RE: backup programs
I"m not sure, but if I remember correctly, taper is the software that ships with redhat and a few other systems. It's alot like an older dos based backup program (not fancy) but if I remember correctly, it's fairly reliable. I used to do a few backups on an old linux system of mine with a 120 tape drive, and taper was a decent program then. That's about the best I can give you as i've not used the program for nie onto 2 to 3 years now. Doug -Original Message- From: Paul M.N Feehan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 30, 1999 7:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:backup programs Hi Everyone, This is a slightly off-topic question (so apologies in advance) as it's not inspiron-specific, but I'm trying to evaluate a few backup programs for use with my i3k + Iomega Ditto Max tape drive (and occasionally, a Zip drive). I want something reliable, flexible, and easy to use (menu-driven, etc,...). Currently, I'm looking at KBackup Taper PerfectBackup BRU 2000 I have a philosophical preference for free/shareware programs in general, so I'm leaning to one of the first three. I'd be really grateful, though, if anyone on the list had experience with one or more of the above. Reliability is the main issue in the end, so if needed I'd hand over the $80 to LinuxMall for BRU, but I'm curious about the alternatives. Thanks, Paul --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: strange CS4232 behavior
Check the back archives..I seem to remember some behavior like this. The thing about the 98 - Linux warm boot is that Windoze will correctly initialize the sound hardware when it enters windows, so when you shutdown and back to linux, the soundcard still retains it's settings (it can even do that if you power off and back on quickly). In other words, Windoze98 is actually initializing the soundcard instead of linux. I'm sure you've already tried this, but does a power off after the shutdown of Linux (shutdown -h) correct the sound problem or allow it to NOT happen anymore? Doug -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 01, 1999 4:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:strange CS4232 behavior I am experiencing some really weird problems with the CS4232 sound in my Inspiron 3200, and I wonder if anyone can shed any light on the matter. System: Inspiron 3200 RH 5.1 with all updates installed self-compiled 2.0.36 kernel with CS4232 as module Win98 on hda1, linux on hda6. When I first turn the laptop on and boot linux everything works fine. If I cd /usr/share/sndconfig and play sample.au, I hear Linus' sentence in all its glory. If I load X (WindowMaker + GNOME, btw) I can listen to mp3's in x11amp quite happily. However, if I need to reboot at all (I've been doing a lot of kernel compilation lately), my sound is screwed after the reboot. /usr/share/sndconfig/sample.au comes out "Hell..." and is cut off. Upon playing an mp3 file in x11amp, the first fraction of a second of the mp3 gets stuck in a loop - generally this just sounds like "chik-chik-chik-chik..." This is identical to a problem described on the list by Ralph Benzinger last year, and he tells me that he solved it by purchasing and installing the 4Front OSS package. Here's where things get strange. I can solve the problem by booting to Win98 and rebooting to Linux. If I do THAT, sound is back to working perfectly. It's a warm boot out of linux BACK to linux that screws the sound up. Any ideas anyone? -- Simon H. Garlick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pager: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Keys available at www.nzgames.com/pgp.html Viva la Linux! www.linux.org --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Suspend under Linux
*Cackle* Ok..you guys are sick...truely sick*grin* A 386 paperweight laptop using lynx across a cell phone*ponder* Something makes me think that cell phone would take one look at what you are trying to hook it up to and laugh it's ass off, then roll over and die on you. *grin* Doug -Original Message- From: Peter Bailey [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 29, 1999 3:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Suspend under Linux blah blah.. I know I know.. I had a top of the line XT in the 80s. They didn't even have 386 PCs in the 70s. You had to go pop my bubble though. Maybe it was just because everything else seemed like late 60s early 70s movies where they were like.. showing footage of 'high tech' labs and stuff. Heh.. All looks so silly now. It was probably late 80s or early 90s in actuality. But maybe the case was made in the 70s. heh.. No no.. not "Compaq" as the name exists today, but it was a Leading Edge paperwei.. I mean.. laptop. I still can't believe they wanted 100 bucks for it. Was a pile. But novelty galore. I just imagine pulling msdos 5.0 off and putting a nice kernel 0.99 or the latest stable 1.xx on it. That would be so cool. Crap on 'have lying around." I'd have the beast running as a terminal. Set the badboy somewhere no one would ever expect it. Like on the coffee table with a serial cable and a power cord running out the tail end. Then I'd have my main desktop dialup and I could check my email on it. Get a cell phone and set it up in my car through the 2400 baud modem. Lynx! On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Chris Randall wrote: - Original Message - From: Peter Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 28, 1999 11:05 PM Subject: Re: Suspend under Linux I saw the coolest computer ever yesterday. It was a 70s style laptop. It was way bulky, probably 20 some pounds. It had removable modem (about the size of a half length desktop board, but no network card. It had a display that was kind of like a calculator. It was begging for me to put Linux on it and set it up as a dumb terminal. 386 with 20 meg hard drive, maybe a floppy drive, and a 2400 modem. I should have offered 20 bucks for it, but they wanted 100. Just for fun to put Linux on. Network it through the serial/parallel port with ppp and put just a kernel, telnet, and a few other networking utilities on it. It actually boot too. Antique. I could just not eat for a day and save 20 bucks. Not to detract from the coolness, but if the 'laptop' had a 386 inside, it was a latter-80s box, not a seventies box (the 386 rolled out in 1985). I lugged a Compaq that sounds like what you're describing in the late 80s for field engineering stuff. It was a 286 with a green monochrome monitor (maybe 9" ??). It would indeed be a fun 'antique' to have lying around, and even more fun if you did run Linux on it! (I think mine ran DOS 3.x - and Infocom games) Chris. [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Power Management under 2.2.0
