RE: [IMail Forum] Any ASSP Pro's out there?

2006-11-01 Thread Chris Moore
On a daily basis:
Run move2num
Run dbupdate

In ASSP setup (web interface) put a check in these options:
Add Spam Probability Header
Add Bayes Confidence Header
Add Spam Header*
Add Spam Reason Header

* Adds a header(X-Assp-Spam: YES) this allows your users to filter what ASSP
thinks is spam.
Explain to your users what you are doing, ask them to help you by sending
spam to assp-spam and mistaken ham to assp-notspam.  This will help to build
your corpus.

The instructions tell you to run in test mode to build the corpus, a good
idea I am thinking, the ASSP delay function stops most of the crud.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 November 2006 03:41
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Any ASSP Pro's out there?

 I second that.
 I had the same panic when I first ran it.
 Just watch the spam  notspam folder for 2 weeks and make sure you 
 manually clean it up.
 Then follow the last steps of the doc and go live.
 It works wonders! 

2 weeks huh?  Long time.  So don't run the dbupdate until after the 2 weeks?
We process about 19,000 emails daily on the server.  2 Weeks is gonna be a
while :P

Mike N
FXOL

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Re: [IMail Forum] ASSP problems

2006-11-01 Thread Mauro Lanci

I have this error randomly on ASSP:
Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection. Possible causes for
this include server problems, network problems, or a long period of
inactivity. Account: 'x', Server: 'smtp.xxx', Protocol: SMTP,
Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Error Number: 0x800CCC0F

I have tried with telnet and also there the connection is closed randomly.

Following are some additional information on the configuration:
- ASSP runs on the same box of IMail 2006.1
- On the server there are 2 IP addresses and all MX records point to the 
secondary IP

- On Imail there are about 600 domains for a total of 3000 users.
- ASSP has the following configuration:
   - SMTP Destination: secondary IP:25
   - Listen Port: 25
   - Maximum SMTP Sessions: 0
   - Maximum Sessions/IP: 10
   - SMTP Idle Timeout: 0
   - Secondary Hostnames/IP-Nr(s) of this server: server name (first IP
address): secondary IP address

Thank you for any help on this issue.
Mauro 



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RE: [IMail Forum] Any ASSP Pro's out there?

2006-11-01 Thread Jason Loven
Did you verify that all your outbound email is going through ASSP? Kinda
obvious I know but we had a problem where ours wasn't for a couple of
months and boy did it get ugly as the whitelist entries started to
expire. Once I figured that out and fixed it things improved radically
within a day or two.

-Jason

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [IMail Forum] Any ASSP Pro's out there?

Installed ASSP 4+ days ago, and all seems fine. Except I'm getting A LOT
of valid email 
blocked via the Beyesian filter.  Is there a way to make it less
sensitive or something?

Mike N
FXOL

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RE: [IMail Forum] Upgraded from 8.21 to 8.22, now POP3 won't work with SSL enabled...

2006-11-01 Thread S.J.Stanaitis
I wonder if it has anything to do with the SSL cert?  Haven't gotten any
bites on the list for this problem yet.  I'm going to recreate the cert and
see if that does the trick.  In the mean time, if anyone wants to chime in
with ideas - please do!

Thanks,
Sam

SJ.Stanaitis - Network Administrator
Decorative Product Source E-commerce Network

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Thomas -
Mathbox
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 1:04 AM
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Upgraded from 8.21 to 8.22, now POP3 won't work
with SSL enabled...

Sam,

 Can't imagine what else would be hanging out on port 995 to cause this
 error.  I disabled SSL and the POP3D loaded fine.  Under 8.21 
 it loaded fine
 with SSL.  Anyone have an idea?  Haven't tried rebooting the 
 server just
 yet...

I have the same problem. Ever since I moved Imail to the new server, if I
restart the machine or just the POP3 service, I have had to restart POP3 4
or 5 times before it would start clean. I thought it was a problem that had
been there all along, but only became visible when I moved Imail to the
faster machine. Prior to the move, Imail had been running on a dual 1 Ghz
PIII system. So, I thought it was a processor speed related race condition.
NOPE! I just happen to have the old server still available. I haven't gotten
around to making it into a gateway server yet. So, I fired it up and TLS was
not enabled on the old system. I hadn't enabled TLS until after I moved it!
Like you, if I disable TLS, POP3 starts up just fine on the first try. So,
thank you for figuring that out.

I also happened to notice the Version info on the admin panel. 8.22 dated
October 2005.

Ipswitch, can we get this fixed also?

Michael Thomas
Mathbox
978-683-6718
1-877-MATHBOX (Toll Free)
 



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Re: [IMail Forum] Any ASSP Pro's out there?

2006-11-01 Thread Jimm Wetherbee
Mike,

I spent about two weeks training the Bayesian filter before I was happy
with it.  Those two weeks were very time consuming (and dull) spent
moving messages between the spam and notspam folders (frequenting
rebuilding the spamdb) but in the end the filter works well.  If you
know more than I, you can play with the confidence level.  You might
want to take a look a the ASSP list
(https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user).

--jimm

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Installed ASSP 4+ days ago, and all seems fine. Except I'm getting A LOT of 
 valid email 
 blocked via the Beyesian filter.  Is there a way to make it less sensitive or 
 something?

 Mike N
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Re: [IMail Forum] Any ASSP Pro's out there?

2006-11-01 Thread mnapuran
 I spent about two weeks training the Bayesian filter before I was happy
 with it.  Those two weeks were very time consuming (and dull) spent
 moving messages between the spam and notspam folders (frequenting
 rebuilding the spamdb) but in the end the filter works well.  If you
 know more than I, you can play with the confidence level.  You might
 want to take a look a the ASSP list
 (https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user).

Thanks... I thought you only rebuild the spamdb filter after the 2 weeks?  
Should I still be 
rebuilding it daily during the 2 weeks of training?

Mike N
FXOL

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[IMail Forum] Another 2006.1 web mail error

2006-11-01 Thread Dave Doherty



Hi again,

I have had two reports of this particular 
error in webmail, which shows up in the left-hand column:An error was encountered while processing your request. (Return to 
previous page) If you encounter this error again, please provide the 
following information to your network administrator to assist in 
trouble-shooting. Message:System error StackTrace:at 
Hunny.Mail.Socket.Connect(String host, Int32 port) at 
Hunny.Mail.Imap4Client.Connect(String address, Int32 port) at 
Ipswitch.Web.Mail.Imap4Connection..ctor(IUser user) at 
Ipswitch.Web.Mail.Imap4Folder.get_UnreadCount() at 
Ipswitch.Web.Client.FolderTree.ProcessMailFolderList(ArrayList folders, Nodes 
level) at Ipswitch.Web.Client.FolderTree.ProcessMailFolders(IUser user) at 
Ipswitch.Web.Client.FolderTree.Page_Load(Object sender, EventArgs e) at 
System.Web.UI.Control.OnLoad(EventArgs e) at 
System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() at System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() 
at System.Web.UI.Control.AddedControl(Control control, Int32 index) at 
System.Web.UI.ControlCollection.Add(Control child) at 
Infragistics.WebUI.UltraWebListbar.UltraWebListbar.CreateChildControls() at 
System.Web.UI.Control.EnsureChildControls() at 
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() at 
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() at 
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() at 
System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain()Is anyone else 
experiencing these errors?-Dave DohertySkywaves, 
Inc.508-425-7176[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: [IMail Forum] ASSP problems

2006-11-01 Thread Doug Traylor

I have this error randomly on ASSP:


ASSP has a mailing list for support that you can browse and join at 
http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=69172


The reason I point this out is I haven't seen you posting this question 
there.


I would suggest posting your configuration questions there.


- ASSP runs on the same box of IMail 2006.1
   - SMTP Destination: secondary IP:25
   - Listen Port: 25


Where did you get the idea to use port 25 on both IP's?
This may work as it obviously does somewhat for you, but I do not believe it 
is optimal.
I think you need to have Imail listen on a separate port like 125, and that 
should not be accessible to the internet.


Doug Traylor

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RE: [IMail Forum] Asp error

2006-11-01 Thread Matrosity Hosting
Title: Asp error



2006 is filled with permission problems so this wouldn't 
surprise me. Since this is a 2003 server .net 1.1 came on it but it is 
patched.

I was thinking of removing the Iadmin app pool and 
recreating it but am not sure. I'm leaning more towards the if it isn't broken 
don't fix it methodology. I hate this because a smoking engine is usually an 
indicator of bigger problems.

:)
Bill Foresman 
Matrosity Hosting 
www.matrosity.com 
850.656.2644 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave 
DohertySent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 10:29 AMTo: 
Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.comSubject: Re: [IMail Forum] Asp 
error

Bill, 

Could not 
create a Disk Cache Sub-directory for the Application Pool.

