Tom,
> On Mar 21, 2024, at 2:20 PM, Tom Herbert
> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 8:36 PM Toerless Eckert wrote:
>>
>> Btw: When i asked on of the 6MAN chairs, about the meaning of an Internet
>> Protocol
>> Number being an "IPv6 Extension Header" or not, the answer was that in his
>>
Warren,
Just to confirm, this is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chroboczek-int-v4-via-v6/
currently at -02. Correct?
I think this is a good idea and support it. I will try to review it and
provide more comments. The ICMP behavior is an interesting problem.
Bob
> On Jan 22,
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 8:33 PM Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
>> wrote:
>>> Without any hat, I agree with Bob.
>>>
>>> This I-D should eventually go to 6MAN WG though (with my AD hat)
>>>
>>> -éric
>>>
>>> On
Tal,
I did a quick read of your draft.
As noted in the draft this seems to be very similar to ICMPv6 Echo/Echo Reply.
The change is to include the request packet in the response, not just the
payload.
While I don’t have any real opinion on the need for this, I do think it would
be a lot
Lin,
I did a quick read of this draft.It doesn’t appear to discuss several
important issues related to MAC address and IP address binding. These includes:
Random Mac address assignments (there is an IETF w.g. MADINAS working in this
area)
IPv6 Interface ID assignments (see RFC7217 , RFC
Donald,
I looked at the diff. This resolves all of the issues I raised.
Thanks!
Bob
> On May 12, 2023, at 9:38 AM, Donald Eastlake wrote:
>
> This revision includes the improvements suggested by Bob Hinden and
> has updated author info.
>
>
d E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
> 2386 Panoramic Circle, Apopka, FL 32703 USA
> d3e...@gmail.com <mailto:d3e...@gmail.com>
>
> On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 11:42 PM Bob Hinden <mailto:bob.hin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Donald,
>
>> On May 9, 2023, at 6:37
Donald,
> On May 9, 2023, at 6:37 PM, Donald Eastlake wrote:
>
> Hi Bob,
>
> On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 11:29 AM Bob Hinden <mailto:bob.hin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I generally support advancing this document, but
Hi,
I generally support advancing this document, but I noticed an issue that should
be resolved.
In Section 2.2.1. "IPv6 Use of Modified EUI‑64 Identifiers”.The contents is
technically correct, but it should also mention that this type of IPv6
Interface Identifiers are no longer
Bob,
It’s only the draft file name, you can change the title of the document and
keep the same file number. That would make it easier to see the evolution of
the work.
Chag Sameach!
Bob
> On Apr 5, 2023, at 10:58 AM, Robert Moskowitz
> wrote:
>
> The origin draft only was discussing
Don,
Adding a procedure describing how to obtain an Ethertype for IETF work seems
reasonable to me as well.
Bob
> On Nov 10, 2022, at 12:24 PM, Donald Eastlake wrote:
>
> During the INTAREA WG meeting yesterday, there was a desire expressed
> to include in the rfc7042bis draft an explicit
I support adoption. I have reviewed the draft and think it is reasonable to
assign an IP Protocol Number for SCHC.
Bob
> On Sep 13, 2022, at 7:15 PM, Wassim Haddad
> wrote:
>
> Dear IntArea WG,
>
> We are starting a 2-week call for adoption of “Internet Protocol Number for
> SCHC” draft:
IPv6 (in
>>>> IPv6). Or UDP (with carrying an application protocol or carrying
>>>> some routing header like GRE, LISP, ...) or ...
>>>>
>>>> Yours,
>>>>
>>>> Joel
>>>>
>>>> PS: I grant we are not f
next-header field. (AH does). But if we are going to pretend that some
> headers are extensions headers and some are not, we should try to be
> consistent with the description in 8200 (and 2460).