Look in your README file at the end...or there's another file in that directory with the info...*gasp documentation* *grin* Doug -Original Message- From: Travis Bauer [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 29, 1999 5:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Power Management under 2.2.0 Maybe we can take a poll regarding just how many people on this list have the same problem and report it to wherever the bugs for the kernel are reported. Does anyone know where to report bugs in the kernel? TB -Original Message- From: Jonathan Day-Reiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 10:41 PM Subject: RE: Power Management under 2.2.0 On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, thus spoke Douglas Wagner: Well, I had the problem with 2.2.0pre9, so I waited and got the full release of 2.2.0 and it still doesn't work. Travis Bauer (see his post) also seems to be having the same problem with 2.2.0. Perhaps it is some sort of bug, as you say. I compiled 2.2.0pre9 twice, compile went smooth, no problems with suspend, just no poweroff on shutdown. Got rid of it when 2.2.0 final came around, tried again, and the problem is still there. --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Kernel 2.2.0 and APM
looks to me like they changed the file name on you...either edit the make file to match ext or rename the file to match ext2... Doug -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Stevison [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 28, 1999 10:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Kernel 2.2.0 and APM The error i get is the following: make[1]: *** No rule to make target '/usr/src/linux/include/linux/ext_fs_i.h', needed by 'i82365.o'. Stop. The ext_fs_i.h file does not exist in this directory, I only see ext2_fs_i.h. Any suggestions as to why this is happening? Vijaykumar Krishnaswamy wrote: i found this on the pcmcia web page do the following Inside pcmcia's Configure script, find the lines #ifndef _PCMCIA_CONFIG_H #define _PCMCIA_CONFIG_H and add #include linux/autoconf.h right after the #define _PCMCIA_CONFIG_H line. Inside clients/Makefile, find 8390.o: $(LINUX)/drivers/net/8390.c ../include/linux/config.h $(CC) -c $(XFLAGS) -DMODULE $ and change that to 8390.o: $(LINUX)/drivers/net/8390.c ../include/linux/config.h $(CC) -c $(XFLAGS) -DMODULE -DEXPORT_SYMTAB $ Then reconfigure pcmcia-cs and make... i exactly followed this and was able to compile the package after the changes. good luck, vijay _ _,-.__ _,-.__,-._,-._/| ._,-' \_,-._/ [_,-:_ _,-._ `-^-._,-' _,-._/`-^-._,-' | | Vijaykumar Krishnaswamy, Phone : (404) 607 0773(H) | |Ph.D. Student Phone : (404) 894 6169(O) | |Georgia Tech, .Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | College of Computing |\ Logged onto : skye.cc.gatech.edu | !_,-._,-^-._,--._/`:_,-' \__,-._/`-^-^-._/\_,-'\__,-^-._/`-._/\_,-'-._| --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Power Management under 2.2.0 WAS Re: Kernel 2.2.0 and APM
Sorry about the off topic problem...the compilation of the kernel and PCMCIA stuff IS a problem however which needs to be fixed..:) The best I can tell you is to use the fix provided earlier on the in X-Windows screen problem when suspending...dish to a console window (ctrl-alt-f1-f6) and then suspend...when you return, your xwin (ctrl-alt-f7) should still be fine. As to the APM not working...is the kernel compiling correctly? Are you sure you are using the newly compiled kernel? (Make sure you've lilo'ed after compile)...if all these are yes (i'm assuming they are) that's why this is a PRE 2.2 kernel..:) I'd suggest downloading a 2.1.x kernel and trying Suspend...it's probably broken in there somewhere and should be reported to the kernel people...if it works in 2.1 but not in 2.2 then i'm really stumped and would still say it's a bug that will be fixed in a future (before the release) kernel. Doug -Original Message- From: Jonathan Day-Reiner [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 28, 1999 1:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Power Management under 2.2.0 WAS Re: Kernel 2.2.0 and APM On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, thus spoke Gerald Van Baren: With minimal knowledge, I'll jump in. The ext file system is old and not widely used and probably went into the "unsupported" pile. It is [snip!] This thread has gotten way off topic, so I'll ask my question again. Has anyone had any success with the "Poweroff on Shutdown" function in the 2.2.0 kernel? I've compiled like thrice already, and it won't work. Similarly, I still can't suspend in an X console without the computer acting as if it has taken some high grade sandoz purple,. This happens under both 2.2.0 or 2.0.36. Using Xfree 3.3.3, all the latest drivers etc. Poweoff works fine under 2.0.36, so why not 2.2.0? I'm using an inspiron 3.2k for all who care to know. Jon -- Carla and/or Jonathan Day-Reiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #985632 Toronto, Ontario, Canada *remove "nospam" from reply-to address before responding* --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Kernel 2.2.0 and APM
