Re: [Interest] Qt Creator licensing for companies with Qt Commercial developers

2020-03-27 Thread Elvis Stansvik
Den fre 27 mars 2020 kl 20:08 skrev : > > Hi. > > Tuuka clearly stated, that you wouldn't violate GPL of the (OS-) > QtCreator, **but** you'd violate your commercial contract with Qt. > > If the commercial contract says, you are not allowed to have a cat in > the house and you've signed that

Re: [Interest] Qt Creator licensing for companies with Qt Commercial developers

2020-03-27 Thread Tomas Konir
I'm not sure how it works worldwide, but for example in Czech Republic. Contract for one product can't forbid you to use another product. It is not legal. Commercial QtCreator and Open Source QtCreator are two different products. We are talking about two people who both are editing same code (not

Re: [Interest] Qt Creator licensing for companies with Qt Commercial developers

2020-03-27 Thread mail
Hi. Tuuka clearly stated, that you wouldn't violate GPL of the (OS-) QtCreator, **but** you'd violate your commercial contract with Qt. If the commercial contract says, you are not allowed to have a cat in the house and you've signed that contract - then youd better get rid of Garfield. It

Re: [Interest] Qt Creator licensing for companies with Qt Commercial developers

2020-03-27 Thread Michael Jackson
OK, Here goes the explanations of how to interoperate with Qt Software packages. IANAL. We will start from the easy and work our way towards difficult. QtCreator: QtCreator is free. You, as a developer of software, can use QtCreator as your IDE to develop your own software. The GPL license of

Re: [Interest] Qt Creator licensing for companies with Qt Commercial developers

2020-03-27 Thread alexander golks
Am Fri, 27 Mar 2020 17:11:16 +0100 schrieb Jean-Michaël Celerier : > It is also the license of the binaries that you can download there : > https://download.qt.io/official_releases/qtcreator/4.11/4.11.1/ > > And it states quite succintly : > "This License explicitly affirms your unlimited

Re: [Interest] Qt Creator licensing for companies with Qt Commercial developers

2020-03-27 Thread Jean-Michaël Celerier
It is also the license of the binaries that you can download there : https://download.qt.io/official_releases/qtcreator/4.11/4.11.1/ And it states quite succintly : "This License explicitly affirms your unlimited permission to run the unmodified Program." > but if you just use qtcreator, just

Re: [Interest] Qt Creator licensing for companies with Qt Commercial developers

2020-03-27 Thread alexander golks
Am Fri, 27 Mar 2020 16:45:55 +0100 schrieb Jean-Michaël Celerier : > > Answer to this is: No, it is not allowed to mix commercial "Licensed > Software" and the open-source versions provided by The Qt Company in the > same project. > > What about open-source versions provided by another

Re: [Interest] Qt Creator licensing for companies with Qt Commercial developers

2020-03-27 Thread Jean-Michaël Celerier
> Answer to this is: No, it is not allowed to mix commercial "Licensed Software" and the open-source versions provided by The Qt Company in the same project. What about open-source versions provided by another distributor, e.g. someone doing apt install qtcreator ? Also how is that compatible

Re: [Interest] Qt Creator licensing for companies with Qt Commercial developers

2020-03-27 Thread Andy
"This seems to become a longer thread than I envisioned, as apparently my original response was not clear enough." As I pointed out - it's because you're not answering the question that was asked, and therefore confusing the issue. "Is it still possible for the developers who don't use Qt

Re: [Interest] Qt Creator licensing for companies with Qt Commercial developers

2020-03-27 Thread Tuukka Turunen
Hi, This seems to become a longer thread than I envisioned, as apparently my original response was not clear enough. In general, if there are any questions or concerns related to licensing, check the FAQ: https://www.qt.io/faq/ If you are looking for advise on licensing, I recommend either

Re: [Interest] Qt Creator licensing for companies with Qt Commercial developers

2020-03-27 Thread Giuseppe D'Angelo via Interest
On 27/03/2020 15:03, Tomas Konir wrote: Sorry for possible misunderstanding, but i think, that original question was little different. Question was: There is company, where are two developer groups: Group1: Use QtCreator and works with QT libraries (and works with other code which not use

Re: [Interest] Qt Creator licensing for companies with Qt Commercial developers

2020-03-27 Thread Tomas Konir
Hi, Sorry for possible misunderstanding, but i think, that original question was little different. Question was: There is company, where are two developer groups: Group1: Use QtCreator and works with QT libraries (and works with other code which not use QT libraries). All users have Commercial

Re: [Interest] Qt Creator licensing for companies with Qt Commercial developers

2020-03-27 Thread Andy
"Is it still possible for the developers who don't use Qt libraries in any way, use Qt Creator IDE for editing and debugging?" I don't understand how you get: "The question was related to mixing open-source and commercial version of Qt in the same project." out of that question. I also don't

Re: [Interest] Qt Creator licensing for companies with Qt Commercial developers

2020-03-27 Thread Tuukka Turunen
Hi, The question was related to mixing open-source and commercial version of Qt in the same project. See Qt licensing FAQ: https://www.qt.io/faq/ It states in question 2.7.: ”Q: Can some developers in our team working on the same project use open-source version of Qt and some developers use

Re: [Interest] Qt Creator licensing for companies with Qt Commercial developers

2020-03-27 Thread Jakub Narolewski
Or is this only in case of ‘mixed env’ users – having both commercial and non-commercial licenses?  From: Jakub NarolewskiSent: 27 March 2020 14:27To: Jérôme Godbout; Tuukka Turunen; Vyacheslav Lanovets; interest@qt-project.orgSubject: RE: Re: [Interest] Qt Creator licensing for companies with Qt

Re: [Interest] Qt Creator licensing for companies with Qt Commercial developers

2020-03-27 Thread Jakub Narolewski
Maybe I misunderstood something so just correct me.If I use – commercially – QtCreator as my daily IDE without using Qt library or attached modules, I still need to pay for full Qt license? Cheers,Jakub Narolewski From: Jérôme GodboutSent: 27 March 2020 14:22To: Tuukka Turunen; Vyacheslav

Re: [Interest] Qt Creator licensing for companies with Qt Commercial developers

2020-03-27 Thread Jérôme Godbout
Hi, is it just me or this is heading into the wrong way, or at least into the opposite direction of the market. Most IDE are now free, even the embedded world start giving IDE away: xCode is free vs code is free Atollic is free STM32 TrueStudio is free ... People are leaving pricy IDE behind,

Re: [Interest] Qt Creator licensing for companies with Qt Commercial developers

2020-03-27 Thread Tuukka Turunen
Hi, Correct. All users need to have commercial license. It is not allowed for part of the team to use commercial and part use open-source. Even though Qt Creator is great, it can feel odd to pay for full Qt license and only use the Creator IDE. We have been thinking about selling Qt Creator