>
> On 9/7/2022 4:57 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 9/
Bob,
> On Sep 7, 2022, at 1:53 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>
>
>
> On 9/7/22 16:04, Bob Hinden wrote:
>> Bob,
>>
>> To clarify my question, it only relates to if SCHC should be added to the
>> IPv6 Extension Header Types registry. I continue to thin
t; On 9/7/22 15:15, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>> On 2022-09-07, at 18:36, Bob Hinden wrote:
>>> Is this an IPv6 extension header?Does SCHC include a next header field
>>> so it can point to a header that follows?
>> If you haven’t seen RFC 5856 to 5858: This is
ion
> draft-moskowitz-intarea-schc-ip-protocol-number
>
>
> As was discussed at the INTAREA meeting at IETF 114,
>
> I request that a call for WG adoption of this draft.
>
> I have made draft name change and edits per Bob Hinden.
>
> As I said earlier, there is a lot of work
h. Or just leave it as TBD, unless you care about what number
is assigned.
>
> I look forward to your response, then I will push out a new ver.
Hope this is helpful.
>
> Bob M. (are there as many 'Bobs' as "Steves" here ;) )
:-)
Bob
>
>
>
> On 9/6/
Bob,
Once there is an adoption call, I will support it.
I did a quick read of the draft and have a few suggestions, mostly editorial.
Please be careful with the terminology. The registry where you are asking for
an assignment is called “Internet Protocol Numbers”. I was confused by the
I support the adoption of this document. Good to have this all written down
in one place.
Bob
> On Aug 31, 2022, at 10:42 AM, Juan Carlos Zuniga (juzuniga)
> wrote:
>
> Dear IntArea WG,
>
> We are starting a 2-week call for adoption of IANA Considerations and IETF
> Protocol and
Hi,
I agree with the other comments that this shouldn’t be adopted at this point.
Another point is that what I understand this is proposing would appear to have
non-trivial effect on current transport protocols, as it will add delay to
create the “parcels”. I don’t see this issue discussed in
> On Mar 15, 2022, at 3:31 PM, to...@strayalpha.com wrote:
>
>> On Mar 15, 2022, at 1:04 PM, Brian E Carpenter
>> wrote:
>>
>> FWIW I do not consider the minor wastage of IPv4 addresses that
>> the same authors are concerned about to be serious enough to need
>> fixing.
>
> +1 on that,
Seth,
> On Aug 2, 2021, at 5:14 PM, Seth David Schoen wrote:
>
> Bob Hinden writes:
>
>> Seth,
>>
>> Do I understand correctly, that you are proposing that all hosts, routers,
>> firewalls, middle boxes, etc. on the Internet, be updated in order to g
Seth,
Do I understand correctly, that you are proposing that all hosts, routers,
firewalls, middle boxes, etc. on the Internet, be updated in order to get a
single extra IP address per subnet? Plus then having to deal with the
complexities of mixed implementations for a very long transition
g?
Bob
>
> Thank you!
>
> Best regards,
> Shuping
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Bob Hinden [mailto:bob.hin...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 11:49 PM
>> To: Pengshuping (Peng Shuping)
>> Cc: Bob Hinden ; int-area@
Hi Shuping,
> On Mar 12, 2021, at 7:34 AM, Pengshuping (Peng Shuping)
> wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> Please find below the FAQs I listed in the slides but did not get time to
> present. Your comments and feedback are very much welcomed. Thank you!
>
> You can also find the slides here. There
I have read the emails and the draft . I
am not clear what the goal of the BOF is.
Could the proponents state it clearly?
From the agenda, Use Cases:
• LAN gateway NAPT forwarding - (PRESENTER TBD)
• Static NAPT policies - (PRESENTER TBD)
• Persistent DHCP IP address
Good, thanks.
Bob
> On Aug 27, 2020, at 12:19 PM, Vladimir Olteanu
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Oops, it should be "Standards Track". I'll fix it in the next version.
>
> Thanks for pointing that out.
