is done, the criminal knows that he is doing wrong. In
most cases he also knows what is
Linus is another one of those practical side people, who
had created Linux without any philosophy in mind. I totally agree that
without RMS and FSF and GNU and all the big picture people we would
not be where we are today but without the practical people we would
all still be hacking on a
On 08-Feb-07, at 7:17 PM, Vishnu Gopal wrote:
Offtopic, but I was there as well and it's not M$ alone that did this.
Google also had eyecandy gurls and pretty much nothing in their stalls
except a box where you can fill in an application to join them. Nobody
however takes them out on this
On 09-Feb-07, at 3:05 AM, Debarshi Ray wrote:
Linus is another one of those practical side people, who
had created Linux without any philosophy in mind. I totally agree
that
without RMS and FSF and GNU and all the big picture people we would
not be where we are today but without the
--- Sriram J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
they contributed the line return 0; to linux
code. :-)
nah, exit -1 :-)
regards
VK
Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they have a
solution in search of a problem.
http://creative.linux-delhi.org
Disclaimer
The facts
--- Anupam Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
They are not nil and I will vouch for it. Read my
Haskell post for an
example. Go to research.microsoft.com and you'll
realise that
Microsoft engineers contribute a lot in terms of
ideas (though their
code may still be under MS' control). And I
On 2/6/07, Tanveer Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Members of the Community
I regret the delay in posting our 'side of the story' w.r.t. Microsoft at
LinuxAsia 07. Here's our attempt...
snip snip snip
The event needed
--- Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 07-Feb-07, at 12:56 PM, vivek khurana wrote:
Just one presentation with no explaination from
any
reperesntative regarding the purpose of
presentation.
Yes a presentation was running along with demo of
Vista and M$ office 2007.
On 07-Feb-07, at 3:42 PM, Anupam Jain wrote:
M$ ideology is exactly opposite of Linux ideology, so its like
Smirnoff
sponsoring the Alcoholics Anonymous meet.
Except that Smirnoff is in the Alcoholic drinks business which is 'by
definition' opposed to an AA meet's purpose. Where as
Except that Smirnoff is in the Alcoholic drinks business which is 'by
definition' opposed to an AA meet's purpose. Where as Microsoft is in
the software business, just like the FOSS fellows. Microsoft
sponsoring the LA event is NOT the same as Smirnoff sponsoring an AA
meet.
No problem!! So
On 2/7/07, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 07-Feb-07, at 3:42 PM, Anupam Jain wrote:
M$ ideology is exactly opposite of Linux ideology, so its like
Smirnoff
sponsoring the Alcoholics Anonymous meet.
Except that Smirnoff is in the Alcoholic drinks business which is 'by
Anupam Jain wrote:
FOSS is not about forcing a choice. It's about letting people know
that a choice exists so that they can take a well informed decision. I
see nothing wrong with letting MS parade the choices it has for offer
and us parading what we have. If MS pays us good money to hold
On 07-Feb-07, at 5:24 PM, Anupam Jain wrote:
hold that doing so is the biggest danger to the development of
software. So the analogy is exact.
Wouldn't you call making money from software being in the software
business?
making money how? that is the question. I make money buying and
Anupam Jain wrote:
I
see nothing wrong with letting MS parade the choices it has for offer
and us parading what we have. If MS pays us good money to hold such a
showoff and that too *on our turf* then what is the problem?
Why should MS parade its products on a conference named *Linux* Asia.
Anupam Jain wrote:
I really don't understand what the big deal is. If the agenda was
sabotaged by Microsoft by just being a partrner/sponsor then let's
hear it in concrete terms *how*.
This was supposed to be a Linux promotion event. This was not IT 2007
or the like, where everybody related
vivek khurana wrote:
--- Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 07-Feb-07, at 12:56 PM, vivek khurana wrote:
Just one presentation with no explaination from
any
reperesntative regarding the purpose of
presentation.
Yes a presentation was running along with demo of
Vista and M$
Maybe we should create an orkut community titled MS
trojan horse @ LA
;-)
ducking and running
VK
Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they have a
solution in search of a problem.
http://creative.linux-delhi.org
Disclaimer
The facts expressed here belong to everybody,
On 2/7/07, Raj Shekhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anupam Jain wrote:
FOSS is not about forcing a choice. It's about letting people know
that a choice exists so that they can take a well informed decision. I
see nothing wrong with letting MS parade the choices it has for offer
and us
A booklet distributed by Microsoft at the CXOSummit presented how
Microsoft was working with Open Source projects! I believe the same was
running as a presentation on their booth too.
For me it is Free Software and not Open Source. I have heard Microsoft
executives boast of their six 'open
On 07/02/07, Anupam Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The only sparks that flew where when Microsoft made it abundantly clear
that they would use their patent portfolio to prevent the spread of GPL
software.