Sorry, let me explain...ext2 is the filesystem type...ext filesystem type died a screeming horrid death a long time ago. I'm guessing that the makefile was typo'ed and the "2" was missed for the file name. I'm not overly sure on that, but i'd bet you that if you modified one or the other to match the thing would compile and work flawlessly Doug -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Stevison [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 28, 1999 12:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Kernel 2.2.0 and APM I had changed the link when I started. I even went into the dir that I had the source in and checked it out and that file does not exist. I can't figure it out. I have ext2_fs_i.h, but not ext_fs_i.h. Do you have this file in your dir? Vijaykumar Krishnaswamy wrote: /usr/src/linux is a soft link to the linux.x directory, make sure it points to linux2.2.May be it is pointing to 2.0.36 vijay _ _,-.__ _,-.__,-._,-._/| ._,-' \_,-._/ [_,-:_ _,-._ `-^-._,-' _,-._/`-^-._,-' | | Vijaykumar Krishnaswamy, Phone : (404) 607 0773(H) | |Ph.D. Student Phone : (404) 894 6169(O) | |Georgia Tech, .Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | College of Computing |\ Logged onto : skye.cc.gatech.edu | !_,-._,-^-._,--._/`:_,-' \__,-._/`-^-^-._/\_,-'\__,-^-._/`-._/\_,-'-._| --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Questions about linux ..
No offense to you ryan by using you as an example in this case, but this goes back to a previous argument that appeared on this list. For linux to truely be accepted in any of the desktop communities, it's going to have to find some way to RELIABLY (even at all) support microsoft products. Yes, we could suggest he use Word Perfect 8 (downloadable from any major download site), and learn HTMLbut you can't make this type of suggestion to corporations. The unfortunate and bad reality here is that too many people use MS applications. If Linux ever supported MS apps, MS would be in DEEP trouble. To answer your question Ryan, Linux is a freeware operating system of the UNIX flavor. It is an incredibly stable UNIX os that includes a window manager and command line interface. However, and i'm going to get massivly flamed for this right now, it's uses are mostly in software development. LINUX does not, and probably never will, support MS-Office products. If you use MS products, LINUX probably will not work for you. You will get many people telling you it is a superior operating system, and it IS a superrior operating system, but mostly in ways a normal end user couldn't care less about. It handles running multiple programs much better than MS, it is MUCH more stable and rarely if ever crashes. It is built to stay up and running for ages (a linux box I used to administrate was up for well over 7 months, and it only came down when power to the University it was running at was cut accidentaly). There are 3 or 4 basic text editors, a kick ass c/c++ compiler, it will support Netscape, and there are a few commercial applications currently being developed for Linux. All in all it's a wonderful operating system and a good thing to look at and play with. However, if you use mostly Windows based programs, i'd say about 95% of what you currently use isn't and won't be supported any time soon. I'd love to tell you that linux is your answer. I'd love to say that you could find equivalent programs for most of what you use (and could import your current files). And i'd love to say that with a bit of work or with a little more time you will be able to use linux for your work and drop that horrid piece of that is termed an operating system and sold only to milk money out of your wallet...but the truith and fact of the matter is that if you have a set of applications you can use, and they happen to be MS apps, you are sort of SOL unless you want a major headache of re-doing all your work. Until someone in the linux development community realizes that the only thing holding Linux back from trouncing MS in the operating system market is Linux's complete inability to support software built for windows, then linux probably will never become a major operating system player, at least not in the desktop market. Douglas Wagner p.s. Yea..go ahead and roll the flames out...but I challange anyone out there who's planning to flame me to really contridict my statements on Linux's downfalls. Yea..with enough digging and weeks of work I could probably replace all my software with versions supported by linux, download or buy converters to all the file formats I use so that things I do in linux could be supported and used and modified in the other worlds. But in reality, no business will ever do that, and no computer user who's simply interested in getting work done in the easyest way possible will ever do that. When I can pop a cd into my system, have it automaticaly pull up a box saying click here to install, it automaticaly installs all this fun stuff onto my computer, and I can now work with any files in the office or that would be sent to me across the internet i'm not sure what reason there is to switch to linux. Where I have to unmount my cd, mount the instal cd, find where it is mounted in the filestructure, run some install script that (unless written by a reputable company) will as likely fail as succeed, have to download 15 different updated packages, run the install script again to get the stuff to my system, then have to type the path or filename on a command line to get the program to run (i'm not even going to go into what it would take to get the icon to be added to the menu system). Me? I love it. I'd do that in a heartbeat for the power and responsiveness of the Linux Operating system. To those of us who have used computers for ages and like digging into the command line and the operating system, linux is great...to those NORMAL users who only care about getting their work done, linux is simply not efficient or simple enough. -Original Message- From: Ryan Reddell [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 23, 1999 3:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Questions about linux .. I've been hearing good thibgs about it. but what software does it support?? The 2 main programs I use are Front Page 98
RE: Questions about linux ..