This is similar to an error I used to see 
occasionally in the early days of .NET 1.0. As I recall, it was a permissions 
error that was extremely hard to solve because the error message didn't describe 
what was actually happening. Installing .NET Framework 1.1 over 1.0 solved the 
problem, as I remember it.

-d


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  From: 
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  Hosting 
  To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 8:57 
  AM
  Subject: [IMail Forum] Asp error
  
  This isn't a fire but I have one of these in my 
  application events: 
  Error: The Template Persistent Cache 
  initialization failed for Application Pool 'IAdmin' because of the following 
  error: Could not create a Disk Cache Sub-directory for the Application Pool. 
  The data may have additional error codes..
  Bill Foresman Matrosity Hosting www.matrosity.com 850.656.2644 


RE: [IMail Forum] OT: Barracuda vs MXLogic?

2006-11-01 Thread James Robb



Hi Jason 

We have been using a Barracuda in front of our IMail server for the last 
2 years and have been very happy with the unit. The unit is easy to 
administer and setup. We had to make some changes to our SMTP ports but 
that is the way we are set and I don't think that would be typical setup. 
The support from Barracuda is very good, and they will go to all lengths to make 
sure the issues are fixed. 

The other day wehad a single IP send over 4000 messages in a two 
hour time frame which were stopped very easily and did not affect the normal 
flow of mail. The biggest advantage to the Barracuda is that is has 
reduced the work load on the mail server which until we switched was being 
ground down to the point that it was running at about 90% full load all the 
time. 


Best Regards,James Robb




  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason 
  LovenSent: Monday, October 30, 2006 3:53 PMTo: 
  Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.comSubject: [IMail Forum] OT: Barracuda 
  vs MXLogic?
  
  
  Can anyone out there comment on 
  the effectiveness of a tool like a Barracuda vs the hosted AS services like 
  MXLogic? A few of our customers domains are getting mauled by directory 
  attacks and just a general huge wave of spam and were trying to find a 
  solution. MXLogic looks nice for the lower-tech places (not really good at 
  self administering) and the Barracuda has the appeal of having lower recurring 
  costs.
  
  Thank 
  you,
  Jason 
  Loven
  Manager - Technical Services 
  Department
  
  Computer Associates, 
  Inc.36 Thurber 
  Blvd, Smithfield RI 02917Phone: (401)232-2600, Fax: 
  (401)232-7778Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Web: 
  http://www.cainetserv.com/
  


RE: [IMail Forum] Having problems with a domain

2006-11-01 Thread Steve Couture
Can connect to both without a problem

Steven Couture
WebNet Services, Inc.
(914) 923-4811 Ext. 100

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharyn Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 10:49 AM
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: [IMail Forum] Having problems with a domain

Good morning, 

I am having problems emailing the following domain: 

melbourneitcbs.com 

I have telnetted to both their mail servers, manually, and get a 421
error. 

217.79.216.190 and 217.69.20.190 

I logged onto DNS report but Scott's software was able to contact the
domain without issue. 

I am not having issues with any other domains. I've checked my Imail
logs and all other mail seems to be flowing with no problems at all.
This just started happening a few days ago, I have been able to email
them up until last Thurs.

Can someone please telnet to these servers and tell me if they are
getting a 421 error as well? 

Thanks, 
Sharyn 

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RE: [IMail Forum] Update for SMTP vulnerability in 8.22

2006-11-01 Thread Mike Callahan
Just out of curiosity, what is the benefit of running ASSP, IMGATE, Barracuda, 
and Alligate all in front of your mail system?   I have used most of these 
products individually in front a several different types of mail servers, and 
it would seem to me there would be little if any benefit from using several 
systems in succession as they all mostly offer the same options/features -- 
give or take a couple.

~M

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To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Update for SMTP vulnerability in 8.22


ASSP, IMGATE, , Barracuda and Alligate all sit in front of the mail server
and act as a gateway. If you keep your mail server otherwise firewalled and
have one of these products out in front then the vulnerability is mitigated
(from external sources).

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 12:28 PM
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Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Update for SMTP vulnerability in 8.22


So am I to understand that ASSP somehow prevents the vulnerabtility from
being a problem?

Mike N
FXOL

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RE: [IMail Forum] Update for SMTP vulnerability in 8.22

2006-11-01 Thread Mike Callahan
Oops, never mind.  I misread the previous message.  You were offering these as 
examples and advising to choose ONE, not use them all.  ;-)   That makes sense. 
 *self-administered dope slap in progress*

~M

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Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Update for SMTP vulnerability in 8.22


ASSP, IMGATE, , Barracuda and Alligate all sit in front of the mail server
and act as a gateway. If you keep your mail server otherwise firewalled and
have one of these products out in front then the vulnerability is mitigated
(from external sources).

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 12:28 PM
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Update for SMTP vulnerability in 8.22


So am I to understand that ASSP somehow prevents the vulnerabtility from
being a problem?

Mike N
FXOL

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RE: [IMail Forum] Update for SMTP vulnerability in 8.22

2006-11-01 Thread Chris Moody
Not literally. I meant the SMTP Proxies in general, whatever your choice
was. One is enough. :)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Callahan
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 10:54 AM
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Update for SMTP vulnerability in 8.22

Just out of curiosity, what is the benefit of running ASSP, IMGATE,
Barracuda, and Alligate all in front of your mail system?   I have used
most of these products individually in front a several different types
of mail servers, and it would seem to me there would be little if any
benefit from using several systems in succession as they all mostly
offer the same options/features -- give or take a couple.

~M

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Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 12:31 PM
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Update for SMTP vulnerability in 8.22


ASSP, IMGATE, , Barracuda and Alligate all sit in front of the mail
server and act as a gateway. If you keep your mail server otherwise
firewalled and have one of these products out in front then the
vulnerability is mitigated (from external sources).

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 12:28 PM
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Update for SMTP vulnerability in 8.22


So am I to understand that ASSP somehow prevents the vulnerabtility from
being a problem?

Mike N
FXOL

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RE: [IMail Forum] Update for SMTP vulnerability in 8.22

2006-11-01 Thread Chris Moody
 S'Okay. :)

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Callahan
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 10:58 AM
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Update for SMTP vulnerability in 8.22

Oops, never mind.  I misread the previous message.  You were offering
these as examples and advising to choose ONE, not use them all.  ;-)
That makes sense.  *self-administered dope slap in progress*

~M

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Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 12:31 PM
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Update for SMTP vulnerability in 8.22


ASSP, IMGATE, , Barracuda and Alligate all sit in front of the mail
server and act as a gateway. If you keep your mail server otherwise
firewalled and have one of these products out in front then the
vulnerability is mitigated (from external sources).

-Original Message-
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 12:28 PM
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Update for SMTP vulnerability in 8.22


So am I to understand that ASSP somehow prevents the vulnerabtility from
being a problem?

Mike N
FXOL

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Re: [IMail Forum] Asp error

2006-11-01 Thread Dave Doherty
Title: Asp error



I hate 
this because a smoking engine is usually an indicator of bigger 
problems.

"Left to themselves, things go from bad to 
worse."
 - Somebody's corollary to 
Murphy's Law, "The perversity of a system tends to a 
maximum."

:-)

-d


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  From: 
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  Hosting 
  To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 10:35 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Asp 
error
  
  2006 is filled with permission problems so this wouldn't 
  surprise me. Since this is a 2003 server .net 1.1 came on it but it is 
  patched.
  
  I was thinking of removing the Iadmin app pool and 
  recreating it but am not sure. I'm leaning more towards the if it isn't broken 
  don't fix it methodology. I hate this because a smoking engine is usually an 
  indicator of bigger problems.
  
  :)
  Bill Foresman 
  Matrosity Hosting 
  www.matrosity.com 
  850.656.2644 
  
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave 
  DohertySent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 10:29 AMTo: 
  Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.comSubject: Re: [IMail Forum] Asp 
  error
  
  Bill, 
  
  Could not 
  create a Disk Cache Sub-directory for the Application 
Pool.
  
  This is similar to an error I used to 
  see occasionally in the early days of .NET 1.0. As I recall, it was a 
  permissions error that was extremely hard to solve because the error message 
  didn't describe what was actually happening. Installing .NET Framework 1.1 
  over 1.0 solved the problem, as I remember it.
  
  -d
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Matrosity 
Hosting 
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com 

Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 8:57 
AM
Subject: [IMail Forum] Asp error

This isn't a fire but I have one of these in my 
application events: 
Error: The Template Persistent Cache 
initialization failed for Application Pool 'IAdmin' because of the following 
error: Could not create a Disk Cache Sub-directory for the Application Pool. 
The data may have additional error codes..
Bill Foresman Matrosity Hosting www.matrosity.com 850.656.2644 


RE: SPAM-WARN:RE: [IMail Forum] Upgraded from 8.21 to 8.22, now POP3 won't work with SSL enabled...

