[PHP-DEV] Why is ereg being deprecated?

2009-10-12 Thread Mark Krenz
I just found this out a couple days ago when I checked the ereg manual page for something and was shocked. I searched around a bit but couldn't find a straight answer on why this function is being removed? Did the deprecation notice just get made in 5.3 or has it been there longer than that?

Re: [PHP-DEV] Why is ereg being deprecated?

2009-10-12 Thread Mark Krenz
not expect it to come on PHP 5.4 (?) or PHP 6. Cheers, On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Mark Krenz m...@suso.org wrote:  I just found this out a couple days ago when I checked the ereg manual page for something and was shocked.  I searched around a bit but couldn't find a straight

Re: [PHP-DEV] Why is ereg being deprecated?

2009-10-12 Thread Mark Krenz
that, they are gone. It is not a question of simply leaving in what we have today. It technically won't work. -Rasmus Mark Krenz wrote: Ok, let me first say that I have no problem with deprecating it in favor of PCRE. Being a heavy Perl developer too, I'm more used to PCRE syntax

Re: [PHP-DEV] Why is ereg being deprecated?

2009-10-12 Thread Mark Krenz
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 04:27:02PM GMT, Pierre Joye [pierre@gmail.com] said the following: The ereg functions cannot work with Unicode and can't be fixed without rewriting them. Nobody likes to do it as pcre works just fine and has many active maintainers (inside and outside php).

Re: [PHP-DEV] Why is ereg being deprecated?

2009-10-12 Thread Mark Krenz
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 05:12:47PM GMT, Pierre Joye [pierre@gmail.com] said the following: Let me use another example to make you understand the situation. I bought a car, which is great, I can repair it myself, can drive Car analogies are seldomly an accurate portrayal to the

Re: [PHP-DEV] Why is ereg being deprecated?

2009-10-12 Thread Mark Krenz
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 05:12:43PM GMT, Christian Schneider [cschn...@cschneid.com] said the following: Mark Krenz wrote: But I'm willing to bet that the majority of people are using ereg, not PCRE. I've known about PCRE in PHP for a while now, but I continue to use ereg because I

Re: [PHP-DEV] Why is ereg being deprecated?

2009-10-12 Thread Mark Krenz
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 05:34:08PM GMT, Olivier B. [php-dev.l...@daevel.fr] said the following: And as far as I know, using ereg_* function is discouraged in the documentation since PHP 4, 10 years ago, no ? Discouraged, no. From looking at archive.org, it looks like there has been this

Re: [PHP-DEV] Why is ereg being deprecated?

2009-10-12 Thread Mark Krenz
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 05:08:33PM GMT, Lukas Kahwe Smith [...@pooteeweet.org] said the following: Wow, you sure do assume a lot of things about PHP and its development community. I have never seen your name on this list before and (now I am assuming) do not know the state of development

Re: [PHP-DEV] Why is ereg being deprecated?

2009-10-12 Thread Mark Krenz
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 05:55:25PM GMT, Carl P. Corliss [rabb...@gmail.com] said the following: Code Search of: eregi?(_replace)?\( lang:php shows ~123,000 results Code Search of: preg_(filter|grep|last_error|match_all|match|quote|replace_callback|replace|split)\( lang:php shows

Re: [PHP-DEV] Why is ereg being deprecated?

2009-10-12 Thread Mark Krenz
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 06:34:02PM GMT, Tomas Kuliavas [to...@users.sourceforge.net] said the following: preg_quote() and preg_last_error() are support functions. They are used together with other pcre functions. You double some search results. If you have to support something, it is not

Re: [PHP-DEV] Why is ereg being deprecated?

2009-10-12 Thread Mark Krenz
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 07:22:10PM GMT, Robert Cummings [rob...@interjinn.com] said the following: You are obviously right of course... the PHP world is NOT ready for the POSIX regex library to be dropped. That's why it's deprecated in PHP 5.3 and not removed. In a year or 3, when PHP 6 is

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Is it true that short_open_tag is deprecated in PHP 6?

2009-04-14 Thread Mark Krenz
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 03:11:10PM GMT, Arvids Godjuks [arvids.godj...@gmail.com] said the following: Yes, it's really irritating to write ?php echo every time! Until you get used to it. I started with PHP back in 98 and remember a bit of resistance in learning the ?php thing, but I knew it

Re: [PHP-DEV] Safe mode being removed in PHP6?

2007-11-05 Thread Mark Krenz
/Web_hosting_providers_with_poor_security), this will just make many more insecure as well. Even the ones that try at least somewhat to protect themselves. Mark On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 05:59:16AM GMT, Rasmus Lerdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] said the following: Mark Krenz wrote: ??? What do you mean? I

Re: [PHP-DEV] Safe mode being removed in PHP6?

2007-11-05 Thread Mark Krenz
On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 05:28:07PM GMT, Cristian Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] said the following: safe_mode does not really resist any analysis, whoever convinced you that it is a good thing does not have a clue. I've done the analysis, so you're saying that I don't have a clue. I don't

Re: [PHP-DEV] Safe mode being removed in PHP6?

