[efloraofindia:454929] Re: Arisaema jacquemontii Blume

2023-09-13 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Not jacquemontii but most likely Arisaema flavum. From: Saroj Kasaju Date: Monday, 11 September 2023 at 16:59 To: efloraindia , J.M. Garg , Pascal Bruggeman Subject: Arisaema jacquemontii Blume Dear Members, Location: Chobhar, Kathmandu, Nepal Date: 10 August 2023 Altitude: 1500m. Habitat

Re: [efloraofindia:448421] MS, May, 2023/04 Arisaema sp. for id.

2023-06-05 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
That falls within the variation of Arisaema consanguineum, I agree with Saroj Kasaju. Pascal From: J.M. Garg Date: Monday, 5 June 2023 at 07:11 To: efloraofindia Cc: M Sawmliana , Saroj Kasaju , Tabish Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:447869] MS, May, 2023/04 Arisaema sp. for id. Forwarding

Re: [efloraofindia:442799] Need help with ID -- Araceae?

2023-02-27 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Sauromatum venosum in bud (or what is left of the bud) Pascal From: J.M. Garg Date: Monday, 27 February 2023 at 12:08 To: efloraofindia Cc: Fazal Rashid Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:442602] Need help with ID -- Araceae? Forwarding again for Id assistance please. -- Forwarded

[efloraofindia:437649] Re: SK 3657 04 December 2022

2022-12-05 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Given the late ripening, shape and short peduncle most likely Arisaema speciosum. But with the caveat that identifications based on fruits only are tricky. Pascal From: Saroj Kasaju Date: Sunday, 4 December 2022 at 16:48 To: efloraindia , J.M. Garg , Pascal Bruggeman Subject: Re: SK 3657 04

Re: [efloraofindia:437525] Img 1122

2022-12-04 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
This is tortuosum based on leaves and shape/order of ripening of the fruits and yes, that is reported from Western Ghats, it even occurs in Sri Lanka. It is one of the most widespread species in the genus. Pascal From: J.M. Garg Date: Sunday, 4 December 2022 at 13:25 To: efloraofindia Cc:

Re: [efloraofindia:432821] I'd needed for this plant

2022-09-19 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Considering the locality, leaflet shape & fruitshape, the W Himalayan form of Arisaema tortuosum is the most likely ID. Pascal From: J.M. Garg Date: Monday, 19 September 2022 at 18:25 To: Saroj Kasaju Cc: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com , Seema Bin Zeenat Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:432567]

Re: [efloraofindia:427781] Need help with Araceae ID

2022-07-10 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Looks like Armophophallus longiconnectivus. Pascal From: J.M. Garg Date: Sunday, 10 July 2022 at 15:19 To: efloraofindia Cc: Fazal Rashid Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:427160] Need help with Araceae ID Forwarding again for Id assistance please. -- Forwarded message - From:

[efloraofindia:423014] Re: SK 3464 08 May 2022

2022-05-14 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Dracunculus vulgaris, a Mediterranean Araceae from the Balkans, Greece, Crete. No relation whatsoever to the Indian flora. Pascal From: "J.M. Garg" Date: Saturday, 14 May 2022 at 16:56 To: efloraofindia Cc: Saroj Kasaju Subject: Fwd: SK 3464 08 May 2022 Forwarding again for Id

Re: [efloraofindia:420872] Re: Swamy/New series/ID/60 Arisaema sps.

2022-04-25 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
When the apex of the spathe is caudate and almost filiform and the appendix is not longer than the spathe and straight it is jacquemontii. The spathe tip of tortuosum is not pointed/caudate and the appendix is sigmoidally curved (like an elephant trunk) pointing upwards. There is reference to

[efloraofindia:419097] Re: Arisaema tortuosum (Wall.) Schott

2022-04-07 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Arisaema jacquemontii, not tortuosum. Pascal From: Saroj Kasaju Date: Thursday, 7 April 2022 at 18:57 To: efloraindia , "J.M. Garg" , Pascal Bruggeman Subject: Arisaema tortuosum (Wall.) Schott Dear Members, Location: Talcha-Rara, Nepal Altitude: 2800m. Date: 19 A

[efloraofindia:409483] Re: SK 3237 17 September 2021

2021-12-17 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Although a high altitude for this species, this is the fruit of Arisaema tortuosum. The remainder of the appendix shows the male flowers topping the female ones. Pascal From: Saroj Kasaju Date: Friday, 17 December 2021 at 17:34 To: efloraindia , "J.M. Garg" , Pascal Bruggema

[efloraofindia:404968] Re: SK 3073 24 October 2021

2021-10-31 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Yes, I agree, Sauromatum diversifolium. I found it at the same altitude in the Langtang Valley more to the east. Pascal From: "J.M. Garg" Date: Sunday, 31 October 2021 at 08:03 To: efloraofindia Cc: Saroj Kasaju Subject: Fwd: SK 3073 24 October 2021 Thanks, Saroj ji. --