2006-11-01 Thread Michael Thomas - Mathbox
Sam,
  
 I wonder if it has anything to do with the SSL cert?  Haven't 
 gotten any
 bites on the list for this problem yet.  I'm going to 
 recreate the cert and
 see if that does the trick.  In the mean time, if anyone 
 wants to chime in
 with ideas - please do!


I do have SSL running. For me, its TLS that is the issue. Do you have TLS
running.

Michael Thomas
Mathbox
978-683-6718
1-877-MATHBOX (Toll Free)


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Re: [IMail Forum] ASSP problems

2006-11-01 Thread Mauro Lanci

Sorry ther is an error as the correct SMTP Destination is secondary IP:225

I have already posted the question to ASSP mailing list but anyone has 
helped me.


Thank you if you can help me on this issue.

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From: Doug Traylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] ASSP problems



I have this error randomly on ASSP:

ASSP has a mailing list for support that you can browse and join at 
http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=69172


The reason I point this out is I haven't seen you posting this question 
there.


I would suggest posting your configuration questions there.


- ASSP runs on the same box of IMail 2006.1
   - SMTP Destination: secondary IP:25
   - Listen Port: 25


Where did you get the idea to use port 25 on both IP's?
This may work as it obviously does somewhat for you, but I do not believe 
it is optimal.
I think you need to have Imail listen on a separate port like 125, and 
that should not be accessible to the internet.


Doug Traylor

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RE: [IMail Forum] Update for SMTP vulnerability in 8.22

2006-11-01 Thread Len Conrad


Just out of curiosity, what is the benefit of running ASSP, IMGATE, 
Barracuda, and Alligate all in front of your mail system?   I have 
used most of these products individually in front a several 
different types of mail servers, and it would seem to me there would 
be little if any benefit from using several systems in succession as 
they all mostly offer the same options/features --


The benefit of IMGate (an envelope rejector) as separate box as MX in 
front of content-scanners is that the very expensive (in power 
consumption, and in the case of commercial c-s's, in $ ($25K for 
Barracuda 800 the first year) content-scanners have MUCH LESS content to scan.


IMGate blocking just for:

1) bad recipients,

2) unverifiable/undeliverable senders, and

3) greylisting

... will block 75%+ of all inbound traffic, including a huge majority 
of infected messages. This means the next-hop content-scanner has to 
process only 25% or less of the load that it would have to process if 
facing raw Internet inbound traffic.


btw, Barracuda (which, afaics, runs postfix as IMGate does) passes 
dictionary attacks straight through to the mailbox server as 
Barracuda does un-cached recipient verification at the mailbox server 
for ever single incoming msg.  IMGate blocks dictionary attacks 
totally by having its own local copy of legit recipients (doesn't 
have to verify recipients back at the mailbox server).


A $600 advanced IMGate recently installed in front of a submerged 
Barracuda 400 (messages delayed for 12 hours through the Barracuda) 
prevented the IMGate/Barracuda customer from upgrading to a Barracuda 
800 ($25K) and allowd the Barracuda 400 to keep up with the traffic 
much reduced by IMGate.


Content-scanning solutions necessitate receiving 100% of every 
message so it can be scanned.  If you're getting charged for 
bandwidth, that's a LOT of crap to eat and to pay for.  IMGate gives 
a huge savings in raw bandwidth and in back-end processing (content-scanning).


Of course, all of the above applies primarily to moderate- to 
high-volume mail systems.  Low-volume systems can get by with 
throwing very powerful boxes to do all processing on the mailbox server.


And IMGate also give vastly superior outbound traffic handling with 
detailed logging (answering excellently why wasn't this message 
delivered). The logging on, eg, a closed box like Barracuda is not 
available.  IMGate also runs its own DNS which can be also used by 
the back-end systems that will be repeating many of the DNS queries 
that IMGate will have in DNS cache.


btw, IMGate advanced will soon be upgraded with weighted scoring 
just like ASSP, SpamAssassin, Barracuda, Declude, Sniffer, etc while 
remaining an envelope rejector, ie, IMGate making the decision to 
accept or reject a message after the RCPT TO command and before the 
expensive DATA command.


Len



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Re: [IMail Forum] Update for SMTP vulnerability in 8.22

2006-11-01 Thread Matt
I just want to re-clarify something that I mentioned before in relation 
to the vulnerability and gateways.


The only way that one can prevent the exploit on an exploitable copy it 
to turn off the SMTP service or prevent all external traffic.  This is 
not an option for most running IMail.  Those affected are best served in 
relation to the vulnerability by upgrading to a fixed version.  All a 
script kiddie needs to do is point their exploit script at your 
unprotected server's IP and it's toast.  A gateway can't prevent that 
from happening.


The gateways are great ways to displace the vast majority of trash from 
getting to a mail server, and they do help prevent other issues such as 
malformed messages from crashing things like Queue Manager, or 
protecting servers from being overloaded, and allowing one to use much 
more CPU aggressive filtering at a deep-scanning layer since there is 
less to scan.  There are a host of other advantages too that are not as 
universal or independent to one particular product or another.


Matt



Chris Moody wrote:

 S'Okay. :)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Callahan
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 10:58 AM
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Update for SMTP vulnerability in 8.22

Oops, never mind.  I misread the previous message.  You were offering
these as examples and advising to choose ONE, not use them all.  ;-)
That makes sense.  *self-administered dope slap in progress*

~M

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Moody
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 12:31 PM
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Update for SMTP vulnerability in 8.22


ASSP, IMGATE, , Barracuda and Alligate all sit in front of the mail
server and act as a gateway. If you keep your mail server otherwise
firewalled and have one of these products out in front then the
vulnerability is mitigated (from external sources).

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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So am I to understand that ASSP somehow prevents the vulnerabtility from
being a problem?

Mike N
FXOL

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[IMail Forum] 2006.1 login changes?

2006-11-01 Thread Matrosity Hosting
Title: 2006.1 login changes?






Were there any changes to the login pages from 2006.04a to 2006.1? One of our clients uses an extranet that logs users into imail from a link.

Thanks,


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[IMail Forum] Re: [IMail Forum] Another 2006.1 web mail error

2006-11-01 Thread Will David
Dave,

By conincidence I have had two similar errors reported to me this afternoon 
like this.  The error is copied below.

I'll log it with Ipswitch and see what they have to say.  But you are not alone!
 

An error was encountered while processing your request. (Return to previous 
page)
If you encounter this error again, please provide the following information to 
your network administrator to assist in trouble-shooting. 

Message:Object reference not set to an instance of an object. 

StackTrace:
at Ipswitch.Web.Mail.Imap4Address.BuildFromAddress(IUser imapUser, String 
charset) at Ipswitch.Web.Client.ComposeMessage.lnkSend_Click(Object sender, 
EventArgs e) at Ipswitch.Web.Client.ImageLinkButton.OnBtnLink_Click(Object 
sender, EventArgs e) at System.Web.UI.WebControls.LinkButton.OnClick(EventArgs 
e) at 
System.Web.UI.WebControls.LinkButton.System.Web.UI.IPostBackEventHandler.RaisePostBackEvent(String
 eventArgument) at System.Web.UI.Page.RaisePostBackEvent(IPostBackEventHandler 
sourceControl, String eventArgument) at 
System.Web.UI.Page.RaisePostBackEvent(NameValueCollection postData) at 
System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain()

Will David

*\*-Original Message-*\*From: Dave Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
11/1/2006 3:25:58 PM*\*To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [IMail Forum] Another 2006.1 web 
mail error*\**\*

Hi again,

 

I have had two reports of this particular error in webmail, which shows up in 
the left-hand column:*\**\*An error was encountered while processing your 
request. (Return to previous page) *\*If you encounter this error again, please 
provide the following information to your network administrator to assist in 
trouble-shooting. *\*Message:*\*System error *\*StackTrace:*\*at 
Hunny.Mail.Socket.Connect(String host, Int32 port) at 
Hunny.Mail.Imap4Client.Connect(String address, Int32 port) at 
Ipswitch.Web.Mail.Imap4Connection..ctor(IUser user) at 
Ipswitch.Web.Mail.Imap4Folder.get_UnreadCount() at 
Ipswitch.Web.Client.FolderTree.ProcessMailFolderList(ArrayList folders, Nodes 
level) at Ipswitch.Web.Client.FolderTree.ProcessMailFolders(IUser user) at 
Ipswitch.Web.Client.FolderTree.Page_Load(Object sender, EventArgs e) at 
System.Web.UI.Control.OnLoad(EventArgs e) at 
System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() at System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() 
at System.Web.UI.Control.AddedControl(Control control, Int32 index) at 
System.Web.UI.ControlCollection.Add(Control child) at 
Infragistics.WebUI.UltraWebListbar.UltraWebListbar.CreateChildControls() at 
System.Web.UI.Control.EnsureChildControls() at 
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() at 
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() at 
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() at 
System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain()*\**\*Is anyone else experiencing these 
errors?*\**\*-Dave Doherty*\* Skywaves, Inc.*\* 508-425-7176*\* [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]

Re: [IMail Forum] Update for SMTP vulnerability in 8.22

2006-11-01 Thread Doug Traylor
All a script kiddie needs to do is point their exploit script at your 
unprotected server's IP and it's toast.  A gateway can't prevent that from 
happening.