>
> Vlad
>
> On 8/27/20 10:15 PM, Bob Hinden w
HI,
Why is the intended status Experimental?
RFC1928 was standards track, nor do I see any mention of experiments in the
draft.
Bob
> On Aug 26, 2020, at 12:33 PM, Juan Carlos Zuniga
> wrote:
>
> Dear IntArea WG,
>
> Now with the summer almost over and following the strong support shown
Fred,
> On Apr 17, 2020, at 10:23 AM, Templin (US), Fred L
> wrote:
>
> Hi Bob,
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Bob Hinden [mailto:bob.hin...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 9:38 AM
>> To: Templin (US), Fred L
>> Cc: Bob Hi
Fred,
> On Apr 16, 2020, at 2:36 PM, Templin (US), Fred L
> wrote:
>
> Hi, two important documents in this wg have been sitting idle for a long time
> and
> perhaps it is time to start moving them forward again. The documents are: "IP
> Fragmentation Considered Fragile", and "IP Tunnels in
; be cancelling the IntArea WG session for IETF 107.
> We are sorry about the inconvenience.
> If you are interested in presenting at a future virtual or physical (IETF
> 108) meeting, please contact Wassim and myself.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Wassim H.
>
>
>
Is there going to be an Int Area interim meeting scheduled? Or did I miss it?
Bob
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Rob,
What exactly do you mean by GPS over wifi?
Do you mean sending location/course/speed/etc. data over wifi? Or somehow
replicating the actual GPS satellite data?
I don’t see how the latter would work giving the timing requirements.
There are lots of current practice in sending NMEA
Greg,
> On Oct 23, 2019, at 6:44 AM, Greg Mirsky wrote:
>
> Dear Authors, et al.,
> I have a rather benign question the new registry requested in Section 8.3.
> The draft states that the whole 1-127 range is "RFC required" per RFC 5226.
> Firstly, a nit - RFC 5226 has been obsoleted by RFC
Joe,
> On Sep 28, 2019, at 8:05 AM, Joe Touch wrote:
>
> Hi, David,
>
> Although I appreciate new interest in trying this experiment, that’s not what
> I was asking.
>
> My understanding of the logic is as follows:
> - IPv4 in-header options aren’t supported
> - so let’s make a
Adrian,
> On Sep 22, 2019, at 8:20 AM, Adrian Farrel wrote:
>
> Hi Bob,
>
>> I think it would be fine for this draft to request a new one that accurately
>> described its usage.
>
> For what it's worth, the assignment policy for the registry is IESG Approval
> or Standards Action.
>
> The
Brian, Joe,
> On Sep 20, 2019, at 8:23 PM, Brian E Carpenter
> wrote:
>
> On 21-Sep-19 14:11, Joe Touch wrote:
>> FWIW, there are many registries with such “dead” entries.
>
> 114 is a bit special. By definition, all our normal traffic monitoring
> techniques will *never* see protocol 114
Andy,
> On Sep 20, 2019, at 10:37 AM, Andrew G. Malis wrote:
>
> Behcet,
>
> That was a historical list. The current assignments are in
> https://www.iana.org/assignments/protocol-numbers/protocol-numbers.xhtml ..
> If you want to go garbage collecting, that's the place to start.
It's
Fred,
> On Sep 11, 2019, at 7:48 AM, Templin (US), Fred L
> wrote:
>
> Geoff, the 1280 MTU came from Steve Deering's November 13, 1997 proposal to
> the ipngwg. The exact message from the ipng archives is reproduced below.
>
> 1280 isn't just a recommendation - it's *the law*. Any link that
Ole,
> On Sep 6, 2019, at 9:03 AM, Ole Troan wrote:
>
>
> This document should not recommend IP in UDP in IP encapsulation to achieve
> end to end IP fragmentation for new applications.