[efloraofindia:402212] Re: SK 3036 11 October 2021

2021-10-11 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Yes, Arisaema flavum. Pascal From: Saroj Kasaju Date: Monday, 11 October 2021 at 14:53 To: efloraindia , "J.M. Garg" , Pascal Bruggeman Subject: SK 3036 11 October 2021 Dear Members, Location: Jumla, Nepal Altitude: 2561m. Date: 18 August 2021 Habit : Wild Arisa

[efloraofindia:400155] Re: Araceae ID from Nepal- 3

2021-09-26 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Alocasia macrorrhiza is much bigger and has no peltate leaf. Alocasia navicularis does, but has a peculair V-shaped rim. I think the best possible ID would be Remusatia vivipara. But indeed with Aracaea, spathes are needed to be sure. Pascal From: "J.M. Garg" Date: Sunday, 26 September

Re: [efloraofindia:394730] 109 ID wild plant Colocasia

2021-08-10 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
On Tue, 10 Aug, 2021, 1:05 pm Pascal Bruggeman, wrote: Not Typhonium but the related genus Theriophonum, this looks to be Theriophonum infaustum. Hope this helps, Pascal Forwarding again for Id assistance please. Some earlier relevant feedback: Typhonium. ?? Thank you. Saroj

Re: [efloraofindia:394718] 109 ID wild plant Colocasia

2021-08-10 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Not Typhonium but the related genus Theriophonum, this looks to be Theriophonum infaustum. Hope this helps, Pascal Forwarding again for Id assistance please. Some earlier relevant feedback: Typhonium. ?? Thank you. Saroj Kasaju Yes, it is Typhonium Sp. dear Saroj ji, kind regards,

Re: [efloraofindia:389870] Please identify this plant.

2021-06-25 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
is cut open to reveal the innerparts. Pascal From: Animesh Manna Date: Thursday, 24 June 2021 at 10:19 To: Pascal Bruggeman Cc: "J.M. Garg" , efloraofindia , Paradesi Anjaneyulu Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:389076] Please identify this plant. Thank you for the iden

Re: [efloraofindia:389771] Please identify this plant.

2021-06-24 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Theriophonum minutum Pascal From: "J.M. Garg" Date: Thursday, 24 June 2021 at 10:03 To: efloraofindia Cc: , Paradesi Anjaneyulu Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:389076] Please identify this plant. Forwarding again for Id assistance please. Some earlier relevant feedback: Check with

Re: [efloraofindia:389373] Need help with strange, post-rain flower

2021-06-20 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Amorphophallus section Raphiophallus, most likely Amorphophallus longiconnectivus (or close to it) but AFTER flowering as the pollen has already been shed. Pascal From: "J.M. Garg" Date: Sunday, 20 June 2021 at 12:25 To: efloraofindia Cc: Fazal Rashid , Saroj Kasaju Subject: Fwd:

Re: [efloraofindia:384685] Araceae, Arecaceae and Zingiberaceae Fortnight: Araceae-:: Arisaema sp. at Sagargad :: PKA25:

2021-05-05 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
This is one of the S Indian forms of Arisaema tortuosum. There seem to be 2 different phenotypes in S India, a form with a single leaf like this and a long peduncle starting quite low and a form that is more alike the Himalayan forms with 2-3 leaves and a shorter peduncle . I am not sure yet if

Re: [efloraofindia:383590] Araceae, Arecaceae and Zingiberaceae Fortnight: Araceae- Arisaema for id from Chakrata:: NS Aug 09

2021-04-25 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
The plant on the picture is past anthesis and the appendix is shrivelled up but is most likely Arisaema jacquemontii, a highland species. Tripartite leaves are rare in this species but they do occur. It is always best with Arisaema (or other Araceae) to cut open the spathe for details for

Re: [efloraofindia:368786] Fwd: Arisaema tortuosum from Periyar

2020-12-17 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
That is straight Arisaema tortuosum, neglectum itself is a good but separate species and in my view is not a variety of Arisaema tortuosum. Regards, Pascal From: "J.M. Garg" Date: Thursday, 17 December 2020 at 17:29 To: efloraofindia Cc: Saroj Kasaju , Nayan Singh Subject: Fwd:

Re: [efloraofindia:359781] Identification

2020-09-24 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Sauromatum venosum. From: "J.M. Garg" Date: Thursday, 24 September 2020 at 13:46 To: efloraofindia Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:359621] Identification Forwarding again for Id assistance please. -- Forwarded message - From: Mushtaq Ahmed Mushtaq Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020

Re: [efloraofindia:354132] ID please 09062020PK1

2020-07-05 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
If this is indeed from S India it could very well be an undescribed species as it does not seem to fall in any of the known species for India. To to be sure I will ask the person that will do the Amorphophallus treatment for the new and upcoming Flora of India and ask him to reply to the group.

[efloraofindia:353945] Re: Arisaema costatum (Wall.) Mart.