Not true in our case.  A gateway does protect your server if it's the only 
way to get to said server.
Our gateway AV works after the ASSP proxy and intercepts all incoming email 
before Imail sees it.  Connections to Imail are only made from our AV 
gateway or internal email clients.  A script kiddie would have to use a 
non-malformed address and basically send a valid email with valid addresses 
to even get to our Imail server after all connection, recipient, and sender 
validation tests have passed the ASSP proxy and our AV gateway.  We patched 
anyway to protect against internal attacks. ;o)  I don't know how SSL and 
auth on port 587 would be affected for those sites that have external users, 
but that isn't an issue for pre 8.22 installs.  On a similar note, ASSP can 
intercept and protect against malformed addresses and such on a secondary 
listen port for the purpose of smtp auth and can route it to Imail listening 
on 587 or any other ip:port you like.  Unfortunately, it can not handle SSL 
connections for this purpose.


All that being said, I'll have to worry when an exploit is found for my SMTP 
AV gateway, or ASSP. :o)


Doug Traylor

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Re: [IMail Forum] 2006.1 login changes?

2006-11-01 Thread Mike N
Title: 2006.1 login changes?



Yes, you have to add a new field - if you are using 
the sso.html field as follows -

loginhtml = 
loginhtml.replace('name="hdnPwdChanged"', 'name="hdnPwdChanged" 
value="yes"');


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  Hosting 
  To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com 
  
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 12:26 
  PM
  Subject: [IMail Forum] 2006.1 login 
  changes?
  
  Were there any changes to the login pages from 
  2006.04a to 2006.1? One of our clients uses an extranet that logs users into 
  imail from a link.
  Thanks, 
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Re: [IMail Forum] Update for SMTP vulnerability in 8.22

2006-11-01 Thread Matt
I think that I was pretty clear about this in the sentence before the 
one that you quoted.  Most people running IMail do not have the option 
of blocking access to SMTP (service providers for instance), and as long 
as one can get to the SMTP service and the SMTP service is not patched, 
it can be hacked.


I was clarifying this again because of a good deal of confusion before 
about gateways stopping the exploits.  They can help mask one's system, 
but the only way to actually prevent the vulnerability is to either 
patch or remove all SMTP access from such a server, at least to the 
Internet.  There are no SMTP Auth settings for IMail 8.x, and I'm not 
sure that IMail 9.x is protected on the SMTP Auth port without this 
patch anyway.  Those that need to leave SMTP access open to the Internet 
must either patch or use a proxy AND also firewall their server from the 
Internet.


Those looking at a gateway specifically to resolve this issue will 
mostly not find a complete solution due to not being able to firewall 
their servers from the Internet.


Matt



Doug Traylor wrote:


All a script kiddie needs to do is point their exploit script at your 
unprotected server's IP and it's toast.  A gateway can't prevent that 
from happening.


Not true in our case.  A gateway does protect your server if it's the 
only way to get to said server.
Our gateway AV works after the ASSP proxy and intercepts all incoming 
email before Imail sees it.  Connections to Imail are only made from 
our AV gateway or internal email clients.  A script kiddie would have 
to use a non-malformed address and basically send a valid email with 
valid addresses to even get to our Imail server after all connection, 
recipient, and sender validation tests have passed the ASSP proxy and 
our AV gateway.  We patched anyway to protect against internal 
attacks. ;o)  I don't know how SSL and auth on port 587 would be 
affected for those sites that have external users, but that isn't an 
issue for pre 8.22 installs.  On a similar note, ASSP can intercept 
and protect against malformed addresses and such on a secondary listen 
port for the purpose of smtp auth and can route it to Imail listening 
on 587 or any other ip:port you like.  Unfortunately, it can not 
handle SSL connections for this purpose.


All that being said, I'll have to worry when an exploit is found for 
my SMTP AV gateway, or ASSP. :o)


Doug Traylor

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Re: [IMail Forum] Update for SMTP vulnerability in 8.22

2006-11-01 Thread Len Conrad


I think that I was pretty clear about this in the sentence before 
the one that you quoted.


with an front-end MX like IMGate taking raw Internet inbound, you can 
really shut down via firewall access to the SMTP service, almost 
completely hardending the SMTP service against attacks.


1. the firewall :

a. permits access to Imail port 587 for SMTP-AUTH only.

b. re-directs Imail port 25 to Imail port 587.

 Those looking at a gateway specifically to resolve this issue will 
mostly not find a complete solution due to not being able to firewall 
their servers from the Internet.


Exactly. Anyone not running packet-filtering firewall in front of 
them mail system is really asking for trouble.


Len


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Re: [IMail Forum] Re: [IMail Forum] Another 2006.1 web mail error

2006-11-01 Thread Dave Doherty

Thanks, Will. Good to know.

-d


- Original Message - 
From: Will David [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 12:36 PM
Subject: [IMail Forum] Re: [IMail Forum] Another 2006.1 web mail error


Dave,

By conincidence I have had two similar errors reported to me this afternoon 
like this.  The error is copied below.


I'll log it with Ipswitch and see what they have to say.  But you are not 
alone!



An error was encountered while processing your request. (Return to previous 
page)
If you encounter this error again, please provide the following information 
to your network administrator to assist in trouble-shooting.


Message:Object reference not set to an instance of an object.

StackTrace:
at Ipswitch.Web.Mail.Imap4Address.BuildFromAddress(IUser imapUser, String 
charset) at Ipswitch.Web.Client.ComposeMessage.lnkSend_Click(Object sender, 
EventArgs e) at Ipswitch.Web.Client.ImageLinkButton.OnBtnLink_Click(Object 
sender, EventArgs e) at 
System.Web.UI.WebControls.LinkButton.OnClick(EventArgs e) at 
System.Web.UI.WebControls.LinkButton.System.Web.UI.IPostBackEventHandler.RaisePostBackEvent(String 
eventArgument) at 
System.Web.UI.Page.RaisePostBackEvent(IPostBackEventHandler sourceControl, 
String eventArgument) at 
System.Web.UI.Page.RaisePostBackEvent(NameValueCollection postData) at 
System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain()


Will David

*\*-Original Message-*\*From: Dave Doherty 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/1/2006 3:25:58 PM*\*To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: [IMail Forum] Another 2006.1 web 
mail error*\**\*


Hi again,



I have had two reports of this particular error in webmail, which shows up 
in the left-hand column:*\**\*An error was encountered while processing your 
request. (Return to previous page) *\*If you encounter this error again, 
please provide the following information to your network administrator to 
assist in trouble-shooting. *\*Message:*\*System error *\*StackTrace:*\*at 
Hunny.Mail.Socket.Connect(String host, Int32 port) at 
Hunny.Mail.Imap4Client.Connect(String address, Int32 port) at 
Ipswitch.Web.Mail.Imap4Connection..ctor(IUser user) at 
Ipswitch.Web.Mail.Imap4Folder.get_UnreadCount() at 
Ipswitch.Web.Client.FolderTree.ProcessMailFolderList(ArrayList folders, 
Nodes level) at Ipswitch.Web.Client.FolderTree.ProcessMailFolders(IUser 
user) at Ipswitch.Web.Client.FolderTree.Page_Load(Object sender, EventArgs 
e) at System.Web.UI.Control.OnLoad(EventArgs e) at 
System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() at 
System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() at 
System.Web.UI.Control.AddedControl(Control control, Int32 index) at 
System.Web.UI.ControlCollection.Add(Control child) at 
Infragistics.WebUI.UltraWebListbar.UltraWebListbar.CreateChildControls() at 
System.Web.UI.Control.EnsureChildControls() at 
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() at 
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() at 
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() at 
System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain()*\**\*Is anyone else experiencing 
these errors?*\**\*-Dave Doherty*\* Skywaves, Inc.*\* 508-425-7176*\* 
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Re: [IMail Forum] Update for SMTP vulnerability in 8.22

2006-11-01 Thread Matt

Len, et. al,

IMail 8.x does not support Auth-only on any port, so it is not possible 
to just simply work around the vulnerability in this way.


