On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Hannes Magnusson
hannes.magnus...@gmail.com wrote:
Its not only about maintaining it.
This experiment failed a long time ago. Overwriting the core streams
has proven itself to be the wrong way.
I cannot agree more.
If there was a way for userspace to say
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Benjamin Eberlei kont...@beberlei.dewrote:
structs as in c# don't have methods, however DateTime has them. so
this doesn't work. What you can do is just pass all the data in the
constructor and then don't change it, and you have your value type that is
After discussing things over the PHP chat on Stack Overflow, I
realized I misread and missed the point.
Good suggestion, you have my +1.
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Richard Bradley
richard.brad...@softwire.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Benjamin Eberlei
On 04/05/2013 09:31 AM, Madara Uchiha wrote:
After discussing things over the PHP chat on Stack Overflow, I
realized I misread and missed the point.
Good suggestion, you have my +1.
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Richard Bradley
richard.brad...@softwire.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Hannes Magnusson
hannes.magnus...@gmail.com wrote:
Its not only about maintaining it.
This experiment failed a long time ago. Overwriting the core streams
has proven itself to be the
After I saw this question on Stack Overflow:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15688642/how-does-a-class-extension-or-interface-work,
I realized that the guy was right.
Is there an explanation for this, or is it just one of those things
that got overlooked?
Should something be done? (i.e.
On 04/05/2013 11:39 AM, Madara Uchiha wrote:
After I saw this question on Stack Overflow:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15688642/how-does-a-class-extension-or-interface-work,
I realized that the guy was right.
Is there an explanation for this, or is it just one of those things
that got
On Fri, 2013-04-05 at 08:01 +0200, Pierre Joye wrote:
stream_wrapper_unregister(http);
stream_wrapper_register(http, CurlStreamWrapper);
and then stream_wrapper_restore(http) to go back to the core
streams.
I wonder what one will do with open streams during the switches. That
can't go
Morning All,
Further to discussion in IRC this morning, I'd like to propose what
amounts to, I guess, a sub-project to properly document everything,
starting with everything declared ZEND_API in /Zend.
We put a lot of effort into the generation and maintenance of user land
documentation,
That's not the problem, the problem is when you extend a class with a
(defined) interface, you can't use the class before it is defined (the
class, not the interface). See the examples on the linked question.
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Joe Watkins krak...@php.net wrote:
On 04/05/2013 11:39
On 04/05/2013 12:01 PM, Madara Uchiha wrote:
That's not the problem, the problem is when you extend a class with a
(defined) interface, you can't use the class before it is defined (the
class, not the interface). See the examples on the linked question.
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Joe
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Madara Uchiha dor.tchi...@gmail.comwrote:
After I saw this question on Stack Overflow:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15688642/how-does-a-class-extension-or-interface-work
,
I realized that the guy was right.
Is there an explanation for this, or is it
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Joe Watkins krak...@php.net wrote:
Morning All,
Further to discussion in IRC this morning, I'd like to propose
what amounts to, I guess, a sub-project to properly document everything,
starting with everything declared ZEND_API in /Zend.
We
On Fri, 2013-04-05 at 14:09 +0200, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
I think that it everybody would support that idea, unfortunatelly not
many
people have the knowledge AND the time to write up that kind of
documentation.
That is the key part. There's no worse documentation than wrong
documentation.
Stas,
how does it look with this one? Please let me know whether it's ok for
5.4. I would go with master otherwise.
Thanks
Anatol
On Mon, 2013-04-01 at 19:13 +0200, Anatol Belski wrote:
Stas,
I've invested more time and here's almost cleaned up patch
On 04/05/2013 01:23 PM, Johannes Schlüter wrote:
On Fri, 2013-04-05 at 14:09 +0200, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
I think that it everybody would support that idea, unfortunatelly not
many
people have the knowledge AND the time to write up that kind of
documentation.
That is the key part. There's no
See the Structs Tutorial at msdn for a brief summary of structs in C# -
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa288471(v=vs.71).aspx
Looking at that code sample, yes - that is more or less exactly what I had
in mind.
I take back my last remark - I don't think the similarity in syntax is
If structs were even somehow interchangeable with real arrays, that might
be a really useful side gain:
$white = new Color(1, 1, 1);
$red = $white-r; // it's a struct
$green = $white['r']; // it's an array
$type = $white['__struct']; // = 'Color'
$array = ['r'=1, 'g'=1, 'b'=1,
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 5:48 AM, Joe Watkins krak...@php.net wrote:
On 04/05/2013 01:23 PM, Johannes Schlüter wrote:
On Fri, 2013-04-05 at 14:09 +0200, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
I think that it everybody would support that idea, unfortunatelly not
many
people have the knowledge AND the time to
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Rasmus Schultz ras...@mindplay.dk wrote:
See the Structs Tutorial at msdn for a brief summary of structs in C# -
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa288471(v=vs.71).aspx
Looking at that code sample, yes - that is more or less exactly what I had in
I imagine the implementation could be something along the lines of checking
for the '__struct' key when somebody attempts to use method-call syntax on
an array, invoking the appropriate method with $this referencing the array
you were using.
The rest of the time, a struct, for all intents
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Johannes Schlüter
johan...@schlueters.dewrote:
On Fri, 2013-04-05 at 08:01 +0200, Pierre Joye wrote:
stream_wrapper_unregister(http);
stream_wrapper_register(http, CurlStreamWrapper);
and then stream_wrapper_restore(http) to go back to the core
All is into the title.
A patch can be found here
https://github.com/jpauli/php-src/compare/remove_dl_php4_support
The idea is to get rid of those old stuff, like we did with session.compat
some time ago.
If you have ideas, improvements ...
Joe also talked about adding a header to the
On the other hand, I would just use an array. (without any magic
like methods on structs, yes you would have to write plain functions
and not use OOP like methods).
Yeah, that's what people are doing right now - the problem with that, is
you have the class-name referenced on every call, e.g.:
why not make struct almost like a class except
that $this is a copy (on write) - modifying and returning $this would
be a new instance of that struct/class. That would give you
public/private/static/variables/methods/interfaces/..., but it would
lead to another type.
As said, I don't know
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Julien Pauli jpa...@php.net wrote:
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Johannes Schlüter johan...@schlueters.de
wrote:
On Fri, 2013-04-05 at 08:01 +0200, Pierre Joye wrote:
stream_wrapper_unregister(http);
stream_wrapper_register(http, CurlStreamWrapper);
Hi!
I am also aware of some documentation included in the PHP manual
currently, which should also be completed, and included, with all of the
API in a searchable format, just like PHP is in userland.
That is a good idea. Do it :)
Ideally, it would be nice to document the API
On 04/05/2013 12:00 PM, Joe Watkins wrote:
Morning All,
Further to discussion in IRC this morning, I'd like to propose what
amounts to, I guess, a sub-project to properly document everything,
starting with everything declared ZEND_API in /Zend.
We put a lot of effort into the
On 06/04/2013, at 1:40 AM, Rasmus Schultz ras...@mindplay.dk wrote:
why not make struct almost like a class except
that $this is a copy (on write) - modifying and returning $this would
be a new instance of that struct/class. That would give you
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