I would HIGHLY suggest taking part of your 8gig (1 gig is probably more than sufficient) and putting linux on it. This news group should help you get it up and running, it is great to put on for the learning, the experience, and frankly the knowledge. Linux is, has been, and will always remain my favorite operating system. Go for it, you'll be better for the frustration..*griN*. Also, on the topic of stability, Linux has been rated again and again in review after review as one of the most stable (having been called THE most stable) UNIX O/S's. Actually, if you stick to release code and release drivers, and don't try to do anything really fancy (like mount the different OS file systems)...i'd pretty much gaurentee almost 100% uptime with linux...I can't do that with SUN or IBM. And try as I might, I don't htink i've ever managed to completely screw up a linux OS to the point of not being able to get back in and fix it. Doug -Original Message- From: Ryan Reddell [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 25, 1999 2:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: Questions about linux .. Thanks for all the information... I love my Front Page 98... Its just to easy to run a web site with it other then that MS stands for Majorly Sucks!!! IMHO Win 98 crashes 2x more the Win 95... But with the 8gig I got w/ my I7K I might put linux on a partition and have fun w/ it... But your right... 95% of the computers users like the idea off just putting the CD in and 5 min. later start playing __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PCMCIA
Actually, i'm betting that 2.2 moved the functions undeclaired in that module to another .h file, or incorporated it all toghether...you may want to promote that as a bug Doug -Original Message- From: Vijaykumar Krishnaswamy [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 25, 1999 4:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: PCMCIA Hi, i am not able to compile the pcmcia-3.0.7 version on 2.2-final version of the kernel too. here is the output from the compiler make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2/pcmcia-cs-3.0.7/modules' gcc -MD -O2 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Winline -pipe -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE -I../include -I/usr/src/linux-2.2/include -I/usr/src/linux-2.2 -c i82365.c /usr/src/linux-2.2/include/asm/smp.h: In function `hard_smp_processor_id': In file included from /usr/src/linux-2.2/include/linux/smp.h:11, from /usr/src/linux-2.2/include/linux/sched.h:20, from /usr/src/linux-2.2/include/asm/uaccess.h:8, from ../include/pcmcia/k_compat.h:117, from i82365.c:25: /usr/src/linux-2.2/include/asm/smp.h:209: warning: implicit declaration of function `GET_APIC_ID' /usr/src/linux-2.2/include/asm/smp.h:209: `APIC_BASE' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/src/linux-2.2/include/asm/smp.h:209: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/linux-2.2/include/asm/smp.h:209: for each function it appears in.) /usr/src/linux-2.2/include/asm/smp.h:209: `APIC_ID' undeclared (first use this function) make[1]: *** [i82365.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2/pcmcia-cs-3.0.7/modules' make: *** [all] Error 2 it is not able to find some definitions.Probably i did not configure it properly.I will once again give it a shot later.But the same thing compiles on 2.0.36 and works fine too. vijay _ _,-.__ _,-.__,-._,-._/| ._,-' \_,-._/ [_,-:_ _,-._ `-^-._,-' _,-._/`-^-._,-' | | Vijaykumar Krishnaswamy, Phone : (404) 607 0773(H) | |Ph.D. Student Phone : (404) 894 6169(O) | |Georgia Tech, .Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | College of Computing |\ Logged onto : skye.cc.gatech.edu | !_,-._,-^-._,--._/`:_,-' \__,-._/`-^-^-._/\_,-'\__,-^-._/`-._/\_,-'-._| --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Downloading A CD image for Redhat?
Thanks to all of you who responded to this one..I appreciate it. Since i'm looking to do this for future releases as well as current ones, i'll have to turn your offer down Jason (tho where the heck did you get the updated RPM's? Are those the ones on the sites currently?)...it looks like i'm going to have to start FTP'ing software from a mirror (I think I actually remember a really cool one...) and write my cd...however, here's a question... Anyone out there have a fairly cheap ($30 or less) distribution of redhat that includes archives of sunsite, tsx11, etc AND/OR that includes some utilities (like the RedHat Power utilities, GNOME, that sort of stuff?) Doug -Original Message- From: Jason Lau [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 21, 1999 3:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Downloading A CD image for Redhat? I have the actual _bootable_ (yes!!) ISO of RedHat 5.2-2 (5.2-2 is the 5.2 release with upgraded RPM's) that I downloaded off of an .edu site. I can pop it on an FTP if you would like, I'm on a T1. -Original Message- From: Douglas Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, January 21, 1999 3:05 PM Subject: Downloading A CD image for Redhat? At some point, someone on this list wrote me an e-mail message telling me that there was a downloadable? CD-Rom image that could be burned onto a CD for RedHat 5.2. If anyone has ANY information about that i'd highly appreciate it...since the @#$%^* distributor's of my favorite CD-Rom Set (InfoMagic) just decided that they needed to double the price of their archives, and i'm not playing that kind of game...I pay $95 for an upgrade to the windows 98 O/S (ick), I shouldn't have to pay $60 for an upgrade of a free operating system (inculuding archives of Sunsite, TSX-11, etc. however..but that's still excessive). Anyway, if anyone has info on how I can "write my own" CD-Rom or create a cd-rom image of RedHat 5.2 to write to CD (Yes.it must be installable) i'd be most appreciative. Douglas Wagner p.s. I know this is proably the third time this has come up on the list within the last month and a half..I apoligize and i'll stop after this one..:) --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Downloading A CD image for Redhat?