I agree that forcing SMTP Auth on the server itself would be best, while 
leaving the MX related stuff to the gateway.  Redirecting 25 to 587 on a 
9.x server and forcing Auth would be best, but this setup requires port 
redirection on a firewall so it is not a feature of a gateway, but it is 
enabled by a gateway.  The one caveat here is that IMail 9.x only allows 
SMTP Auth connections when this is configured, the allow relay IP's 
cannot be used with this.  I do hope that Ipswitch makes a change that 
also enables IP's to be specified in the place of logins when forcing 
SMTP Auth.


I do not know that on vulnerable versions of 9.x where SMTP Auth is 
supported, would be protected from the exploit by forcing Auth.  I 
certainly wouldn't assume this to be the case without verification.  For 
those on 9.x, the upgrade to 9.1 is mostly not an issue and the upgrade 
path is clear.  For those that are on 8.2x, the upgrade path is also clear.


For those that don't have an upgrade path to at least 8.22 with the 
patch and need SMTP access to the Internet, they will need at least a 
proxy/relay for client access, a gateway for MX traffic and their box 
firewalled.  You only need a gateway and a firewall if you don't need 
SMTP access to the Internet for your own users like Doug, but this setup 
is not common with IMail users.  The only other solution would be IDS 
and a definition for the exploit (there might already be generic ones 
that exist on these systems as the exploit uses invalid characters in 
the domain name portion of the address).


Alligate is the only gateway product that I am aware of that can also be 
setup to proxy/relay SMTP Auth in real-time back to the server, but I 
wouldn't recommend this configuration for just simply fixing this bug.  
I believe that this capability exists in the product in order to ease 
the transition to a gateway since most use the same names for MX and 
SMTP access, but it is best to have these things be separate in which 
case there should normally be no need to proxy/relay one's own customers 
accessing SMTP.  I'm sure there are other solutions for this in at least 
Linux, but I am not familiar with them, and I don't believe that there 
are any mainstream products available.


Matt




Len Conrad wrote:



I think that I was pretty clear about this in the sentence before the 
one that you quoted.


with an front-end MX like IMGate taking raw Internet inbound, you can 
really shut down via firewall access to the SMTP service, almost 
completely hardending the SMTP service against attacks.


1. the firewall :

a. permits access to Imail port 587 for SMTP-AUTH only.

b. re-directs Imail port 25 to Imail port 587.

 Those looking at a gateway specifically to resolve this issue will 
mostly not find a complete solution due to not being able to firewall 
their servers from the Internet.


Exactly. Anyone not running packet-filtering firewall in front of them 
mail system is really asking for trouble.


Len


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RE: [IMail Forum] 2006.1 login changes?

2006-11-01 Thread Jim F.
Title: 2006.1 login changes?



Hi Mike,

When I use the password stored in Firefox (it's the correct password) 
login fails.I have to manually type the password, and it's 
annoying. I'm guessing the code you posted has something to do with 
that.

However, when I search the web directory for 'sso.html' or 
'hdnPwdChanged', nothing comes up. Where is this value 
set?

Thanks,
Jim Frasch
2006.1


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike 
NSent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 12:44 PMTo: 
Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.comSubject: Re: [IMail Forum] 2006.1 login 
changes?

Yes, you have to add a new field - if you are using 
the sso.html field as follows -
 
loginhtml = 
loginhtml.replace('name="hdnPwdChanged"', 'name="hdnPwdChanged" 
value="yes"');


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Matrosity 
  Hosting 
  To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com 
  
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 12:26 
  PM
  Subject: [IMail Forum] 2006.1 login 
  changes?
  
  Were there any changes to the login pages from 
  2006.04a to 2006.1? One of our clients uses an extranet that logs users into 
  imail from a link.
  Thanks, 
  Bill Foresman Matrosity Hosting www.matrosity.com 850.656.2644 


Re: [IMail Forum] 2006.1 login changes?

2006-11-01 Thread Mike N
Title: 2006.1 login changes?




 Jim,
 The sso.html only applies if you have 
implemented single signon or have a client who wants to log in from an external 
or heavily branded page - following the sample technique at http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-20051206-DM06.htm

 You're right, the new 
hdnPwdChanged field is causing the browser's password to be ignored. The 
solution is to check the boxes "remember my username" and "remember my password" 
on the login screen. Then it accepts the browser's stored 
password.


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jim F. 
  To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 3:16 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] 2006.1 login 
  changes?
  
  Hi Mike,
  
  When I use the password stored in Firefox (it's the correct password) 
  login fails.I have to manually type the password, and it's 
  annoying. I'm guessing the code you posted has something to do with 
  that.
  
  However, when I search the web directory for 'sso.html' or 
  'hdnPwdChanged', nothing comes up. Where is this value 
  set?
  
  Thanks,
  Jim Frasch
  2006.1
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike 
  NSent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 12:44 PMTo: 
  Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.comSubject: Re: [IMail Forum] 2006.1 
  login changes?
  
  Yes, you have to add a new field - if you are 
  using the sso.html field as follows -
   
  loginhtml = 
  loginhtml.replace('name="hdnPwdChanged"', 'name="hdnPwdChanged" 
  value="yes"');
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Matrosity 
Hosting 
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com 

Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 
12:26 PM
Subject: [IMail Forum] 2006.1 login 
changes?

Were there any changes to the login pages from 
2006.04a to 2006.1? One of our clients uses an extranet that logs users into 
imail from a link.
Thanks, 
Bill Foresman Matrosity Hosting www.matrosity.com 850.656.2644 


RE: [IMail Forum] 2006.1 login changes? / Single Sign-On

2006-11-01 Thread Jim F.
Title: 2006.1 login changes?



Thanks Mike.

Has anyone implemented this so that the username  password aren't 
displayed in the address bar? At the very least using POST instead of GET 
when calling sso.html?

Thanks,
Jim Frasch


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike 
NSent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 3:28 PMTo: 
Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.comSubject: Re: [IMail Forum] 2006.1 login 
changes?


 Jim,
 The sso.html only applies if you have 
implemented single signon or have a client who wants to log in from an external 
or heavily branded page - following the sample technique at http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-20051206-DM06.htm

 You're right, the new 
hdnPwdChanged field is causing the browser's password to be ignored. The 
solution is to check the boxes "remember my username" and "remember my password" 
on the login screen. Then it accepts the browser's stored 
password.


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jim F. 
  To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 3:16 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] 2006.1 login 
  changes?
  
  Hi Mike,
  
  When I use the password stored in Firefox (it's the correct password) 
  login fails.I have to manually type the password, and it's 
  annoying. I'm guessing the code you posted has something to do with 
  that.
  
  However, when I search the web directory for 'sso.html' or 
  'hdnPwdChanged', nothing comes up. Where is this value 
  set?
  
  Thanks,
  Jim Frasch
  2006.1
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike 
  NSent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 12:44 PMTo: 
  Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.comSubject: Re: [IMail Forum] 2006.1 
  login changes?
  
  Yes, you have to add a new field - if you are 
  using the sso.html field as follows -
   
  loginhtml = 
  loginhtml.replace('name="hdnPwdChanged"', 'name="hdnPwdChanged" 
  value="yes"');
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Matrosity 
Hosting 
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com 

Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 
12:26 PM
Subject: [IMail Forum] 2006.1 login 
changes?

Were there any changes to the login pages from 
2006.04a to 2006.1? One of our clients uses an extranet that logs users into 
imail from a link.
Thanks, 
Bill Foresman Matrosity Hosting www.matrosity.com 850.656.2644 


RE: [IMail Forum] 2006.1 login changes? / Single Sign-On

2006-11-01 Thread Jim F.
Title: 2006.1 login changes?



I 
would be interested in that too.

I 
worked something up in PHP where the login form used POST and then there was a 
header redirect to sso.html, but the logon information still appeared in the 
address bar for a split-second while sso.html did its 
magic.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike 
NSent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 4:22 PMTo: 
Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.comSubject: Re: [IMail Forum] 2006.1 login 
changes? / Single Sign-On

I don't believe it is possible to implement 
sso.html as a POST - the server won't pass the POST databack to 
sso.htmlso that the _javascript_ can access it.

 I ended up implementing it in ASP 
where the enclosing ASP fills out sso.html based on the POSTed data. Let 
me know if that would be useful and I'll try to come up with a stripped down 
version to post in the next few days.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jim F. 
  To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 4:07 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] 2006.1 login 
  changes? / Single Sign-On
  
  Thanks Mike.
  
  Has anyone implemented this so that the username  password aren't 
  displayed in the address bar? At the very least using POST instead of 
  GET when calling sso.html?
  