2020-07-03 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
The impressed leaf veins, the density of the veins and the lack of reticulation in the spathe all show this to be costatum. The altitude also indicates costatum, I assume this was photographed on Flower Hill? Pascal From: "J.M. Garg" Date: Friday, 3 July 2020 at 12:12 To: efloraofindia

[efloraofindia:322751] Re: SK1961 01 June 2019

2019-06-01 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Yes, that is true Arisaema erubescens. Pascal From: Saroj Kasaju Date: Saturday, 1 June 2019 at 11:46 To: efloraindia , "J.M. Garg" , Pascal Bruggeman Subject: SK1961 01 June 2019 Dear Members, Location: Chandragiri, Kathmandu, Nepal Altitude: 2511 m. Date: 27 May 2019 Ha

[efloraofindia:322541] Re: SK1920 16 May 2019

2019-05-29 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
No Araceae, maybe Asteracae (Compositae) but definitely no Araceae. Pascal From: "J.M. Garg" Date: Wednesday, 29 May 2019 at 07:10 To: efloraofindia Cc: Saroj Kasaju Subject: Fwd: SK1920 16 May 2019

Re: [efloraofindia:299472] Arisaema for identification,Mahabeleshwar

2018-07-09 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Arisaema caudatum, a weed in and around Mahabaleshwar, it grows everywhere there. Regards, Pascal From: "J.M. Garg" Date: Monday, 9 July 2018 at 08:15 To: efloraofindia Cc: Mohina Macker , DineshValke Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:298577] Arisaema for identification,Mahabeleshwar To me

[efloraofindia:297344] Re: SK1205 15 JUNE 2018

2018-06-15 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
True Arisaema propinquum, the Sandakphu area is the region the type was collected. Regards, Pascal From: Saroj Kasaju Date: Friday, 15 June 2018 at 07:59 To: efloraofindia , "J.M. Garg" , Pascal Bruggeman , Tabish Subject: SK1205 15 JUNE 2018 Dear Members, Location: Sandak

Re: [efloraofindia:297058] MS June, 2018/19 Arisaema sp. for ID

2018-06-11 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Consanguineum. Leschenaultii is from S India and Sri Lanka and has striped flowers to various degrees. This plant from Mizoram shows no striping and biogeographically cannot be leschenaultii. Unfortunately not visible above ground but leschenaultii is also stoloniferous whereas consangeuineum

[efloraofindia:296066] Re: Arisaema dahaiense H.Li

2018-05-30 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
rally lack the yellowish central vein. Both species belong to the same phylogenetic lineage but I have not found dahaiense in India yet. Pascal From: Saroj Kasaju Date: Wednesday, 30 May 2018 at 17:19 To: efloraofindia , "J.M. Garg" , Pascal Bruggeman Subject: Arisaema dahaiens

[efloraofindia:284097] Re: Request for identity of Arisaema

2017-12-15 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
The second and third picture with the entire plant is Arisaema tortuosum. The first picture is strange and a bigger overview with the leaves on it is necessary to ID. There is a pseudostem and it has 2 leaves with quite long petioles so it is definitely not an Amorphophallus but it does not

[efloraofindia:284093] Re: Arisaema tortuosum

2017-12-15 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
First and third picture is Arisaema concinumm, second picture is normal tortuosum. Neglectum is a true and independent species that only occurs in S India, particularly in Maharashtra state, but does not occur around Kalimpong. Regardsm Pascal From: "J.M. Garg" Date:

[efloraofindia:273078] Re: SK636 10 JUL-2017:ID

2017-07-22 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Arisaema speciosum, concinnum and tortuosum together. From: "J.M. Garg" > Date: Saturday, 22 July 2017 at 07:06 To: efloraofindia > Cc: Saroj Kasaju

Re: [efloraofindia:273077] SK637 11 JUL-2017:ID

2017-07-22 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Arisaema concinnum From: "J.M. Garg" > Date: Saturday, 22 July 2017 at 07:07 To: efloraofindia > Cc: Saroj Kasaju > Subject: Fwd:

[efloraofindia:272876] Re: Arisaema speciosum (Wall.) Mart. ??

2017-07-20 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
The thickened part of the appendix is still smooth so that excludes var. mirabile, this is normal speciosum. The most important difference between both varieties is the appendix surface which is verrucose (rough, like sandpaper) in var. mirabile and smooth in var. speciosum. The appendix can be

[efloraofindia:266552] Re: SK455 26 MAR-2017:ID

2017-03-27 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
That is Arisaema tortuosum Pascal From: "J.M. Garg" Date: Monday, 27 March 2017 at 07:05 To: efloraofindia Cc: Saroj Kasaju Subject: Fwd: SK455 26 MAR-2017:ID I think yes. -- Forwarded message -- From:

Re: [efloraofindia:251076] Arisaema sps. for Manipur for - 050916SS1 : for id

2016-09-09 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
That is likely Arisaema consanguineum, a widespread species that also occurs in Myanmar and Arunachal Pradesh. Pascal Van: J.M. Garg Verzonden: vrijdag 9 september 2016 10:27 Aan: efloraofindia CC: Sid Surveswaran Onderwerp: Fwd:

Re: [efloraofindia:250731] Arisaema propinquum? ABSEP2016/01

2016-09-04 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Ashwini, The first picture of the narrow, small inflorescence is what is considered propinquum. The problem is that griffithii and propinquum are not well defined species and seem to be part of a cluster of variants. Apart from the “classic” propinquum and griffithii there are numerous