At some point, someone on this list wrote me an e-mail message telling me that there was a downloadable? CD-Rom image that could be burned onto a CD for RedHat 5.2. If anyone has ANY information about that i'd highly appreciate it...since the @#$%^* distributor's of my favorite CD-Rom Set (InfoMagic) just decided that they needed to double the price of their archives, and i'm not playing that kind of game...I pay $95 for an upgrade to the windows 98 O/S (ick), I shouldn't have to pay $60 for an upgrade of a free operating system (inculuding archives of Sunsite, TSX-11, etc. however..but that's still excessive). Anyway, if anyone has info on how I can "write my own" CD-Rom or create a cd-rom image of RedHat 5.2 to write to CD (Yes.it must be installable) i'd be most appreciative. Douglas Wagner p.s. I know this is proably the third time this has come up on the list within the last month and a half..I apoligize and i'll stop after this one..:) --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DOS card and socket services
What You'd need to do this thorough Linux is the following... A dos boot disk, Your linux boot disk. Backup your windows partitions thorough linux...then on a crash... You drop in through dos boot disk and create your partitions (fdisk the partitions and format each of them.) Then drop in through linux and do the linux setup. Once linux is up and running, mount the newly made dos partition and dump from tape to it. That should get your files back DON'T EXPECT TO BOOT INTO WINDOWS 98 . If 98 is anything like 95, the backup and restore of 98 probably will not reinstall the operating system well enough that you are seemlessly back into 98. I've found (at least with 95 and some of the older tape drives) that the backup and restore is great for keeping your files, but not for restoring your harddrive...you've always got to re-install your operating system. Douglas Wagner -Original Message- From: Avi Schwartz [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 1:38 PM To: Inspiron List Subject:DOS card and socket services Hi, I have the following problem: I am backing up my i7k Win98 partition using a tape drive that is connected to the machine through a PCMCIA card (bus toaster). I would like to create a boot disk that will allow me to restore the system in case of a disaster without having to install Win98 first. Unfortunately, Dell does not supply DOS card and socket services to enable me to create this boot disk. Any idea how can I do it? Another option I have, is to backup the vfat partition (the Win98 partition) from Linux for which I have a boot disk that loads the PCMCIA drivers. Would such a full restore work? Would I be able to restore the system from Linux in such a way that Win98 will not have to be installed first? Thanks, Avi -- Avi Schwartz.Stable System, n.: [EMAIL PROTECTED] result of shutting down Windows --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Which Linux flavours work well on the Inspiron
I know i'm going to get flamed to death on this one (puts on the flame retardent suit) but frankly IMHO it really doesn't matter what flavor of LINUX you use. All of them have some type of X-win, the interface is the same to all of them, and the kernel should be the most recent version (only one set of source). Pico, VI and Emacs will still be there, Pine will still be the mail reader of choice, gcc and g++ will still rock on any of those systems and none of it will crash unless you really really really try...so imho, nope..it doesn't matter. The only difference you get is the number of applications and the type of installations and a few different utilities between the versions. Other than those little extrasyou could ship 1 version of Linux. Douglas Wagner -Original Message- From: Houghton, Gareth [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 04, 1999 7:56 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject:Which Linux flavours work well on the Inspiron From reading the messages I see people are using Red Hat and Debian in I7Ks. What other flavours are working well ? Is anyone using S.U.S.E. ? Or does it not make any difference as long as you have a recent kernel and XFree server ? thanks gareth --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Which Linux flavours work well on the Inspiron
Well said and agreed Brian. By the way...is the Neomagic Chipset for all neomagic cards now being supported by XF86 naturally, or is XBF/MetroX/AccelX still a necessity to support the NeoMagic? -Original Message- From: Brian Stempel [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 04, 1999 3:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Which Linux flavours work well on the Inspiron On 4-Jan-99 at 14:53, Douglas Wagner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: *Snip* There is also the difference in boot script styles, some (like redhat) use a SYS Vish style, while others (like slackware) use BSD. Also, the distributions vary slightly in their choices for common paths... for example, /usr/lib/terminfo vs. usr/share/terminfo, etc. Also keep in mind that some distributions use different versions of system (or other) libraries, and this can be an initial source of headaches WRT application compatibility. Still, these should not affect how well linux runs on the inspirons, as the most important factor is the kernel itself, and next in line (IMHO) is the X server, whether it's XBF, newer XFree86's, MetroX, or XInside. Brian --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MP3 Static
Heehe, that's my page. As far as the 3K goes, i've not yet had the ability to get the CS card to work. if I do find (or if someone out there gets me) the correct CS options for the 3K, i'll post them back up on nts.ml.org and have a good soundcard supported..:) Douglas Wagner -Original Message- From: Travis Bauer [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 20, 1998 11:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: MP3 Static Thanks, that sounds good. The website I was looking at (nts.ml.org/inspiron) said that you should have 6859 UART, MIDI interface support, and FM Synthesizer support as well as the SB options. Did you have these as well, or only the crystal sound option, along with /dev/dsp support? Thanks, TB On Mon, 21 Dec 1998, you wrote: |Here's my advice--I don't know what the website said, but you need |to use the Crystal Sound option.. CS4??? somethingorother in the kernel. --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Configuring X (RHL 5.2)?