  Thanks,
  Jim Frasch
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike 
  NSent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 3:28 PMTo: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.comSubject: 
  Re: [IMail Forum] 2006.1 login changes?
  
  
   Jim,
   The sso.html only applies if you 
  have implemented single signon or have a client who wants to log in from an 
  external or heavily branded page - following the sample technique at http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-20051206-DM06.htm
  
   You're right, the new 
  hdnPwdChanged field is causing the browser's password to be ignored. The 
  solution is to check the boxes "remember my username" and "remember my 
  password" on the login screen. Then it accepts the browser's 
  stored password.
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Jim F. 
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com 

Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 3:16 
PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] 2006.1 login 
changes?

Hi Mike,

When I use the password stored in Firefox (it's the correct password) 
login fails.I have to manually type the password, and it's 
annoying. I'm guessing the code you posted has something to do with 
that.

However, when I search the web directory for 'sso.html' or 
'hdnPwdChanged', nothing comes up. Where is this value 
set?

Thanks,
Jim Frasch
2006.1


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike 
NSent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 12:44 PMTo: 
Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.comSubject: Re: [IMail Forum] 2006.1 
login changes?

Yes, you have to add a new field - if you are 
using the sso.html field as follows -
 
loginhtml = 
loginhtml.replace('name="hdnPwdChanged"', 'name="hdnPwdChanged" 
value="yes"');


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Matrosity Hosting 
  To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com 
  
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 
  12:26 PM
  Subject: [IMail Forum] 2006.1 login 
  changes?
  
  Were there any changes to the login pages from 
  2006.04a to 2006.1? One of our clients uses an extranet that logs users 
  into imail from a link.
  Thanks, 
  Bill Foresman Matrosity Hosting www.matrosity.com 850.656.2644 



RE: [IMail Forum] Symantec Antivirus Scan Engine

2006-11-01 Thread Kurt Stocker








Yes I
have Premium AntiSpam and I give it a medium at best



This
past week I have had too many Virus get past this engine and then some are
stopped on the desktop by a desktop version of Symantec. You would think
that a server edition would work better than a desk top version.



I am
scared that too many are getting in. I am looking at other
options to protect my computers. I just spent hours fighting a
virus that got in that was missed by Symantec. Trend Micro did find it on
the desktop.



It was
missed by the Premium AntiVirus



Kurt













From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Deborah Chard
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006
4:02 PM
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: [IMail Forum] Symantec
Antivirus Scan Engine





I
have 2006.1 with the Premium AntiSpam and the Symantec Antivirus scan engine. I
had been running Imail 8.15 and I wont go on about all the problems I
have run into trying to get this up and running. After convincing IMail
that I needed an evaluation license for the Antivirus Scan Engine before I even
considered upgrading to the Secure Server and giving up my current antivirus, I
cant tell if Antivirus is scanning anything. The Symantec
Antivirus Scan Engine Status screen indicates that 0 total files and 0 total MB
have been scanned. I find nothing in the Windows Server log files
indicating that anything has been scanned, nor do I find anything in the IMail
logs or Symantec logs to indicate that anything was being scanned. 



The
support team has been unable to help.



Is
anyone out there using the Symantec Antivirus scan engine? If so, any
thoughts I what could be going on here? I am running this with the
default configuration, nothing fancy.



Thanks



Deb
Chard

SysAdmin

ILX
Lightwave








Re: [IMail Forum] Symantec Antivirus Scan Engine

2006-11-01 Thread Dave Doherty



Hi Deb-

I am using Symantec AntiVirus Corporate 
Edition with 2006.1 (NOT using the Premium AntiSpam), and I did use it with 
8.15. I made the transition by doing a clean installation of W2K and IM2006, not 
by upgrading in situ. I have SAV set to scan on create in the spool, and not in 
the logs or mailboxes. That has worked fine for me for several years. It shows 
over 100,000 files scanned since the last reboot a day ago or so.

-Dave DohertySkywaves, 
Inc.508-425-7176[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Deborah 
  Chard 
  To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:02 
  PM
  Subject: [IMail Forum] Symantec Antivirus 
  Scan Engine
  
  
  I 
  have 2006.1 with the Premium AntiSpam and the Symantec Antivirus scan engine. 
  I had been running Imail 8.15 and I won’t go on about all the problems I have 
  run into trying to get this up and running. After convincing IMail that 
  I needed an evaluation license for the Antivirus Scan Engine before I even 
  considered upgrading to the Secure Server and giving up my current antivirus, 
  I can’t tell if Antivirus is scanning anything. The Symantec Antivirus 
  Scan Engine Status screen indicates that 0 total files and 0 total MB have 
  been scanned. I find nothing in the Windows Server log files indicating 
  that anything has been scanned, nor do I find anything in the IMail logs or 
  Symantec logs to indicate that anything was being scanned. 
  
  
  The 
  support team has been unable to help.
  
  Is 
  anyone out there using the Symantec Antivirus scan engine? If so, any 
  thoughts I what could be going on here? I am running this with the 
  default configuration, nothing fancy.
  
  Thanks
  
  Deb 
  Chard
  SysAdmin
  ILX 
  Lightwave


[IMail Forum] Upgrading version problem

2006-11-01 Thread Goran Jovanovic








Hi,



I have been called in to do an emergency
upgrade on an iMail 2006 server that I have seen only once before. It seems to
be running 9.01 (according to the services menu in the administrator console)
which I am assuming is iMail 2006.01. Now I have downloaded the upgrades IMail 2006.03,
and .04 and .1 just in case. When I go to run any of these updates the first
message I get is 



Setup has determined that a later version is already
installed. This setup installs an earlier version.



So I looked at the files and a lot of them are dated Dec 19,
2005 which makes me believe that I am right that they are running 9.01 /
2006.01



Is there another place to confirm from within IMail Administrator
or should I just ignore the upgrade message and proceed?



Thank you





Goran
 Jovanovic

Omega Network Solutions










RE: [IMail Forum] Upgrading version problem

2006-11-01 Thread Matrosity Hosting



I would say you should apply 2006.1 since that is the only 
version of 2006 that is safe from the latest smtp problem.
Bill Foresman 
Matrosity Hosting 
www.matrosity.com 
850.656.2644 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran 
JovanovicSent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 8:25 PMTo: 
Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.comSubject: [IMail Forum] Upgrading version 
problem


Hi,

I have been called in to do an emergency 
upgrade on an iMail 2006 server that I have seen only once before. It seems to 
be running 9.01 (according to the services menu in the administrator console) 
which I am assuming is iMail 2006.01. Now I have downloaded the upgrades IMail 
2006.03, and .04 and .1 just in case. When I go to run any of these updates the 
first message I get is 

Setup has determined that a later version 
is already installed. This setup installs an earlier 
version.

So I looked at the files and a lot of them 
are dated Dec 19, 2005 which makes me believe that I am right that they are 
running 9.01 / 2006.01

Is there another place to confirm from 
within IMail Administrator or should I just ignore the upgrade message and 
proceed?

Thank you


Goran 
Jovanovic
Omega Network 
Solutions


Re: [IMail Forum] Upgrading version problem

2006-11-01 Thread Matt




There's probably an easier way (like what you tried), but right click
on the smtp32.exe file, go to properties, choose the version tab, and
then choose "Product Version" from the values there. It should be "9,
1, 0, dev_test" if it is 2006.1.

Note that Ipswitch has a funny naming convention where 2006.01 is
earlier than 2006.1. It would seem that they should maybe add a dot.

If it is really 2006.1, then maybe they have an old copy of the Webmail
interface (if it is hard coded in there).

Matt



Goran Jovanovic wrote:

  
  
  

  
  
  
  Hi,
  
  I have been called in to do an
emergency
upgrade on an iMail 2006 server that I have seen only once before. It
seems to
be running 9.01 (according to the services menu in the administrator
console)
which I am assuming is iMail 2006.01. Now I have downloaded the
upgrades IMail 2006.03,
and .04 and .1 just in case. When I go to run any of these updates the
first
message I get is 
  
  Setup has determined that a
later version is already
installed. This setup installs an earlier version.
  
  So I looked at the files and a
lot of them are dated Dec 19,
2005 which makes me believe that I am right that they are running 9.01
/
2006.01
  
  Is there another place to
confirm from within IMail Administrator
or should I just ignore the upgrade message and proceed?
  
  Thank you
  
  
  Goran
Jovanovic
  Omega
Network Solutions
  
  





RE: [IMail Forum] Upgrading version problem

2006-11-01 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Hi Matt,
 
The version of SMTPD is 9, 0, 1, 15 and it is dated Dec 19, 2005 which is 
consistent with 2006.01
 
I am on site now and have found a partial directory of 
 
C:\Program Files\Ipswitch\IMail 
which seems some leftover files from ICS. There is only one EXE file and it is 
called trial_rt.exe.
 