[efloraofindia:245383] Re: Arisaema jacquamontii

2016-06-20 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
That is indeed Arisaema tortuosum. Pascal Van: J.M. Garg Verzonden: maandag 20 juni 2016 08:12 Aan: efloraofindia CC: Saroj Kasaju; Pudji Widodo Onderwerp: Fwd: Arisaema jacquamontii Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise

RE: [efloraofindia:233426] KH 15

2015-10-12 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
I agree, that is Sauromatum venosum Pascal Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 19:37:13 +0530 Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:232861] KH 15 From: jmga...@gmail.com To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com CC: drdsrawat.alpin...@gmail.com; maheshkhy...@gmail.com Forwarding again for Id assistance please. Some

RE: [efloraofindia:208165] ID request

2014-12-05 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Most likely Typhonium roxburghii Schott, the second picture shows the infructescence, the berries will not turn red when ripe but stay this pale color. Regards, Pascal From: J.M. Garg [mailto:jmga...@gmail.com] Sent: vrijdag 5 december 2014 11:22 To: efloraofindia Cc: harish Singh;

RE: [efloraofindia:206443] Satara, Oct 2014 :: Requesting ID validation - Araceae :: ARKNOV-30

2014-11-17 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Given the length of the peduncle and the presumed size of the plant I would say it is most likely the infrutescence of murrayi. Arisaema ghaticum occurs in the same area and has a similar shaped infrutescence but is generally smaller in size with a shorter peduncle. Hope this helps.

[efloraofindia:199797] Re: Araceae, Arecaceae and Zingiberaceae Fortnight: Araceae-:: Arisaema sahyadricum at Sinhagad :: PKA20::

2014-09-06 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Actually this the realated Arisaema ghaticum. Arisaema sahyadricum does not occur that far north in Maharahstra state and flowers with the leaves. Ghaticum was first described as a variety of sahydricum but is now considered a separate species. Apart from Sinhagad it can also be found in the

RE: [efloraofindia:199701] Araceae, Arecaceae and Zingiberaceae Month: Araceae-For id from Gori Valley :: NS Aug 22

2014-09-05 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Actually, this WAS a Typhonium but it is now classified in the genus Sauromatum: Sauromatum diversifolium. The distribution of this species starts in W Himalaya and extends into W China. The further to the east one goes, the shorter the appendix gets and the more compact the inflorescence. In

RE: [efloraofindia:199003] Arecaceae, Araceae, Zingiberaceae Fortnight 1-14 Aug 2014: Curves in Arisaema sp. (Araceae) from Uttarakhand_DSR_24

2014-08-30 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
From: J.M. Garg [mailto:jmga...@gmail.com] Sent: zaterdag 30 augustus 2014 9:09 To: efloraofindia Cc: D.S Rawat Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:196863] Arecaceae, Araceae, Zingiberaceae Fortnight 1-14 Aug 2014: Curves in Arisaema sp. (Araceae) from Uttarakhand_DSR_24 Forwarding again for

RE: [efloraofindia:199004] Araceae, Arecaceae and Zingiberaceae Fortnight: Araceae- Arisaema 10 for id from Chakrata:: NS Aug 10

2014-08-30 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
This plant shows indeed the leaf shape of what used to be known as var. curvatum. Tortuosum with narrow, thicker leaflets can mostly be found at the Western part of its distribution range. More to the east the leaflets get wider and thinner with more pronounced veination (previously known as

RE: [efloraofindia:197609] Araceae, Arecaceae and Zingiberaceae Fortnight: August 1 to 14, 2014 : Araceae : Arisaema For ID : Nasik : 130814 : AK-12

2014-08-19 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Most likely either Arisaema murrayi or A. ghaticum but from a seedhead alone impossible to tell. Regards, Pascal From: J.M. Garg [mailto:jmga...@gmail.com] Sent: dinsdag 19 augustus 2014 8:19 To: efloraofindia Cc: Aarti S. Khale Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:196648] Araceae,

Re: [efloraofindia:197642] Araceae, Arecaceae and Zingiberaceae Fortnight: Araceae- Arisaema 5 for id from Sikkim:: NS Aug 06

2014-08-19 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Yes, both belong to concinnum. Striped spathes in combination with a thin, often hooked appendix with a warty apex and a spathe tube that narrows in the middle are characteristics of concinnum. Color is not a good character in Arisaema as the pollinators are often fungus gnats and they are

RE: [efloraofindia:197493] Araceae, Arecaceae and Zingiberaceae Fortnight: Araceae- Arisaema for id from Sikkim:: NS Aug 02

2014-08-18 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Arisaema consanguineum in Sikkim is pretty much conform the holotype and has narrower leaflets with drooptips, a non-striped, all-green flower with a wider spathe blade ending in a long, filiform apex. The spathe tube in consanguineum is also not narrowing towards the spathe mouth like the

RE: [efloraofindia:197235] Araceae, Arecaceae and Zingiberaceae Fortnight: Araceae- Arisaema 3 for id from Sikkim:: NS Aug 03