The document doesn’t say that, nor is the document recommending this. The
current text Joe and I
Ole,
> On Sep 6, 2019, at 9:03 AM, Ole Troan wrote:
>
>
> This document should not recommend IP in UDP in IP encapsulation to achieve
> end to end IP fragmentation for new applications.
The document doesn’t say that, nor is the document recommending this. The
current text Joe and I
Ron
>>
>>
>> Juniper Business Use Only
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Bob Hinden
>> Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 2:29 PM
>> To: int-area@ietf.org
>> Cc: Bob Hinden ; Alissa Cooper ;
&
Tom,
> On Sep 5, 2019, at 12:53 PM, Tom Herbert wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 11:29 AM Bob Hinden wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Based on the discussion, I would like to propose to see if this will resolve
>> the issues raised. It attempts to cover the
Fred,
> On Sep 5, 2019, at 12:57 PM, Templin (US), Fred L
> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Your effort is appreciated, but IMHO does not quite go far enough. Here is
>>> a proposed edit:
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>>
>>> OLD:
>>> Protocols and applications that rely on IP
>>> fragmentation will work less
thers.
Bob
>
> Thanks - Fred
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Int-area [mailto:int-area-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bob Hinden
>> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2019 11:29 AM
>> To: int-area@ietf.org
>> Cc: IESG ; Joel Halpern ;
>> dra
Hi,
Based on the discussion, I would like to propose to see if this will resolve
the issues raised. It attempts to cover the issues raised.
The full section 6.1 is included below, but only the last sentence in the
second paragraph changed.
Please review and comment.
Thanks,
Bob
6.1.
Fred,
> On Sep 4, 2019, at 7:23 AM, Templin (US), Fred L
> wrote:
>
> Bob,
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Bob Hinden [mailto:bob.hin...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 5:08 PM
>> To: Templin (US), Fred L
>> Cc: Bob Hinde
Tom,
> On Sep 3, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Tom Herbert wrote:
>>
>> The relevant text in -16 is:
>>
>> 6.1. For Application and Protocol Developers
>>
>> Developers SHOULD NOT develop new protocols or applications that rely
>> on IP fragmentation. When a new protocol or application is deployed
Fred,
> On Sep 3, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Templin (US), Fred L
> wrote:
>
> Bob,
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Bob Hinden [mailto:bob.hin...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 1:57 PM
>> To: Tom Herbert
>> Cc: Bob Hinden ; Templ
Joe,
> On Aug 30, 2019, at 4:36 PM, Joe Touch wrote:
>
> Hi, all,
>
> I disagree with the changes indicated in this version.
>
> The new text is both incorrect does not IMO reflect WG consensus.
>
> It is simply false that "it WILL break" or "new protocols can't possibly know
> whether
is mentioned in
> the introduction.
I am serving as document editor. This to my understanding has been through
w.g. last call and now IESG review.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 1:01 PM Bob Hinden wrote:
>>
>&
Manoj,
> On Aug 17, 2019, at 8:05 AM, Manoj Nayak
> wrote:
>
>
> Folks,
>
> We have posted 01 version of the draft “Probing IP Interfaces By Vendor
> Specific Identifiers”.
> This draft is extension to PROBE [RFC8335] diagnostic tool. The tool is
> extended so that the
> tool can
Joel,
> On Aug 15, 2019, at 7:00 AM, Joel Halpern wrote:
>
> Bob was going to engage Alissa in a conversation. Bob, have you gotten
> anywhere? I think she may be on vacation.
I sent Alissa some proposed text, but got back what I interpreted as a vacation
email. I note there is an IESG
Tom,
> On Apr 8, 2019, at 11:01 AM, Tom Herbert wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have posted a draft describing IPv4 extension headers an flow
> labels. Previously this was in draft-herbert-ipv4-udpencap-eh-01, but
> it seems like this is an important topic in its own right.
>
> I would like to
>
>
>> Am 31.10.2018 um 16:52 schrieb Bob Hinden :
>>
>> Mirja,
>>
>> I don’t see an abstract for "Privacy and Security Issues in IPv6 Deployment”
>> talk on the agenda page you linked. Is that available?