The SMTPD and QueueMgr program run from C:\Program Files\IMail
 
Also something is locking the ICS directory (C:\Program Files\Ipswitch\IMail) 
since I was unable to rename the \IMAIL portion.
 
This is not going to be a fun night.
 
Goran



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Matt
Sent: Wed 11/1/2006 8:44 PM
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Upgrading version problem


There's probably an easier way (like what you tried), but right click on the 
smtp32.exe file, go to properties, choose the version tab, and then choose 
Product Version from the values there.  It should be 9, 1, 0, dev_test if 
it is 2006.1.

Note that Ipswitch has a funny naming convention where 2006.01 is earlier than 
2006.1.  It would seem that they should maybe add a dot.

If it is really 2006.1, then maybe they have an old copy of the Webmail 
interface (if it is hard coded in there).

Matt



Goran Jovanovic wrote: 

Hi,

 

I have been called in to do an emergency upgrade on an iMail 2006 
server that I have seen only once before. It seems to be running 9.01 
(according to the services menu in the administrator console) which I am 
assuming is iMail 2006.01. Now I have downloaded the upgrades IMail 2006.03, 
and .04 and .1 just in case. When I go to run any of these updates the first 
message I get is 

 

Setup has determined that a later version is already installed. This 
setup installs an earlier version.

 

So I looked at the files and a lot of them are dated Dec 19, 2005 which 
makes me believe that I am right that they are running 9.01 / 2006.01

 

Is there another place to confirm from within IMail Administrator or 
should I just ignore the upgrade message and proceed?

 

Thank you

 

Goran Jovanovic

Omega Network Solutions

winmail.dat

RE: [IMail Forum] Upgrading version problem

2006-11-01 Thread John T \(Lists\)
Goran, if you can look through the services and see if anything from
Ipswitch or Imail is there.

 

If that does not help, restart in safe mode and rename the directory and
restart and check the event logs for what did not start.

 

Also, review the msconfig file.

 

I'll be around after 10 PM mine 1 AM yours if you need me. I hope you are
done by then.

 

John T

eServices For You

 

Life is a succession of lessons which must be lived to be understood.

Ralph Waldo Emerson (1802-1882)

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Goran Jovanovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Goran Jovanovic
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 6:06 PM
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Upgrading version problem

 

Hi Matt,

 

The version of SMTPD is 9, 0, 1, 15 and it is dated Dec 19, 2005 which is
consistent with 2006.01

 

I am on site now and have found a partial directory of 

 

C:\Program Files\Ipswitch\IMail 

which seems some leftover files from ICS. There is only one EXE file and it
is called trial_rt.exe.

 

The SMTPD and QueueMgr program run from C:\Program Files\IMail

 

Also something is locking the ICS directory (C:\Program
Files\Ipswitch\IMail) since I was unable to rename the \IMAIL portion.

 

This is not going to be a fun night.

 

Goran

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Matt
Sent: Wed 11/1/2006 8:44 PM
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Upgrading version problem

There's probably an easier way (like what you tried), but right click on the
smtp32.exe file, go to properties, choose the version tab, and then choose
Product Version from the values there.  It should be 9, 1, 0, dev_test
if it is 2006.1.

Note that Ipswitch has a funny naming convention where 2006.01 is earlier
than 2006.1.  It would seem that they should maybe add a dot.

If it is really 2006.1, then maybe they have an old copy of the Webmail
interface (if it is hard coded in there).

Matt



Goran Jovanovic wrote: 

Hi,

 

I have been called in to do an emergency upgrade on an iMail 2006 server
that I have seen only once before. It seems to be running 9.01 (according to
the services menu in the administrator console) which I am assuming is iMail
2006.01. Now I have downloaded the upgrades IMail 2006.03, and .04 and .1
just in case. When I go to run any of these updates the first message I get
is 

 

Setup has determined that a later version is already installed. This setup
installs an earlier version.

 

So I looked at the files and a lot of them are dated Dec 19, 2005 which
makes me believe that I am right that they are running 9.01 / 2006.01

 

Is there another place to confirm from within IMail Administrator or should
I just ignore the upgrade message and proceed?

 

Thank you

 

Goran Jovanovic

Omega Network Solutions

attachment: winmail.dat

RE: [IMail Forum] Upgrading version problem

2006-11-01 Thread Goran Jovanovic








Let me share with you what happened. The short answer is
that I have upgraded to 2006.1 and everything seems to be working.



There were two items giving me grief.

1  There seemed to be a previous installation of ICS 

2  The upgrade files were going to downgrade my
installation



This server was once an iMail 8.2x server. At that time it
had everything installed to C:\Program Files\IMail. Then last December it was
upgraded in place to IMail 2006 and patch .01 was applied. What this ended up
doing is upgrading the core programs in the above directory but all the new web
stuff went into C:\Program Files\Ipswitch\IMail and that is where the ICS files
were. Since I was coming into this server blind this caused me concern
especially when coupled with the #2 problem above. I thought that I have a
mixed install of ICS and IMail. Turns out I did not and it is like this because
it was an upgraded 8.2x



The second problem drove me nuts. I finally figured it out
and I believe I have discovered an install bug. I knew I had version 9.01
installed. The version in IMail Services said so and so did the version number
on the properties of SMTPD32.exe and the dates were Dec 19, 2005. So why did
the upgrade patch tell me that it was going to install an older version of
IMail? After some digging I decided that the Install message was simply
incorrect since I got the same error message when I tried to run the .03 or .04
or .1 patch. Just to be safe I zipped the two imail directories and exported
the IMail registry. I ran the 2006.1 patch, ignored the warning, everything
worked. Smooth. Well until I looked at the IMail services. I was now at
9.0 Bad news. I tried to run the .04 patch and this time I got to the Repair
or Remove screen. To make the long and frustrating story short the problem was
where I had the original and patch files.



C:\Software\iMailServer2006\IMail.exe  this is the original 2006 installation
file

C:\Software\iMailServer2006\iMail 2006.01\imail200601.exe
 2006.01 patch file

C:\Software\iMailServer2006\iMail 2006.04\imail200604a.exe
 2006.04a patch file

C:\Software\iMailServer2006\iMail 2006.1\imail.exe
 2006.1 patch file



The problem was the space between iMail and 2006 AND the
fact that there is a file called imail.exe in the directory above the patches



If I changed the directory to 

C:\Software\iMailServer2006\iMail2006.1\imail.exe (no
space) then the patch would work fine



If I moved C:\Software\iMailServer2006\IMail.exe to C:\Software\iMailServer2006\IMail
2006\IMail.exe and then ran the patch from 

C:\Software\iMailServer2006\iMail 2006.1\imail.exe then I
did not have the problem.



Something about installshield breaks with the combination of
the space in the patch directory which isolates the word imail and the fact
that there is an imail.exe in the directory above (original file) so it invokes
the partial directory name.exe from the above directory.



Hopefully I have explained myself well and people will not
create the weird combination that I did and suffer the same problems.



What a pain.





Goran Jovanovic

Omega Network Solutions















From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006
9:06 PM
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum]
Upgrading version problem









Hi Matt,











The version of SMTPD is 9, 0, 1, 15 and it is dated Dec 19, 2005 which
is consistent with 2006.01











I am on site now and have found a partial directory of 











C:\Program Files\Ipswitch\IMail 





which seems some leftover files from ICS. There is only one EXE file
and it is called trial_rt.exe.











The SMTPD and QueueMgr program run from C:\Program Files\IMail











Also something is locking the ICS directory (C:\Program
Files\Ipswitch\IMail) since I was unable to rename the \IMAIL portion.











This is not going to be a fun night.











Goran















From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Matt
Sent: Wed 11/1/2006 8:44 PM
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum]
Upgrading version problem





There's probably an easier way (like what you tried), but right click
on the smtp32.exe file, go to properties, choose the version tab, and then
choose Product Version from the values there. It should be
9, 1, 0, dev_test if it is 2006.1.

Note that Ipswitch has a funny naming convention where 2006.01 is earlier than
2006.1. It would seem that they should maybe add a dot.

If it is really 2006.1, then maybe they have an old copy of the Webmail
interface (if it is hard coded in there).

Matt



 Goran Jovanovic wrote: 

Hi,



I have been called in to do an emergency
upgrade on an iMail 2006 server that I have seen only once before. It seems to
be running 9.01 (according to the services menu in the administrator console)
which I am assuming is iMail 2006.01. Now I have downloaded the upgrades IMail
2006.03, and .04 and .1 just in case. 

Re: [IMail Forum] Upgrading version problem

2006-11-01 Thread Dave Doherty



Wow, what a mess.