If you want my opinion, i'd say stick with the distribution's red hat server. XBF is a great thign don't get me wrong..but it screws up so many packages (or at least my copy did) that i'm STILL feeling the effects from it about 8 months later (just found out that ddd doesn't work on my machine because gdb is screwed, and i'm pretty damn sure I re-installed that package when I went to XBF). Anyway, i'd stick with the redhat server..it's not as nice from what I hear (i've not seen it) but It won't screw up any other packages on the system either. Douglas Wagner -Original Message- From: Saeid Zoonematkermani [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 21, 1998 11:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Configuring X (RHL 5.2)? Hi, I recently purchased an I3200 and attempted to install Linux on it this past weekend. I have installed Linux on Alpha boxes before so I did not think that this would be that much different. I got Red Hat 5.2 since it is supposed to have NeoMagic support and it did recognize the card during the installation. The installation was successful but the problem is that I can't start the X server, I just get a black screen. When I installed Linux on my Alpha, a proper XConfig file was produced during the installation and I have never had to tinker with it. I suspect that I gave the wrong refresh and/or sync rates for the monitor during this installaion. So I was wondering if any one has recently installed RHL 5.2 and how the X confgiuration was done. Should I forget about XFree86 and download the XBF package? Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, - Saeid -- Saeid Zoonematkermani Dept. of Physics Astronomy State University of New York Stony Brook, NY 11794-3800 EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://ozone.ess.sunysb.edu/ Voice: (+1) (516) 632-8237 Fax: (+1) (516) 632-8742 --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 3c575-tx on I7k
Odd, i've never had that problem with my card...*ponder* I'd say first of all, get 2.0.6? 3.0.6? Whicher the most recent version of pcmciacs is. Then try that. The newest version of the pcmcia drivers supports that card out of the box (or so i'm told). Realize also that there are 2 makes of that card. The older type should work wiht no problem with those instructions (i've got one and it's fine), but the newer card may or may not work. 3com changed the drivers and dell re-made the card..so it may not be fully backward compatable with the older 575-tx (at least that's what i've found...I GAURENTEE the newest 3com drivers WON"T WORK with the older cards). Douglas Wagner -Original Message- From: Kevin Haas [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 21, 1998 12:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:3c575-tx on I7k First of all kudos to everyone on this list. I received my I7k only 4 days before I left the country on the trip which I needed the laptop but thanks to this list I got everything up and running in time. I'm now trying to get the 3c575-tx working. I followed the directions at http://nts.ml.org/inspiron and it seemed to work OK. The problem is that I can only stay on the network for a few minutes before the network connection locks up. Also, if I transfer any decent sized files the network connection dies. I have to do a "network stop" and a "network start" to get it working again, and then it's still only temporary. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Kevin Kevin A Haas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Center for Applied Coastal Research University of Delaware 302-831-6550 --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist .html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 3c575-tx on I7k
Agreed..i'd like to know..i'll add it to the pages if anyone would be kind enough to give me a clue as to what the hell is happening. Anyone with an older card experienced this problem? (Probably bought before may, and it would have been shipped only on the 3K, I think the 3200 is newer than the older 575tx cards) Douglas Wagner -Original Message- From: Vijaykumar Krishnaswamy [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 21, 1998 4:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: 3c575-tx on I7k When i initially set up the system, i used the pcmcia-cs-3.0.5 and everything seemd to work fine.Later when i updated it ot the 3.0.6 version, i started getting the very same problems.(ie, the network starts but hangs after a while.a network reset by /etc/rc.d/init.d/network stop followed by /etc/rc.d/init.d/network start eth0 restored the network but once again only for a while).So i cleaned up all the 3.0.6 modules and rebuilt the 3.0.5 version.Now once again everything seems to be working fine.so may be you should try rebuilding the pcmcia modules with the 3.0.5 version. hope this helps. vijay. ps : if any one know what exactly is the problem.I would very much appreciate it, if they could post it on to the newsgroup. _ _,-.__ _,-.__,-._,-._/| ._,-' \_,-._/ [_,-:_ _,-._ `-^-._,-' _,-._/`-^-._,-' | | Vijaykumar Krishnaswamy, Phone : (404) 607 0773(H) | |Ph.D. Student Phone : (404) 894 5620(O) | |Georgia Tech, .Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | College of Computing |\ Logged onto : skye.cc.gatech.edu | !_,-._,-^-._,--._/`:_,-' \__,-._/`-^-^-._/\_,-'\__,-^-._/`-._/\_,-'-._| --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist .html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Wordperfect for Linux
