2008/3/26, Johannes Schlüter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > - Removed undocumented and incomplete support for strings in list()
> > operator. (Dmitry)
>
>
> What exactly does that change?
$a = "foo"; list($b) = $a; var_dump($b);
Before:
string(1) "f"
After (HEAD):
NULL
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2008/3/26, Johannes Schlüter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > - Added "jump label" operator (limited "goto"). (Dmitry, Sara)
>
>
> No objection, while it adds yet another keyword.
>
Patch:
- http://felipe.ath.cx/diff/goto.diff
Patch full (with re2c regenerated files):
- http://felipe.ath.cx/diff/goto-wi
On Mon, March 24, 2008 8:16 pm, Felipe Pena wrote:
> Do we keep the support added in http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=37632
> (that isn't supported in C++, for instance) or fix the
> zend_is_callable_check_func() ?
Personally, it makes sense to me for a PROTECTED function (et al) with
a common proto
On Wed, March 26, 2008 12:13 pm, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
>>> I'd wait for 6 with this. May break some scripts.
>>
>> I dont think it will break more a piece of code that doesnt really
>> work. ;)
>
> Af far as I know, breaks with arguments do work in PHP.
And I even used it once...
I could re-f
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 1:05 AM, Johannes Schlüter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 01:01 +0100, "Pierre Joye" wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:54 AM, Johannes Schlüter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > >
> >
> > > And compile time JIT is fine as long as we don't have
On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 01:01 +0100, "Pierre Joye" wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:54 AM, Johannes Schlüter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
>
> > And compile time JIT is fine as long as we don't have to care for
> > encoding, right? So this change won't be needed in 5.3.
>
> Except when one s
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:54 AM, Johannes Schlüter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> And compile time JIT is fine as long as we don't have to care for
> encoding, right? So this change won't be needed in 5.3.
Except when one sends a xxMB post that you are not expecting and will
not use. But that
On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 00:48 +0100, "Pierre Joye" wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:34 AM, Johannes Schlüter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 10:04 -0300, Felipe Pena wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I would like know which itens below needs be backported to 5_3:
> >
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:34 AM, Johannes Schlüter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 10:04 -0300, Felipe Pena wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I would like know which itens below needs be backported to 5_3:
> >
> > - Added runtime JIT auto-globals fetching and caching. (Dmitry,
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:38 AM, Stanislav Malyshev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually there is something hazardous to find, why this private list?
>
> To have actually some work done, as opposed to refuting never-ending
> stream of conspiracy theories.
Only you have seen our complains as "a
Hi,
On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 22:36 +0100, Marcus Boerger wrote:
> we all were asked to stop discussing syntax of namespaces as we were told
> that we would decide after the namespace functionality was fully implemented.
> Now I think that the functionallity is pretty much settled we should
> revisi
Hi!
No offense, but I do think that you may have won more contributors (I
wonder if it was even necessary given the amount of committers I saw)
if you were discussing the project on php-18n and called for help
earlier. I18n is a very important missing piece of PHP.
What part of "announced in J
On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 23:35 -0700, Paul Chandler wrote:
> Can't both (brackets and non) be supported?
NO! This just creates confusion.
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On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 10:04 -0300, Felipe Pena wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I would like know which itens below needs be backported to 5_3:
>
> - Added runtime JIT auto-globals fetching and caching. (Dmitry, Sara)
Not sure if this has benefits without the encoding stuff which is
planned for PHP 6.
> -
Hi,
On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 16:07 -0400, George Wang wrote:
> OK, let's back to the topic, is there any conclusion on this topic yet?
> I certainly would like not to miss the release of 5.3 and ready to help
> with any issue.
I think it makes sense, you, as the server's vendor, supports it and
wha
2008/3/26, Stanislav Malyshev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > - Changed "instanceof" and "catch" operators, is_a() and
> > is_subclass_of() functions to not call __autoload(). (Dmitry)
>
>
> This definitely should be - there's absolutely no reason any kind on
> instanceof-like operator would call autol
> -Original Message-
> From: Stanislav Malyshev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 26 March 2008 20:28
> To: Lukas Kahwe Smith
> Cc: Derick Rethans; Marcus Boerger; Hannes Magnusson; PHP Internals
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] short_open_tag
>
> Hi!
>
> > do note that we have increasingly l
Am 26.03.2008 um 20:48 schrieb Stanislav Malyshev:
Which # is it?
Re-opened. http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=44533
So it's just gives additional notice? That's a bit strange since
intval doesn't, and neither does (float). I see no reason for
floatval() to be different from others.