I am SO glad I did my install ona new 
box.

-d



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Goran Jovanovic 
  To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com 
  
  Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 1:06 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Upgrading 
  version problem
  
  
  Let me share with you what happened. The 
  short answer is that I have upgraded to 2006.1 and everything seems to be 
  working.
  
  There were two items giving me 
  grief.
  1 – There seemed to be a previous 
  installation of ICS 
  2 – The upgrade files were going to 
  downgrade my installation
  
  This server was once an iMail 8.2x 
  server. At that time it had everything installed to C:\Program Files\IMail. 
  Then last December it was upgraded in place to IMail 2006 and patch .01 was 
  applied. What this ended up doing is upgrading the core programs in the above 
  directory but all the new web stuff went into C:\Program Files\Ipswitch\IMail 
  and that is where the ICS files were. Since I was coming into this server 
  blind this caused me concern especially when coupled with the #2 problem 
  above. I thought that I have a mixed install of ICS and IMail. Turns out I did 
  not and it is like this because it was an upgraded 8.2x
  
  The second problem drove me nuts. I 
  finally figured it out and I believe I have discovered an install bug. I knew 
  I had version 9.01 installed. The version in IMail Services said so and so did 
  the version number on the properties of SMTPD32.exe and the dates were Dec 19, 
  2005. So why did the upgrade patch tell me that it was going to install an 
  older version of IMail? After some digging I decided that the Install message 
  was simply incorrect since I got the same error message when I tried to run 
  the .03 or .04 or .1 patch. Just to be safe I zipped the two imail directories 
  and exported the IMail registry. I ran the 2006.1 patch, ignored the warning, 
  everything worked. Smooth…. Well until I looked at the IMail services. I was 
  now at 9.0 Bad news. I tried to run the .04 patch and this time I got to 
  the Repair or Remove screen. To make the long and frustrating story short the 
  problem was where I had the original and patch files.
  
  C:\Software\iMailServer2006\IMail.exe 
  ç this is the 
  original 2006 installation file
  C:\Software\iMailServer2006\iMail 
  2006.01\imail200601.exe ç 2006.01 patch 
  file
  C:\Software\iMailServer2006\iMail 
  2006.04\imail200604a.exe ç 2006.04a patch 
  file
  C:\Software\iMailServer2006\iMail 
  2006.1\imail.exe ç 2006.1 patch 
  file
  
  The problem was the space between iMail 
  and 2006 AND the fact that there is a file called imail.exe in the directory 
  above the patches
  
  If I changed the directory to 
  
  C:\Software\iMailServer2006\iMail2006.1\imail.exe 
  (no space) then the patch would work fine
  
  If I moved 
  C:\Software\iMailServer2006\IMail.exe to C:\Software\iMailServer2006\IMail 
  2006\IMail.exe and then ran the patch from 
  C:\Software\iMailServer2006\iMail 
  2006.1\imail.exe then I did not have the problem.
  
  Something about installshield breaks with 
  the combination of the space in the patch directory which isolates the word 
  imail and the fact that there is an imail.exe in the directory above (original 
  file) so it invokes the partial directory name.exe from the above 
  directory.
  
  Hopefully I have explained myself well 
  and people will not create the weird combination that I did and suffer the 
  same problems.
  
  What a pain….
  
  
  Goran 
  Jovanovic
  Omega Network 
  Solutions
  
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran JovanovicSent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:06 
  PMTo: 
  Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.comSubject: RE: [IMail Forum] Upgrading 
  version problem
  
  
  
  Hi Matt,
  
  
  
  The version of SMTPD is 9, 0, 1, 15 and it is dated 
  Dec 19, 2005 which is consistent with 2006.01
  
  
  
  I am on site now and have found a partial directory of 
  
  
  
  
  C:\Program Files\Ipswitch\IMail 
  
  
  which seems some leftover files from ICS. There is 
  only one EXE file and it is called trial_rt.exe.
  
  
  
  The SMTPD and QueueMgr program run from C:\Program 
  Files\IMail
  
  
  
  Also something is locking the ICS directory 
  (C:\Program Files\Ipswitch\IMail) since I was unable to rename the \IMAIL 
  portion.
  
  
  
  This is not going to be a fun 
  night.
  
  
  
  Goran
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of MattSent: Wed 11/1/2006 8:44 PMTo: 
  Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.comSubject: Re: [IMail Forum] Upgrading 
  version problem
  
  There's probably an easier way (like what you tried), 
  but right click on the smtp32.exe file, go to properties, choose the version 
  tab, and then choose "Product Version" from the values there. It should 
  be "9, 1, 0, dev_test" if it is 2006.1.Note that Ipswitch has a funny 
  naming convention where 2006.01 is earlier than 

RE: [IMail Forum] Upgrading version problem

2006-11-01 Thread John T \(Lists\)








Yes, I have seen problems with an older
version of PaperPort which installed with a  %1 in several
registry keys which later led to problems uninstalling other programs that were
installed before PaperPort but still used InstallationShield for the
installation build.





John T

eServices For You



Life is a succession
of lessons which must be lived to be understood.

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(1802-1882)









-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 10:07 PM
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum]
Upgrading version problem



Let me share with you what happened. The short answer is that
I have upgraded to 2006.1 and everything seems to be working.



There were two items giving me grief.

1  There seemed to be a previous installation of ICS 

2  The upgrade files were going to downgrade my
installation



This server was once an iMail 8.2x server. At that time it
had everything installed to C:\Program Files\IMail. Then last December it was
upgraded in place to IMail 2006 and patch .01 was applied. What this ended up
doing is upgrading the core programs in the above directory but all the new web
stuff went into C:\Program Files\Ipswitch\IMail and that is where the ICS files
were. Since I was coming into this server blind this caused me concern
especially when coupled with the #2 problem above. I thought that I have a
mixed install of ICS and IMail. Turns out I did not and it is like this because
it was an upgraded 8.2x



The second problem drove me nuts. I finally figured it out
and I believe I have discovered an install bug. I knew I had version 9.01
installed. The version in IMail Services said so and so did the version number
on the properties of SMTPD32.exe and the dates were Dec 19, 2005. So why did the
upgrade patch tell me that it was going to install an older version of IMail?
After some digging I decided that the Install message was simply incorrect
since I got the same error message when I tried to run the .03 or .04 or .1
patch. Just to be safe I zipped the two imail directories and exported the
IMail registry. I ran the 2006.1 patch, ignored the warning, everything worked.
Smooth. Well until I looked at the IMail services. I was now at 9.0 Bad
news. I tried to run the .04 patch and this time I got to the Repair or
Remove screen. To make the long and frustrating story short the problem was
where I had the original and patch files.



C:\Software\iMailServer2006\IMail.exe  this is the original 2006 installation
file

C:\Software\iMailServer2006\iMail
2006.01\imail200601.exe  2006.01 patch file

C:\Software\iMailServer2006\iMail
2006.04\imail200604a.exe  2006.04a patch
file

C:\Software\iMailServer2006\iMail
2006.1\imail.exe  2006.1 patch file



The problem was the space between iMail and 2006 AND the
fact that there is a file called imail.exe in the directory above the patches



If I changed the directory to 

C:\Software\iMailServer2006\iMail2006.1\imail.exe (no
space) then the patch would work fine



If I moved C:\Software\iMailServer2006\IMail.exe to
C:\Software\iMailServer2006\IMail 2006\IMail.exe and then ran the patch from 

C:\Software\iMailServer2006\iMail 2006.1\imail.exe then I
did not have the problem.



Something about installshield breaks with the combination of
the space in the patch directory which isolates the word imail and the fact
that there is an imail.exe in the directory above (original file) so it invokes
the partial directory name.exe from the above directory.



Hopefully I have explained myself well and people will not
create the weird combination that I did and suffer the same problems.



What a pain.





Goran Jovanovic

Omega Network Solutions















From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:06 PM
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum]
Upgrading version problem









Hi Matt,











The version of SMTPD is 9, 0, 1, 15 and it is dated Dec 19, 2005 which is consistent with 2006.01











I am on site now and have found a partial directory of 











C:\Program Files\Ipswitch\IMail 





which seems some leftover files from ICS. There is only one EXE file
and it is called trial_rt.exe.











The SMTPD and QueueMgr program run from C:\Program Files\IMail











Also something is locking the ICS directory (C:\Program Files\Ipswitch\IMail)
since I was unable to rename the \IMAIL portion.











This is not going to be a fun night.











Goran















From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Matt
Sent: Wed 11/1/2006 8:44 PM
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum]
Upgrading version problem





There's probably an easier way (like what you tried), but right click
on the smtp32.exe file, go to properties, choose the version tab, and then
choose Product Version from the values there.