2014-08-15 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
In N India and the Himalayas there is only one species that has a pseudostem with 2 or more pedatisect leaves showing a substalk (rachis) on which the leaflets are arranged AND an inflorescence with a upward facing, elephant trunk like appendix and that is tortuosum. Any species having this

RE: [efloraofindia:197236] Araceae, Arecaceae and Zingiberaceae Fortnight: Araceae- Arisaema 4 for id:: NS Aug 04

2014-08-15 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
This is Arisaema tortuosum too but the more leathery leaflets and purple edges of the rim of the spathe I have only seen in the lowland form that grows in W Bengal on the slopes near Coronation Bridge, not at the higher altitudes in Sikkim, near which place and what altitude was this picture

RE: [efloraofindia:196157] Araceae, Arecaceae and Zingiberaceae Fortnight: Araceae- Arisaema sp from Uttarakhand-GSAUG06

2014-08-09 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
I agree with Manudev, the leaf shape and nature of the infrutescence are conform Arisaema tortuosum. Regards, Pascal From: J.M. Garg [mailto:jmga...@gmail.com] Sent: vrijdag 8 augustus 2014 14:19 To: efloraofindia Cc: manudev madhavan; Gurcharan Singh Subject: Fwd:

RE: [efloraofindia:196158] Araceae, Arecaceae and Zingiberaceae Fortnight: Araceae- Arisaema utile from Uttarakhand-GSAUG04

2014-08-09 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Although there is still more fieldwork needed, this type is indeed currently considered Arisaema propinquum as Manudev suggests correctly. The holotypes and plants growing at the holotype locality of Arisaema utile suggest it is a bigger plant with broader leaflets, not to be mistaken with

RE: [efloraofindia:194875] Wild Plant For ID : Way to Darjeeling : 140714 : AK-29

2014-07-24 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Given the almost completely peltate character of the leaf more likely Colocasia affinis var. jenningsii Regards, Pascal From: J.M. Garg [mailto:jmga...@gmail.com] Sent: donderdag 24 juli 2014 9:36 To: efloraofindia Cc: Aarti S. Khale; Promila Chaturvedi Subject: Fwd:

RE: [efloraofindia:192277] Herb Id from Bangladesh SM030

2014-06-28 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
From: Sourav Mahmud [mailto:nature.su...@gmail.com] Sent: zaterdag 28 juni 2014 7:38 To: Pascal Bruggeman Cc: J.M. Garg; efloraofindia; surajit koley; Sourav Mahmud Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:190139] Herb Id from Bangladesh SM030 Dear All I have taken pictures yesterday of this species

RE: [efloraofindia:192007] IS it arisaema?

2014-06-26 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Amorphophallus. You can always recognize an Amorphophallus shoot by the fact it has 3 distinct but equal leaf sections. Each section will be divided again into several leaflets. In Arisaema you will never see that, if they are divided they are either radiatisect (umbrella-like) or have unequal

RE: [efloraofindia:190984] Amorphophallus paeoniifolius (Dennst.) Nicolson (?) from Assam

2014-06-14 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Surajit is correct, it is Amorphophallus bulbifer. On a recent trip to the Upper Siang district of Arunachal Pradesh I have come across similar plants near Pasighat that were also brown tinged. The flowers should appear shortly after the first non-flowering plants give shoots and on our way to

RE: [efloraofindia:190139] Herb Id from Bangladesh SM030

2014-06-08 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
I have asked Amorphophallus expert Wilbert Hetterscheid. According to him it is definitely a member of section Plesmonium of which Amorphophallus margaritifer is a member. However, certainly in this section it is very important to have a picture of the inside of the spathe for the shape of the

RE: [efloraofindia:186420] Is it Arisaema sp. ?

2014-04-17 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
This is Arisaema wattii, a species that has its major distribution in Burma but can be found in several of the north-eastern states of India too. It has a distinctly auriculate spathe and trifoliate leaves, the outer leaflets of the leaves are lobed and a-symmetric. Regards, Pascal

RE: [efloraofindia:162110] Arisaem

2013-08-07 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
later than normal speciosum. What does North east as the location refer to? West Bengal/Sikkim or Arunachal Pradesh? Regards, Pascal From: J.M. Garg [mailto:jmga...@gmail.com] Sent: woensdag 7 augustus 2013 6:58 To: efloraofindia Cc: Pascal Bruggeman; manudev madhavan; Jorge Lingan

RE: [efloraofindia:162111] Arisaema-2

2013-08-07 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Shrikant is correct, this is Arisaema flavum. Regards, Pascal From: J.M. Garg [mailto:jmga...@gmail.com] Sent: woensdag 7 augustus 2013 7:15 To: efloraofindia Cc: Pascal Bruggeman; manudev madhavan; Jorge Lingan; ushaprabha page; Shrikant Ingalhalikar Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia

[efloraofindia:161388] RE: Typhonium roxburghii

2013-07-28 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
and hard to distinguish morphologically but a flower is really needed to positively ID this plant. Typhonium roxburghii generally has broader and shorter leaves. Pascal From: JM Garg [mailto:jmga...@gmail.com] Sent: zondag 28 juli 2013 8:09 To: Pascal Bruggeman; Neil Soares; Pravin