2007-11-05 Thread Mark Krenz
On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 06:35:50PM GMT, Alexey Zakhlestin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said the following: That's how textdrive/joyent do this and they are more than happy with this approach. Oh really? Read the section on Joyent/Textdrive here:

Re: [PHP-DEV] Safe mode being removed in PHP6?

2007-11-05 Thread Mark Krenz
That's obvious and I do offer that. But what about users in a shared environment? There has to be a way to have cheaper accounts for people and the way to do that is to put a couple hundred of them on a machine. On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 06:42:35PM GMT, Michael McGlothlin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PHP-DEV] Safe mode being removed in PHP6?

2007-11-05 Thread Mark Krenz
On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 07:02:05PM GMT, Alexey Zakhlestin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said the following: Did you just ignore the part about fastcgi? No I didn't, I just feel that fastcgi/suexec/mod_suphp doesn't handle all of the ready to run programs out there completely. Besides that, the whole

Re: [PHP-DEV] Safe mode being removed in PHP6?

2007-11-05 Thread Mark Krenz
Yes, this is what I'm talking about. Now is the time to do this before some distribution of Linux or whatnot includes a version of PHP 6 that would not have this feature. I'm sorry I can't code very well in C. But I'd be willing to write documentation or a migration guide or something.

[PHP-DEV] Safe mode being removed in PHP6?

2007-08-26 Thread Mark Krenz
First of all I don't want this to sound like a personal attack, its professional. I just encountered something that really aggrevates me about the state of PHP and I want to be heard by the developers. I just read through this document, http://www.php.net/~derick/meeting-notes.html and

Re: [PHP-DEV] Safe mode being removed in PHP6?

2007-08-26 Thread Mark Krenz
On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 09:15:54PM GMT, Stanislav Malyshev [EMAIL PROTECTED] said the following: No more and no less than any other scripting language, I'd say. And the reason for that - it should be done on the OS level, not on the language level. OS possesses the capability and created

Re: [PHP-DEV] Comments on PHP security

2007-01-11 Thread Mark Krenz
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 04:17:31PM GMT, Alain Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] said the following: On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 05:04:30PM +0100, Stefan Esser wrote: PS: Stop the We are secure marketing and face reality More to the point: ''We might be secure because we are careful experienced

[PHP-DEV] Resource problem affecting Curl functions

2006-09-21 Thread Mark Krenz
I sent this to the php-general mailing list but nobody seemed to be able to help me there. I run a shared webserver with a few hundred vhost containers in Apache's config. Recently I got to a point where I added enough vhosts to cause a problem with curl functions in PHP. Basically, when

Re: [PHP-DEV] Resource problem affecting Curl functions

2006-09-21 Thread Mark Krenz
I really can't upgrade right now. Basically, I'd be risking breaking the machine because I'd have to upgrade to a newer support version of Fedora that might have some incompatibilities with some custom packages I've setup and end up having way too much downtime. Even if it was at 3 in the

Re: [PHP-DEV] Resource problem affecting Curl functions

2006-09-21 Thread Mark Krenz
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 03:28:28PM GMT, Mark Krenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] said the following: I really can't upgrade right now. Basically, I'd be risking breaking the machine because I'd have to upgrade to a newer support version of Fedora that might have some incompatibilities with some custom

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fwd: [PHP] proc_open and buffer limit?

2006-01-23 Thread Mark Krenz
://netevil.org/talks/PHP-Streams-Lucky-Dip.pdf has some tips and insider knowledge on using streams in PHP. On 1/23/06, Mark Krenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: stream_set_blocking($pipes[0], FALSE); stream_set_blocking($pipes[1], FALSE); $handle = fopen(/usr/share/dict/words, r

[PHP-DEV] Fwd: [PHP] proc_open and buffer limit?

2006-01-22 Thread Mark Krenz
into this STDIN data size limit when using proc_open? I've tried setting the limits for apache to unlimited in /etc/security/limits.conf just to see if its a system limit. - Forwarded message from Mark Krenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 00:25:33 + From: Mark Krenz [EMAIL

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fwd: [PHP] proc_open and buffer limit?

2006-01-22 Thread Mark Krenz
Well, the program that I'm really doing this with has a -o option to write its data out to a file and when I use that option I have the same problem with it only taking the first 64KB on stdin. On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 04:48:12AM GMT, Nicolas Bérard Nault [EMAIL PROTECTED] said the following:

[PHP-DEV] Should I report this bug/exploit?

2005-04-03 Thread Mark Krenz
Hi, I've been using PHP for a long time and have recently found a couple of major bugs that would allow pretty much any user on a shared web hosting server to read other user's files. The conditions for this exploit are quite common. Also, from what I can tell, this exploit would not be

Re: [PHP-DEV] Should I report this bug/exploit?

2005-04-03 Thread Mark Krenz
Is that a publically accessable mailing list or does it just go to a few people? On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 04:35:59AM GMT, Rasmus Lerdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] said the following: Such issues should be directed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark Krenz wrote: Hi, I've been using PHP for a long time