Did something like that happen in LA too? If not then it's not
something worth
On 2/7/07, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 07-Feb-07, at 5:24 PM, Anupam Jain wrote:
hold that doing so is the biggest danger to the development of
software. So the analogy is exact.
Wouldn't you call making money from software being in the software
business?
making
On 2/7/07, Parthan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anupam Jain wrote:
I
see nothing wrong with letting MS parade the choices it has for offer
and us parading what we have. If MS pays us good money to hold such a
showoff and that too *on our turf* then what is the problem?
Why should MS parade
On 2/7/07, Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anupam Jain wrote:
I really don't understand what the big deal is. If the agenda was
sabotaged by Microsoft by just being a partrner/sponsor then let's
hear it in concrete terms *how*.
This was supposed to be a Linux promotion event.
On 2/7/07, Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
vivek khurana wrote:
--- Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 07-Feb-07, at 12:56 PM, vivek khurana wrote:
Just one presentation with no explaination from
any
reperesntative regarding the purpose of
presentation.
Hi friends,
Pls allow me to clarify.
1. We had informed most speakers in advance about Microsoft's presence,
and sponsors too. At least all who had signed in after the deal.
2. We never intended to hide the fact. We had mentioned the possibility of
Microsoft coming in as a sponsor even during
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 01:07:31AM +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
PS: Interestingly, I CANNOT find any news item on the ET website with the
title MS takes linux world by storm...can you?
Must add, I did try to google this titlethere's one find...of an ET
entry...same date...but
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Of Akshay Lamba
The way I see it there are 3 stands here:
1. The event organizers really believes in the stand they took and are
ready to defend it
2. The event organizers is justifying it's stand by sugar
a similar IF YOU can't beat them why not join them tone to it.
Regards
rahul
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Of Ashish Shukla
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 1:26 AM
To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list
Subject: Re: [ilugd] The MS trojan horse
On 2/7/07, Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
vivek khurana wrote:
--- Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 07-Feb-07, at 12:56 PM, vivek khurana wrote:
Just one presentation with no explaination from
any
reperesntative regarding the purpose of
presentation.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
4. VERY IMP POINT!!!
Interestingly, the para selected for the discussion SEEMS TO BE A GREAT
EXAMPLE OF SELECTIVE EDITING. No URL for this story was provided for all
of us to view the complete story.
Our PR agency recently sent us press-clippings of LinuxAsia. A
Quoting Sudev Barar [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 07/02/07, Anupam Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The only sparks that flew where when Microsoft made it abundantly clear
that they would use their patent portfolio to prevent the spread of GPL
software.
Did something like that happen in LA
when an event of big scale is to be organized the
planning has to be
well in advance.. engaging with the community has
to begin early on
not at last minute.. with less than a month left for
the event!
I would second that. I have come to know preparations
for LCA start 18 months in
Quoting Anupam Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Cmon are all sponsors necessarily connected with Linux? Most companies
sponsor events because they want advertising, not because they believe
in the cause.
BS - pure BS. Take a look at the sponsorship list at foss.in. Most companies
sponsor foss
Quoting Anupam Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
And in this case LA was our turf, our event.
it wasnt. never was. it is a commercial event involved with linux, and the
organisers wanted to involve the community too. Unfortunately, they went about
it the wrong way and the community did not respond very
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi friends,
Pls allow me to clarify.
1. We had informed most speakers in advance about Microsoft's presence,
and sponsors too. At least all who had signed in after the deal.
which Indian speakers did you inform?
2. We never intended to hide the fact.
why
Hi there,
1. Why are we scared of Microsoft being there in the
event?
2. BTW as for the reason, Microsoft have their Linux
infrastructure in house to work on and do research.
They are taking on things that work in Linux and make
changes to their own products.
3. By similar argument, why
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On Thursday 08 February 2007 00:30, Anupam Jain wrote:
[snip]
I liked ILUGD better when it wasn't committee-ised and decisions
were not taken by individuals for the whole LUG. The freedom to
fork is good but not the decision to do so on the
Quoting Naresh Narang [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi there,
1. Why are we scared of Microsoft being there in the
event?
who is scared?
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Naresh Narang wrote:
Hi there,
1. Why are we scared of Microsoft being there in the
event?
s/Scared/Pissed Off ;)
2. BTW as for the reason, Microsoft have their Linux
infrastructure in house to work on and do research.
They are taking on things that work in Linux and make
changes to
Parthan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Anupam Jain wrote:
Asia' ? what products that MS exhibited there has relation to Linux.
Their OS, probably? It is a competition to Gnu/linux, no? and that is
relationship enough, no?