>>
>> Bob
>>
&
Mirja,
I don’t see an abstract for "Privacy and Security Issues in IPv6 Deployment”
talk on the agenda page you linked. Is that available?
Bob
> On Oct 31, 2018, at 5:09 AM, Mirja Kühlewind
> wrote:
>
> Hi int floks,
>
> we will have a short heads-up talk on Privacy and Security Issues in
Joe,
> On Mar 5, 2018, at 7:01 AM, Joe Touch wrote:
>
> This doc completely overlooks the role of fragmentation in IP over IP
> tunneling and the reason fragmentation is critical (IP has a maximum packet
> size, not just a minimum).
>
> See draft-ietf-intarea-tunnels.
Xiaohu,
This document should refer to the new versions of the IPv6 and IPv6 PMTU RFCs
specifications (RFC8200 and RFC8201). Please check if you need to change any
text in your draft to be consistent with these.
Thanks,
Bob
> On Oct 17, 2017, at 6:42 PM, Xuxiaohu wrote:
>>
>> If you are interested in participating in the work mentioned above, please
>> respond to this mail expressing your support by October 17, 2017.
>>
> The draft and the concept have been thoroughly discussed on int-area
> list (twice). I don't see that the problem is worth solving, the
>
6man as well, depending on what is in the actual document.
Bob
> On Oct 3, 2017, at 1:42 AM, Samita Chakrabarti wrote:
>
> Thanks Suresh, for sharing the information. It looks quite relevant to 6lo WG
> workarea. We, 6lo-chairs will contact Scott and the ITU-T contact
Hi Eric,
> On Oct 2, 2017, at 7:04 AM, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) wrote:
>
> Bob,
>
> Thanks for your support and more important for your review!
Happy to help.
>
> [Would I dare to say that it was hard to spot your email inside the IPv10
> flood? ;-) ]
I didn’t notice yours
> On Oct 1, 2017, at 10:10 PM, Suresh Krishnan
> wrote:
>
>
>> On Oct 2, 2017, at 12:38 AM, Melinda Shore wrote:
>>
>> On 10/1/17 8:13 PM, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
>>> I have a proposal for the chairs: solicit interest in pursuing the
>>>
Hi,
I read the document and have some comments.
Overall I think working on Provisioning Domains is fine in Int-Area, but I
think the document has issues that need to be resolved. I will leave it for
the w.g. chairs to decide if they need to be fixed before or after adoption.
Specific
This was discussed in the 6man session at IETF96. See:
https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/96/slides/slides-96-6man-4.pdf
Minutes, audio, video:
https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/96/6man.html
Bob
> On Nov 29, 2016, at 8:36 PM, Suresh Krishnan
> wrote:
>
> Hi
Support.
Bob
On Dec 18, 2012, at 4:45 AM, Suresh Krishnan wrote:
Hi all,
This draft has been presented at intarea face to face meetings and has
received a bit of discussion. It has been difficult to gauge whether the
wg is interested in this work or not. This call is being initiated to
Fred,
This sounds a lot like Mobile IPv6 with the extension that the client can
change home agents if the client get's too far away from where the the home
agent is. I am sure the details are different, but the functionality sounds
similar.
Bob
On Jun 14, 2011, at 5:12 AM, Templin, Fred L
On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
I think it's a little sad that we have to state the painfully obvious but I
support the sentiment unequivocally.
+6
Bob
joel
On Jun 2, 2011, at 4:53 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
I support adoption of this draft as well.
- Jared
On Aug 31, 2010, at 11:33 AM, Dan Wing wrote:
A paper was published in 2004 which analyzed the success of new IP options
and new TCP options,
Measuring Interactions Between Transport Protocols and Middleboxes
Alberto Medina, Mark Allman, Sally Floyd
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