This can actually be fixed very quickly. If you go into your .profile (in your home directory) or into /etc/profile (if you are doing this globaly for all users) and find your "PATH=" statement. Add "." to the "PATH=" line and you will be able to run anything without doing that ./... thing. Reason it is happening is that when you type a command on a unix shell prompt, it will only run things either explicitly or if it's in the path. If "." (Current directory) is not in the path, and the directory you're in isn't one that's in the path normally (Like /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin, etc.) then the shell doesn't know that's a runnable command. Douglas Wagner -Original Message- From: Leon Wood [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 20, 1998 9:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Wordperfect for Linux -Original Message- From: marvin stodolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: December 20, 1998 2:58 PM Subject: Re: Wordperfect for Linux Open Wordperfect with the xwp in wpbin, not wplib. Thanks for the help. I found out what the trick is on the Corel news server. You have to type ./xwp, not xwp. A simple but strange annoyance. Leon --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: onto the arguement of win/linux--re: Druppy
-Original Message- From: Peter Bailey [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 7:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:onto the arguement of win/linux--re: Druppy Anyway, my point is that the major shortcoming of Linux is the fact that large vendors don't want to risk losing money by making products for it. This is not a problem with the operating system, it's a problem with the general public and their doodie-in-a-pretty-box-will-sell mentality. Actually, IMHO I think you may be missing something. LINUX Especially is still looked upon as the "college kids" operating system. I attempted to install gcc/g++ on a solaris and aix server and my boss about shit. The fact of the matter is if it's UNIX and it doesn't cost $2000 for the os, or doesn't ship on a server with a different archetcture than intel, it is in no way shape or form going to be used by major corporations for anything more than a webserver/router/firewall. At least, that's what i've seen in the 5 or 6 different places i've directly worked for and in the 50 some odd companies i've consulted for. * I would also just state, for the fun of it, that pico/notepad/edlin/edit or whatever are mainly what I use to write papers. It's all good to make your paper look all silly and hope that if the font is pretty your paper will be better, but if a person is honestly reading it, it doesn't matter. I would much rather get a complement on a paper, than how nice it looked. ** Semi Off topic (in comment to wordprocessing with a text editor not in comment to * windows vs linux.) I sincerely hope you aren't still in college...I honestly hope you've got about 15 to 20 years experience in the business field you are in, because that last statement is completely 180 degrees from how the real world feals. I've worked closely for a time in hiering people, and I gaurentee if your resume doesn't look decent, it's either on teh bottom of the pile or in the wastebasket, depending on howmany resume's i've got to go through. If i've got 200 applicants for 2 positions (not uncommon) I gaurentee i'm going to use anything I can to weed people out. If you make it through the first cut, your resume will definately not make it through the second if you're using a text based word processor or a text editor to type it up...it simply looks unprofessional. Many studies have been done by many people that claim a 10 to 30% increase on a paper that looks nice as opposed to one that is done on a text processor or typed. If you could get by with a text editor (like wordpad) why don't people type their resume's anymore? Douglas Wagner :) --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Li ion battery life inspiron 3200
Um, have I missed something here? When did PC-Mag go on the shit list to computer users? Douglas Wagner -Original Message- From: Justin Scott Shriver [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 17, 1998 2:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Li ion battery life inspiron 3200 On Thu, 17 Dec 1998, Ned Bedinger wrote: Also, note that PC magazine (no hate mail please) does a reasonable job of giving realistic run times. --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: re-installing Win98 on a freshly repartitioned machine
Oh dear...this was NOT the question to bring up on this list with me on it as I have JUST went through the HUGE PAIN IN THE ASS of re-installing a dell inspiron system (sorry, it's a great question and the right place to post it, just that I've recently gone through the process and have MANY complaints that i'm about to let out now..:). Let me put it this way...before you do ANYTHING MAKE SURE YOU HAVE EVERY DRIVER IN EXISTANCE for your machine backed up on disk...don't assume anything. Dell does not ship the correct network card drivers (actually they don't ship any at all..they expect you do download them from 3com, how the hell you are supposed to do that without a network card I have no f*ing clue, and even then the network drivers on 3com's home page DON'T SUPPORT THE DELL NETWORK CARD.) They did, however, ship me cd-rom drivers...that don't support the cdrom drive I have (the one dell ships by default btw..not a special order). I had to use another computer on my desk to download those. Oh yea..and I had to spend approximately 5 hours on the phone with dell tech support before they would send me the drivers for the DELL 3c575-tx card that they ship, they arn't on the ftp or download web sites. After making completely sure that you have EVERY DRIVER for your computer ON DISK, then pop a blank floppy into your drive, type: format a: /u/s and hit enter. let it format the floppy and install the boot files to it. Then, you need to find your cd-rom