RE: [efloraofindia:159787] Requesting ID of this wild herb - Mumbai :02072013 : ARK-01 : June 2013

2013-07-08 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
leaves. The leaves on the pictures remind me of a young Typhonium trilobatum but without a flower it is impossible to name. Regards, Pascal From: J.M. Garg [mailto:jmga...@gmail.com] Sent: maandag 8 juli 2013 8:05 To: Alka Khare Cc: efloraofindia; Dr Umeshkumar Tiwari; Pascal Bruggeman

RE: [efloraofindia:158947] Arisaema for identification 260613MK02

2013-07-01 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
that was collected near Ooty. Local name I think would be kidaran. Regards, Pascal From: J.M. Garg [mailto:jmga...@gmail.com] Sent: maandag 1 juli 2013 13:04 To: efloraofindia Cc: Pascal Bruggeman; manudev madhavan; Jorge Lingan; Muthu Karthick Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:158535] Arisaema

RE: [efloraofindia:158320] VoF Week : Striped Cobra Lily ( Arisaema costatum) (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2013-06-23 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
From: J.M. Garg [mailto:jmga...@gmail.com] Sent: zondag 23 juni 2013 11:35 To: efloraofindia Cc: Pascal Bruggeman; manudev madhavan; Jorge Lingan; Peter Boyce; Mani Nair; Prashant awale; Dinesh Valke; Balkar Singh; Nidhan Singh; Gurcharan Singh; D.S Rawat Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:125210

[efloraofindia:157817] RE: Cobra Lily

2013-06-16 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
This is Arisaema speciosum. Arisaema costatum is a Nepal endemic with unmarked stems and the leaf of costatum is thick with raised veins underneath. Pascal From: JM Garg [mailto:jmga...@gmail.com] Sent: zondag 16 juni 2013 11:02 To: efloraofindia; coryba...@hotmail.com;

[efloraofindia:157818] RE: Arisaema for ID

2013-06-16 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
First is indeed Arisaema tortuosum (erubescens has a radiatisect, umbrella type leaf where all the leaflets seem to originate from a central point) and the second is Arisaema propinquum. Regards, Pascal From: JM Garg [mailto:jmga...@gmail.com] Sent: zondag 16 juni 2013 10:57 To:

RE: [efloraofindia:157731] Arisaema griffithii

2013-06-15 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
. The holotype of utile was collected from near Lachen and is a different form of griffithii with a longer peduncle. Regards, Pascal From: J.M. Garg [mailto:jmga...@gmail.com] Sent: zaterdag 15 juni 2013 14:12 To: efloraofindia; Pascal Bruggeman; manudev madhavan; Jorge Lingan

RE: [efloraofindia:147761] Fruit for id from Manali-NS 2012

2013-03-02 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Dear dr. Singh, I think your assesment is correct, this indeed is the fruit of Sauromatum venosum, the fruits are often half buried in the soil as can be seen on this picture: http://www.jmvanberkel.nl/nl/sauromatum-venosum-11-20091001.html They usually start to color from red to

RE: [efloraofindia:147402] identification no200213sn1

2013-02-25 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Dear Satish, This is very hard to say based on fruit and leaves only but because of the size of the plant and length of the infrustecence it likely is not Arisaema ghaticum. I don't think Arisaema sahyadricum grows that far north either so I am inclined to think this might actually be a

RE: [efloraofindia:145935] Fwd: Arisaema flavum from Kedarnath Wildlife Sanctuary, Uttrakhand (030609SCS)

2013-02-08 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
That is Arisaema concinnum. Regards, Pascal From: J.M. Garg [mailto:jmga...@gmail.com] Sent: vrijdag 8 februari 2013 9:57 To: efloraofindia Cc: coryba...@hotmail.com; manudevkmadha...@gmail.com; jorge.lin...@gmail.com Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:145927] Fwd: Arisaema flavum from

RE: [efloraofindia:145281] Arisaema jacquemontii from Bhadarwah JK

2013-02-04 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Yes correct, this is Arisaema jacquemontii Regards, Pascal From: J.M. Garg [mailto:jmga...@gmail.com] Sent: maandag 4 februari 2013 6:48 To: efloraofindia Cc: coryba...@hotmail.com; manudevkmadha...@gmail.com; jorge.lin...@gmail.com; Gurcharan Singh; Suresh Rana Subject: Fwd:

RE: [efloraofindia:145282] Arisaema propinquum from Bhadarwah JK

2013-02-04 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Incorrect, this looks to be Sauromatum venosum. Regards, Pascal From: J.M. Garg [mailto:jmga...@gmail.com] Sent: maandag 4 februari 2013 6:49 To: efloraofindia Cc: coryba...@hotmail.com; manudevkmadha...@gmail.com; jorge.lin...@gmail.com; Gurcharan Singh; Suresh Rana Subject: Fwd:

RE: [efloraofindia:145287] Arisaema falvum from Bhadarwah JK

2013-02-04 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Given the relatively small size, the shortness of the pseudostem, the shape of the leaves, the semi-nodding fruit and the shape of the berries I would agree with the ID of flavum. Regards, Pascal From: J.M. Garg [mailto:jmga...@gmail.com] Sent: maandag 4 februari 2013 6:51 To:

[efloraofindia:142254] RE: Amorphophallus sp. Plz id this plant: pa67 - 26dec2012

2013-01-04 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
This is most likely common paeoniifolius, widespread through Maharashtra and most other S Indian states as well as Assam. Fruithead and ripening sequence of the berries are quite characteristic for this species. The other big species in Maharashtra, Am. commutatus has different fruits held on a

RE: [efloraofindia:140729] Request for Id

2012-12-17 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
That would be Typhonium flagelliforme Blume, a plant from semi aquatic habitats that is used in the treatment of cough as well as cancer. I was only aware of it growing wild in S India so it might have been introduced in Assam for its medicinal properties. Very widespread throughout Asia even

RE: [efloraofindia:138840] Arisaema for ID : Nainital : 131112 : AK-1

2012-11-21 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Yes, no doubt, 100% typical Arisaema tortuosum. Regards, Pascal From: jmgarg1 [mailto:jmga...@gmail.com] Sent: donderdag 22 november 2012 6:30 To: efloraofindia Cc: coryba...@hotmail.com; manudevkmadha...@gmail.com; jorge.lin...@gmail.com; Aarti S. Khale; Gurcharan Singh Subject: Fwd:

RE: [efloraofindia:135760] ID02102012PHK1

2012-10-21 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
I have to agree with Manudev, not enough details to conclusively identify it with and the clues at hand are a bit conflicting. Arisaema caudatum generally has a single leaf and striated petioles with more linear leaflets that end in a drooptip and has not been reported this far north (but that in

RE: [efloraofindia:132052] VOF Week: Arisaema sp-1 ---along Govindghat-Ghangaria Trail

2012-09-22 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Yes, I agree, Arisaema jacquemontii Pascal From: jmgarg1 [mailto:jmga...@gmail.com] Sent: zaterdag 22 september 2012 17:49 To: efloraofindia Cc: coryba...@hotmail.com; manudevkmadha...@gmail.com; jorge.lin...@gmail.com; aro...@numericable.fr; phymata...@gmail.com; Balkar Singh; Prashant

RE: [efloraofindia:131759] VOF Week: Araceae sp-S2 ---near Joshimath

2012-09-20 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
The leaf and type of infrutescence are typical for Arisaema tortuosum, further evidence of this ID can be found in the remnants of the (shriveled) male flowers and long appendix. Regards, Pascal From: jmgarg1 [mailto:jmga...@gmail.com] Sent: donderdag 20 september 2012 14:03 To:

RE: [efloraofindia:126933] VoF Week: Arisaema jaquemontii from Ghangriya Near Helipad

2012-08-28 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Yes, this is indeed Arisaema jacquemontii so it was correctly identified. Flowering seems rather late but when pollinated the spathe stays intact for long in this species. Regards, Pascal Bruggeman From: jmgarg1 [mailto:jmga...@gmail.com] Sent: dinsdag 28 augustus 2012 12:14

RE: [efloraofindia:121863] identification no190911sn2

2012-07-13 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Either Arisaema ghaticum (previously known as Arisaema sahyadricum var. ghaticum) or Arisaema sahyadricum. I am not familiar with normal sahyadricum growing that far north so my best guess would be Arisaema ghaticum, a species known to grow around Pune (at Sinhagad for instance). Arisaema

RE: [efloraofindia:120287] DV :: 17JUN12 - 0933 :: another species of Amorphophallus at Kanheri Hills

2012-06-24 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Looks like Amorphophallus smithsonianus to me. Regards, Pascal From: jmgarg1 [mailto:jmga...@gmail.com] Sent: maandag 25 juni 2012 7:25 To: efloraofindia Cc: coryba...@hotmail.com; manudevkmadha...@gmail.com; jorge.lin...@gmail.com; Giby Kuriakose; Dinesh Valke Subject: Fwd:

RE: [efloraofindia:93875] identification no170811sn3

2011-11-11 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
All, I agree with Manudev, without more data impossible to say what it is, a close-up of the leaves would be very helpful as well as a close-up of the berries to see any remnants of stigma or spadix appendix. The leaflets seem too broad for an Amorphophallus and also the leaves of

[efloraofindia:91308] Fwd: Cryptocoryne retrospiralis

2011-11-02 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
I am no expert on Crytocoryne but if you look at the website of Cryptocoryne expert Jan Bastmeijer it looks like it: http://crypts.home.xs4all.nl/Cryptocoryne/Countries/India.html You can also see there are several species from the Western Ghats. For confirmation you perhaps can contact Jan

[efloraofindia:91160] Fwd: Some old Kalatope id's.. Al011111

2011-11-01 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Alok, This is Sauromatum venosum, not an Arisaema. The tuber just needs to be big enough to flower but when it does you will smell it sooner than you see it. The flowers are usually dark brown and spotted and appear before the leaves. The tuber can even flower out of soil. Just feed it well and I

[efloraofindia:91161] Fwd: Arisaema jacquemontii - at least I think so..