I agre
Hello Hannes,
Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 9:41:31 PM, you wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 9:39 PM, Hannes Magnusson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Stanislav Malyshev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> > I will repeat it as many times as necessary:
>> > 1. This
Hello Tex,
Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 10:22:33 PM, you wrote:
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Derick Rethans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 9:49 AM
> To: Tex Texin
> Cc: Marcus Boerger; Pierre Joye; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PHP Developers Mailing
> List
> Subjec
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Tex Texin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Tex,
> I understand the concern, but it is really a quite theoretical concern.
> The intl extension is a PHP wrapper around ICU API. The code layer is very
> thin.
This theoretical concern is actually how we work. It doe
-Original Message-
From: Derick Rethans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 9:49 AM
To: Tex Texin
Cc: Marcus Boerger; Pierre Joye; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PHP Developers Mailing List
Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [php-icu] Graphemes and unicode vs intl extension
On Sun, 2
On 26.03.2008, at 22:05, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
"never heard of" XPath.class.php and "also never heard of" some
code deep inside this Xayara CMS.
And used by people. Did I or anybody here on the list actually
contacted with these people or not does not matter - we can't
contact milli
Richard Krehbiel kirjoitti:
I've developed the patch listed in http://bugs.php.net/44393 over the last
few weeks, and I just thought I'd try to solicit some feedback. It's an
enhancement to the Windows ISAPI module which allows Keep-Alive connections
and chunked content-encoding. I'd sure love
Hi!
if (true) {
break $foo;
}
As I understand, this code works now.
"never heard of" XPath.class.php and "also never heard of" some code
deep inside this Xayara CMS.
And used by people. Did I or anybody here on the list actually contacted
with these people or n
Hi!
I meant to duplicate the code from ext/date (where it belongs) in
pecl/intl. Please notice the "pecl/intl" not php-src/ext. The goal is
to provide the DateFormatter feature to php 5.2 users.
Great, right now 5.2 users can use intl extension from pecl, including
DateFormatter.
As Derick
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Stanislav Malyshev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi!
>
>
> > This feature can then be optional in ext/date. That should not be an
> > issue for those not willing to use a reliable date formatting system
> > as they are certainly not interested in intl either.
>
>
Hi,
Hannes Magnusson wrote:
According to Google Code Search (
http://www.google.com/codesearch?q=lang%3Aphp+break\s%2B\%24&hl=en&btnG=Search+Code
) there are only two distinct pieces of code out there using dynamic break:
"never heard of" XPath.class.php and "also never heard of" some code
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 9:39 PM, Hannes Magnusson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Stanislav Malyshev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I will repeat it as many times as necessary:
> > 1. This situation can happen only if you have written very buggy
> > template code
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Stanislav Malyshev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I will repeat it as many times as necessary:
> 1. This situation can happen only if you have written very buggy
> template code - there exists no such code right now and one has to be
> rather sloppy to create such
Hi!
This feature can then be optional in ext/date. That should not be an
issue for those not willing to use a reliable date formatting system
as they are certainly not interested in intl either.
I think making it optional in ext/date would be harder. On top of that,
optional functions in exis
Hi!
do note that we have increasingly large numbers of way to jump out of
the scope (exceptions, recoverable errors). this obviously makes these
kinds of cleanups potentially easier to forget.
You'd need to catch and process exceptions anyway, and recoverable
errors, as far as I understand,
You do know that having short tags enabled will result in a parse
error in the following situation, right?:
Yes, I do know. In fact, I mentioned this knowledge in virtually every
email on the subject. Your point being?
idea ever - but I still think it'll just create more wtf then
necessary.
On 26.03.2008, at 20:55, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
Hi!
I don't think I've ever said I don't like short tags. It's not the
issue here. The issue is that allowing to change it during runtime
adds more WTF to PHP. WTF factors are bad.
2. For any code messing with this value - and this code
Hi,
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Stanislav Malyshev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi!
>
>
> > As intl will requires it, why is it unacceptable?
>
> intl is specialized extension for people dealing with global
> environments. It will be enabled only by people that really need it.
> ext/date
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Stanislav Malyshev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi!
>
>
> > I don't think I've ever said I don't like short tags. It's not the issue
> > here. The issue is that allowing to change it during runtime adds more
> > WTF to PHP. WTF factors are bad.
>
> OK, there wer
Hi!
According to this ticket, this has been assigned to johannes, should I
follow up with this ticket to get it going?
Johannes is the RM for 5.3, so he decides if/when it gets in. :)
Our LSAPI library code has been license under BSD license, and there are
If extension and library are BSD,
OK, let's back to the topic, is there any conclusion on this topic yet?
I certainly would like not to miss the release of 5.3 and ready to help
with any issue.
As to user request, here is one :-)
http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=42987
According to this ticket, this has been assigned to johannes
It just doesn't seem right to be able to call a private or protected
method of another instance. Sort of isn't private any more.