driver on diskette (if you are running 95 or 98 I gaurentee it won't be on the damn hard drive, it couldn't be that easy) and copy it to your boot floppy. Copy format.com, fdisk.exe(or com wich ever it is), edit.com, mscdex.exe, and sys.com from the \windows\command directory to your boot floppy, and copy the himem.sys file from \windows to your disk as well. Now, you need to create a config.sys and autoexec.bat file. config.sys: device=a:\himem.sys device=a:\cdromdriver /d:cdrom autoexec.bat: a:\mscdex.exe /d:cdrom or something like that. That will get you a bootable floppy that loads the cdrom driver at boot and has the ability to fdisk, format, and sys the harddrive. It also has the edit.com file on it so that you can modify the config and autoexec file in case of errors. Now, BOOT THE FLOPPY. When the CD-ROM drivers fail to load (and they probably will since dell probably sent you the wrong damn CD-Drivers), reboot into windows and download a cd-driver that works and go through the above process all over again. If by some freak chance of god it does work (you've just has a miracle preformed before you, make sure to thank whatever god you believe in) double check that you have every driver you could possibly want on your system on floppy and that the floppy's work. THEN and ONLY THEN should you reboot your system OFF the floppy disk, insert the win98 or 95 cd into the drive and try to read it...if you read it go back to a: and fdisk and format your C: drive, sys is on there for no real purpose except in case something screws up you can sys your HD and do something..I don't know what but at least your HD would be bootable at that point.. Anyway, once your system is fdisked and formatted, you have all the drivers you need to reinstall, you can access the cd drive, and you have the win98/95 cd in the drive, then start the re-install of 98/95 FIRST. Get it set up completely first. If you do linux first (and it's tempting to set up a decent workable os first as opposed to one that crashes once for each 15 hours it's running at least) then when you install 95/98, it will blow away lilo. Anyway, set up 98/95 get it up and running, install all the drivers (and call dell tech support to get the ones you missed or that don't work..again this is sort of inevatable, just don't let them dish you off to another company...all dell shipped parts are supported directly by dell), and once 95 is back and working again (took me about 2 days time for htis one..and i've been in the network admin/IS indutry for about 6 years now) then put your boot floppy in the drive and go through the (compairitivly) seemless install of Linux on your Inspiron. As you read about 45 minutes ago (this is a long e-mail), I warned you that this was a bad question to ask of a person who just went through this living hell..*snicker* Anyway, on a more serious note, I've delt with re-installing computers for many many years, and I've NEVER seen this much crap and inefficiency in a company as i've seen with Dell. The only redeaming factor about Dell and the inspiron is.well.let me get back to you on that one. Doug Wagner p.s. Any comments to the above can be directed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you've got a bitch or complaint about dell you'd like posted but havint had the time or inclination, i'm starting a page to do just that...:) Your name will be attached
DHCP And Apache
Ok..speaking of DHCP anyone out there know how to hack Apache Web Server so that when on a DHCP network where there is no DNS entry, Apache will still start up? If you don't know what i'm talking about i'm not surprised, if you do you've probably fixed it already..:) Anyway, when I try to start httpd, I get the "can't lookup host name" or something like that. Basicaly, since I don't have a set IP, I can't start Apache..anyone know of a way to do it? I'm sort of down to finding out what my current IP is and setting my system name in the hosts table to the current DHCP IP address...by the way...how do I find out what my current IP is? Doug Wagner -Original Message- From: Travis Bauer [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 13, 1998 6:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:A little bit closer. It is recognizing etherfast. Thanks for the note on virtual consoles. I looked at the verbose console, and the ethernet card is working. Here is the problem now. I type in the ftp site name and the path, and it says "I cannot log into machine: Unable to lookup FTP server host name." It does not even seem to try. I'm trying to get to sunsite.unc.edu. Typing in the ip address gives a similar error. I'm on a DHCP network, and eth0 was able to get an ip address, net mask, etc. Question 1:Why can't it get out? Question2: What would the correct path be to sunsite to do the FTP install? Thanks, Travis --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Inspiron 3200 Shutdown
Yep...reconfigure the kernel and turn on APM and shutdown system support (like the very next option after enable APM.) On a shutdown -h (shutdown Halt, not shutdown reboot) linux will poweroff the system. Doug Wagner -Original Message- From: Shaun Patston [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 13, 1998 7:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Inspiron 3200 Shutdown Is is possible to have Redhat 5.1 power down my Inspiron 3200 at the end of shutdown? Regards Shaun Patston --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://nts.ml.org FAQ: http://www.ps.uci.edu/~tomba/inspiron/ http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/ List Archives: http://nts.ml.org/inspiron/maillist.html To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List administrator:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