2011-11-01 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Yes, I agree. Arisaema jacquemontii. The appendix length is a bit variable, usually female flowers have a slightly shorter appendix but this definitely Arisaema jacquemontii. -- Forwarded message -- From: Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com Date: Nov 1, 10:53 am Subject: Arisaema

Fwd: Fwd: [efloraofindia:90789] Kalatope Aisaema id al240711

2011-10-31 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Dear Alok, This is Arisaema tortuosum. Forms from W Himalaya tend to have more narrow linear leaflets (previosuly called var. curvatum) than the broader leaflets of the E Himalaya forms (previously called var. helleboriffolium). They also occur at slightly higher altutudes in W Himalaya. Arisaema

[efloraofindia:90874] Fwd: Kalatope Aisaema id al240711

2011-10-31 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Yazdy, The pictures source is reliable, that is indeed jacquemontii but do check the appendix of the flower in the background. It is not the appendix but the spathe tip that is prortruding upwards with jacquemontii, the appendix of jacquemontii is shorter than the spathe blade. Do also check

Fwd: Fwd: [efloraofindia:67902] Flora of Andaman33- 110111-PKA1

2011-04-23 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Only 2 Amorphophallus species occur at Andaman: Am. muelleri and Am. longistylus. Because I was unfamiliar with the berries of longistylus I have asked Amorphophallus expert Wilbert Hetterscheid and according to him the shape of the fruits on the picture is more towards muelleri. As this species

[efloraofindia:55660] Fwd: Arisaemas

2010-12-02 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Hi, For comments on the first plant see: http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/f7c32f3776525710/91dfc3929888?lnk=gstq=arisaema# The second species is Arisaema dahaiense. Arisaema dahaiense is originally described from China and is a sister species of Arisaema

Fwd: Fwd: [efloraofindia:55266] Request for ID : 311010-AK-2

2010-11-27 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Given the fact that not many Arisaema species grow in N Maharastra combined with the shape of the fruit it might possibly be the fruit of Arisaema murrayi. But without additional information it is more a questimate than a certain identification. Maybe Dr. Milind Sardesai has observed this species

[efloraofindia:54908] Fwd: Dr. Pascal Bruggeman- our new member

2010-11-21 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Dear Mr Garg, Thanx for introducing me and I hope I can be of help in the future with Indian Arisaema. PS. Please just call me Pascal. -- Forwarded message -- From: Yazdy Palia yazdypa...@gmail.com Date: 21 nov, 11:13 Subject: Dr. Pascal Bruggeman- our new member

[efloraofindia:54853] Fwd: Requesting fruiting plant id

2010-11-20 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Definitely Araceae, most likely Arisaema but I agree with Yazdy, without leaves or other details (length of fruitings stalk, size of fruit, altitude) impossible to positively ID. Fruits of some S Indian Arisaema can look rather similar. Regards, Pascal -- Forwarded message --

[efloraofindia:54867] Fwd: Fwd: Arisaema From Solan HP

2010-11-20 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Apologies, I meant Arisaema tortuosum var. curvatum, not recurvatum -- Forwarded message -- From: Pascal Bruggeman coryba...@hotmail.com Date: 19 nov, 16:58 Subject: Fwd: Arisaema From Solan HP To: efloraofindia Dear Dr. Balkar, This is the narrow leaved form of Arisaema

[efloraofindia:54877] Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: Arisaema From Solan HP

2010-11-20 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
20, 9:29 pm, Pascal Bruggeman coryba...@hotmail.com wrote: Apologies, I meant Arisaema tortuosum var. curvatum, not recurvatum -- Forwarded message -- From: Pascal Bruggeman coryba...@hotmail.com Date: 19 nov, 16:58 Subject: Fwd: Arisaema From Solan HP To: efloraofindia

[efloraofindia:54792] Fwd: Arisaema From Solan HP

2010-11-19 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
Arisaema tortuosum. Arisaema erubescens has radiatiasect leaves and a truncate appendix that does not portrude the spathe mouth, this in contrast to the tortuose (elephant trunk like) appendix of the plant on the pictures. Regards, Pascal Bruggeman The Netherlands -- Forwarded message

Fwd: Fwd: [efloraofindia:54835] id pl. of Arisema sp.

2010-11-19 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
known species I would suggest to ID it as Arisaema species aff. griffithii-group. Regards, Pascal Bruggeman The Netherlands -- Forwarded message -- From: Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com Date: 6 nov, 01:36 Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:46090] id pl. of Arisema sp

[efloraofindia:54835] Fwd: Identification of Arisaema - regarding.

2010-11-19 Thread Pascal Bruggeman
and unmarked leaf and flower stalks 3 A B = Arisaema griffithii, this is the lowland form originally described as Arisaema hookeri/hookerianum 4 A B = Arisaema concinnum 5 A-D = Arisaema concinnum Arisaema concinnum occurs in green forms and purple forms and anything in between. Regards, Pascal

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