Why not? Private/protected is meant to separate APIs, it's not a
security check on objects. Private means this API belongs to this class
only, protected means this A
This still will works.
Surely it shouldn't work at all unless the $foo === $this?
Why not? If the context is right, why shouldn't it be able to call this
content's protected functions?
As I understand, protected funciton means no code outside the class can
call it, since it's not a part of t
Hi!
As intl will requires it, why is it unacceptable?
intl is specialized extension for people dealing with global
environments. It will be enabled only by people that really need it.
ext/date is much more general-purpose function, used by thousands of
applications that don't care at all ab
Marcus Boerger wrote:
> Hello Gregory,
>
> + for (p = ptr; isalnum((int)*p) || *p == '+' || *p == '-' ||
> *p == '.'; p++);
> + /* p - ptr > 1 allows us to skip things like "C:\whatever" */
> + if ((*p == ':') && (p - ptr > 1) && (path_len - (p - path) >
Hi!
I don't think I've ever said I don't like short tags. It's not the issue
here. The issue is that allowing to change it during runtime adds more
WTF to PHP. WTF factors are bad.
OK, there were people saying short tags are mortal sin, devil's device
to lure pure souls into the hell and wha
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Stanislav Malyshev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am not so sure. I see (in the feb-04 sources) just collator,
> > formatter, locale, msgformat and normalizer - and dateformatter that
> > should be integrated into the Date extension to avoid issues and
> > conf
Which # is it?
Re-opened. http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=44533
So it's just gives additional notice? That's a bit strange since intval
doesn't, and neither does (float). I see no reason for floatval() to be
different from others.
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I am not so sure. I see (in the feb-04 sources) just collator,
formatter, locale, msgformat and normalizer - and dateformatter that
should be integrated into the Date extension to avoid issues and
confusion.
I'm all for integrating it in PHP 6, however I do not see how it is
possible to do it
Marcus Boerger wrote:
> language out there that is in use and has anything like that. And even more
> scary to me, you did not solve anything by this because people still could
> write code prior to the namespace keyword. So no matter what we are screwed
?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/workspace/php5$ cat
I've developed the patch listed in http://bugs.php.net/44393 over the last
few weeks, and I just thought I'd try to solicit some feedback. It's an
enhancement to the Windows ISAPI module which allows Keep-Alive connections
and chunked content-encoding. I'd sure love to get this incorporated into
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Stanislav Malyshev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I'd wait for 6 with this. May break some scripts.
> >
> > I dont think it will break more a piece of code that doesnt really work. ;)
>
> Af far as I know, breaks with arguments do work in PHP.
http://www.php.ne
Hello Alexey,
Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 6:05:12 PM, you wrote:
> On 3/26/08, Richard Quadling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> It just doesn't seem right to be able to call a private or protected
>> method of another instance. Sort of isn't private any more.
>> And as for being able to call a
I'd wait for 6 with this. May break some scripts.
I dont think it will break more a piece of code that doesnt really work. ;)
Af far as I know, breaks with arguments do work in PHP.
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On 3/26/08, Richard Quadling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It just doesn't seem right to be able to call a private or protected
> method of another instance. Sort of isn't private any more.
> And as for being able to call a protected method of a completely
> different class, just because it sh
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Stanislav Malyshev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi!
>
>
> > - Added runtime JIT auto-globals fetching and caching. (Dmitry, Sara)
>
> Does this change any semantics, etc? Any reason why it wasn't merged in
> the first place?
It was initially done for the input e
On 26/03/2008, Richard Quadling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 25/03/2008, Felipe Pena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Em Ter, 2008-03-25 às 12:35 +0100, Lars Strojny escreveu:
> >
> > > Would that mean that the following code does not work anymore?
> > >
> > > > > class Foo
> > > {
>
2008/3/26, Stanislav Malyshev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > - Removed support for "continue" and "break" operators with non-constant
> > operands. (Dmitry)
>
>
> I'd wait for 6 with this. May break some scripts.
I dont think it will break more a piece of code that doesnt really work. ;)
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On 3/26/08, Richard Quadling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Shouldn't the instance be the limiting factor?
it shouldn't
public/protected/private are related to classes, not to objects.
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On Sun, 23 Mar 2008, Lester Caine wrote:
> Derick Rethans wrote:
> > On Fri, 21 Mar 2008, Pierre Joye wrote:
> >
> > > I rather prefer to have this class (and related) within the ext/date
> > > extensions. It is the only way to have a consistent and working
> > > date/time API in php. Date/time f
On Sun, 23 Mar 2008, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
> > Noone is arguing about the usefulness of the extension.