They are the first and biggest ones again Linux and what they are doing
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Second--since LA 04, we've been wanting Microsoft to participate in
LinuxAsia. In fact, it did present a couple of talks in the first
Ah. The decision was made way back, 2 years ago.
a) Microsoft, due to its recent Novell deal, has entered the Linux
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PS: Interestingly, I CANNOT find any news item on the ET website with the
title MS takes linux world by storm...can you?
I have been reading this thread and as of right now - why don't we just
let it go ? Much as we try
On 08-Feb-07, at 10:28 AM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote:
Let's leave the hoary discussion aside and move on as to how and
what to
do in future event where this is going to happen again and again.
this discussion is not about convincing LA or about condemning them.
It helps us clarify
--- Mahesh T. Pai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nah. They are not against _linux_ but against GPL.
Agsint freedom;
against freesoftware. It is is Linux's fault if it
is gpl'ed and Free
a.k.a swatantra.
GOT IT?
Inviting flames
No, I didn't get it. Example, I couldn't find any
Hi all!
First off, let me tell you that I had and have no intention of jumping into
this debate, though I've been quietly watching it since the thread started.
Second, let me tell you that I'm pro-OSS but not anti-Microsoft and that's
not abnormal... many won't admit it if you do a +1 voting
--- Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rahul, in what way was my selective editing
misrepresentative of my
point? I copy pasted the relevant content from
ET's epaper edition. In
any case, would I be so stupid to misquote from an
easily verifiable
source - that too a very
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On Thursday 08 February 2007 10:57, Janani Gopalakrishnan wrote:
[snip]
Isn't open source about being 'open', isn't it about a free
market, isn't is about giving everybody a chance, isn't it about
higher talent and ideals winning over lower ones,
On 08-Feb-07, at 10:57 AM, Janani Gopalakrishnan wrote:
Hi all!
First off, let me tell you that I had and have no intention of
jumping into
this debate,
unfortunately you *have* jumped in
though I've been quietly watching it since the thread started.
Second, let me tell you that I'm
On 08-Feb-07, at 11:41 AM, Raj Mathur wrote:
I think the questions being asked here (I could be wrong, of course)
i think you are wrong
are (a) What is Linux-Asia's focus and
to publicise LFY and sister publications and make money
(b) Does MS' presence at LA
contribute to that focus or
it isnt - it is a philosophy on how to make software.
I know it's off-topic, but since you say this... what a narrow view,
Kenneth, it's a pity you think of free and open source as a philosophy
applying only to software. Check out creativedot for example! A real
philosophy, in my view, breaks
(b) Does MS' presence at LA
contribute to that focus or detract from it
contributes
+1. By actually spending a lot of money on LinuxAsia, Microsoft has
publicly acknowledged that fact that F/OSS is a force to be contend
with. This wasn't the case sometime back; and therefore, this is a
Inviting flames
No, I didn't get it. Example, I couldn't find any
good video drivers for ATI Radeon 7000 card for Fedora
4. Are going to write them for me for free? And yes,
please make sure that quality of driver is good. Don't
forget to write document and installation notes.
g,dr
Dear Members of the Community
I regret the delay in posting our 'side of the story' w.r.t. Microsoft at
LinuxAsia 07. Here's our attempt...
First--about four years back, when we had just about launched LINUX For
You, I had the opportunity to attend a Bill Gates press conference. I even
got a
On 2/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Members of the Community
I regret the delay in posting our 'side of the story' w.r.t. Microsoft at
LinuxAsia 07. Here's our attempt...
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The event needed money and they were paying lots. Call a spade a spade.
If
Rahul,
As someone who had no stake in LA for the last few years I guess my
opinion on this is moot, but I wanted to ask:
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accelerate the adoption of Linux/OSS amongst customers, and customers like
to hear the stories of both
Wishes!
Rahul
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Rahul,
As someone who had no stake in LA
When we bagged the Microsoft deal--we knew that it was a
strong acknowledgement of this fact especially w.r.t. India. Hence, we've
always interpreted Microsoft's sponsorship as a strong acknowledgement of
Linux/OSS.
How does it gets proved they have acknowledged Linux/OSS for sponsoring
for
Fourth--so can a Linux/OSS-competitor be allowed to rule the agenda?
No. We worked hard, behind the scenes, with microsoft, to ensure that none
of their messages chided the Linux/OSS philosophy. Where-ever, we felt
that there were chances of a debate, we prepared our teams and some
members of
Dear Members of the Community
I regret the delay in posting our 'side of the story' w.r.t. Microsoft at
LinuxAsia 07. Here's our attempt...
Very well said.
Event like this do need money and no harm in accepting money from any one
including Drug Mafia.
Linux community is strong minded
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