> > We are arguing about how the maintainers of the extension are about to
> > abandon it once it reaches -stable and the fact it doesn't even try to
>
> Hannes, wtf you are talking about? N
On Sun, 23 Mar 2008, Steph Fox wrote:
> > Few people want this extension to be moved to core, which means: every
> > decision about this extension is "deciding anything about PHP".
>
> Those 'few people' were actually in the majority when it was put to the vote.
> Yes development could and should
On Sun, 23 Mar 2008, Tex Texin wrote:
> Pierre, Marcus, et al.
>
> 1) The project started a year or so ago. A few of us from different
> companies had a strong need to see that PHP had international
> collation, formats, normalization, grapheme support, and other
> functions in a time frame ne
On Fri, 21 Mar 2008, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
> > But maybe the change is that now it is considered evil by an even larger
> > amount of people.
>
> So far I saw four. I do not double I can find 5 people that like templates
> with short tags.
I don't think I've ever said I don't like short tags
On 25/03/2008, Felipe Pena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Em Ter, 2008-03-25 às 12:35 +0100, Lars Strojny escreveu:
>
> > Would that mean that the following code does not work anymore?
> >
> > > class Foo
> > {
> > protected function method()
> > {
> > }
> >
> > publ
Hi!
- Added runtime JIT auto-globals fetching and caching. (Dmitry, Sara)
Does this change any semantics, etc? Any reason why it wasn't merged in
the first place?
- Added "jump label" operator (limited "goto"). (Dmitry, Sara)
No strong opinion here, I didn't need it anyway :)
- Removed
expand_filepath()'s declaration:
char *expand_filepath(const char *filepath, char *real_path TSRMLS_DC)
It can accept NULL as real_path param. and will dynamically create an expanded
pathname string to return to caller.
It can also accept a MAXPATHLEN-sized array as real_path and is suppose
All.
--Jani
On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 10:04 -0300, Felipe Pena wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I would like know which itens below needs be backported to 5_3:
>
> - Added runtime JIT auto-globals fetching and caching. (Dmitry, Sara)
> - Added "jump label" operator (limited "goto"). (Dmitry, Sara)
> - Removed
Hello Osman,
thanks for finding this bug. I fixed the embed sapi however for all
active branches so that the first version with the fix is 5.2.6. The reason
to not apply your patch is that we expect sapi_startup() to be able to set
ini_entries to NULL and in fact this is supposed to not be used
Hello,
I would like know which itens below needs be backported to 5_3:
- Added runtime JIT auto-globals fetching and caching. (Dmitry, Sara)
- Added "jump label" operator (limited "goto"). (Dmitry, Sara)
- Removed support for "continue" and "break" operators with non-constant
operands. (Dmitry)
Em Qua, 2008-03-26 às 12:55 +0100, Pierre Joye escreveu:
> I don't see why it has been bogufied. It should be either fixed (as
> you described) or the documentation has to be updated (move the bug to
> the doc category).
>
> Which # is it?
Re-opened. http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=44533
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On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Christian Schneider
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Pierre Joye wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Christian Schneider
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> playing around with PHP 6 I noticed the following BC issue:
> >> floatval("4.2foo") gives an E_NOT
Hello Gregory,
+ for (p = ptr; isalnum((int)*p) || *p == '+' || *p == '-' || *p
== '.'; p++);
+ /* p - ptr > 1 allows us to skip things like "C:\whatever" */
+ if ((*p == ':') && (p - ptr > 1) && (path_len - (p - path) > 2)
&& (p[1] == '/') && (p[2] == '
Pierre Joye wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Christian Schneider
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> playing around with PHP 6 I noticed the following BC issue:
>> floatval("4.2foo") gives an E_NOTICE "A non well formed numeric value
>> encountered". The type casting (float)"4.2foo" still wo
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Cristian Rodriguez
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008/3/19, Scott MacVicar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>
> > Another alternative would be to simply bundle CMake with PHP,
>
> Nope, Cmake is available in almost all distributions and in the case
> some of them dont have
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 2:45 AM, Rasmus Lerdorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gwynne Raskind wrote:
> > My two US cents :).
> >
> > On Mar 19, 2008, at 9:17 PM, Jani Taskinen wrote:
> >>> Here is a quick run down of some of the features of CMake and tools
> >>> associated with it:
> >>> • A si
Hello Andi,
Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 7:12:18 AM, you wrote:
> In general I'd prefer one namespace per-file, at least as a best
> practice and common advertised use. For this case it doesn't really
> matter too much whether it's with or without brackets. My preference is
> without because then y
On 26.03.2008 03:55, Christian Schneider wrote:
> Playing around with PHP 6 I noticed that some functions start to
> complain about conversion of null values to strings:
>
> php -d error_reporting=65535 -r 'var_dump(urldecode(null));'
>
> Warning: urldecode() expects parameter 1 to be strictly a
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