on just how some aspects of their use can be
expanded to cover internationalization and the example in the RFC has no
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I'd also like to propose to use null:
[null, null, $username] = getUserData();
foreach ($source as $key => null) {}
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s Python but
trying to change things piecemeal rather than just going all in and
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On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 11:11 AM Lester Caine <mailto:les...@lsces.uk>> wrote:
On 08/06/2020 09:44, Marco Pivetta wrote:
> I was mostly conflicted around the "allow grouped attributes"
bit, but
> Jam
umentation provided by docblocks is to be replaced
there has to be a compelling reason to do so and while this latest drive
for yet another documentation method seems to be now a fate acompli
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all of
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setups often without adequate
care. Which is why ANY unnecessary changes that need to be made as a
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cut across the ways frameworks already handle that
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? It just has the advantage that it can link deeper into the
core engine than ones which simply sit on top? In exactly the same way
C++ sits on top of C ?
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that
sensitive information is not displayed in the stack. Most of the time it
IS just the warnings one gets and clients can report them and see they
are cleared ... so some sort of middle ground between off and on would
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achieve that seems somewhat insane?
https://uk.godaddy.com/help/can-i-use-open-basedir-on-my-server-running-parallels-plesk-panel-1619
is an example of one hosting providers use of it and something which
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It's absolutely fine to dislike short tags. It's absolutely fine to
believe it shouldn't have been introduced. But the gap between that, and
thinking it's fine to remove it - is very, very big.
And how long after it's removed will
or as floating point numbers ... leap seconds just get hidden
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expands that in the template ...
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keep throwing 'count' warnings which currently have been fixed
by simply removing the 'count' and leaving the value blank. That is
until someone who knows how to fix it provides a fix. It's BUILDING
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Surely the time for vocal opposition was _before_ voting closed?
And actually having a vote would help ...
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long established coding style issue not simply automatic edits to code
that IS working perfectly already. It does not 'fixing' simply because
some people don't like it ...
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years ... it's still running the same
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to 'continually update'
the driver, only the wrappers around the basic driver. Which do not
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or right justified number but the logic now requires an 'int' to keep it
quiet is pushing towards needing these separate versions of essentially
the same variable :( Making the associative array view of the data
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al where numeric data is right justified in a CHAR field
is equally valid.
Handling these has always required care and it would be preferable that
both returned the same result without having to trim and perhaps
creating problems when the padded version needs to be returned
.
It is the firebird client which is actually holding the connection on
which ibase_wait_event is listening. Using it depends very much on how
PHP handles asynchronous events while I simply want to know that the
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firebird user groups don't engage
directly with the 'English' groups.
So it looks like I'm going to be stuck on PHP7.3 from now on ...
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then many Firebird user groups do not have English as a first language
and just get on with things locally.
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automatically :( And even more difficult when they stick with an older
version when you need the updated one :(
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s it's all that is needed? It's
just not politically correct today?
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newcomers call it a bug it's an original
design feature.
I'll add BOOLEAN to https://phpsurgery.org/tests/ibtest.php tomorrow,
but there are bugs in your link that don't show in the link I have been
using :( But some of them are not bugs ...
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does not always work reliably ... one has to provide a wrapped package
with all the edge cases addressed. But all my use in production is using
ADOdb to wrap the database SQL problems ...
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the extension doing it's job
for the vast majority of users and even the suggestion that it is
unusable due to Bug 72175 does not stand up to scrutiny and can now be
fixed in 7.3 and 7.2 anyway ...
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Turned out to be part of the upgrade to get these sites working on
PHP7.2/FB3 was missed so suggestions that something I've been using for
20 years does not work does not go down well!
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complaining about it is as with many other things in PHP
simply to explain they are doing it wrong anyway.
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at I am not the only person using PHP
with Firebird and reliant on it continuing to be available!
Now to get back to working out why Nikita's patch does not work in
7.2.16 ...
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manages extra transactions on the same link. Working of a singleton link
just works and so in that case the bug is irrelevant rather than a show
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ll waiting on mercurial syncing with git but hopefully in the
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in the last year!
So all we are asking for is HELP with the code changes that result from
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something that will be variable.
But isn't all this just mainly another class object. As has been
suggested for an improved array object but never developed further?
Create an extension to support it first, although the validation element
is still needed for any variable across the board ...
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data which have to be stripped before you can use it following a paste
... adding hard page ends needs to be properly thought about!
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is enabled...
It's nice to be able to ignore MySQL and Postgres when one is not using
them in production, so the ability simply to load those extensions one
actually uses is a nice to have ...
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managing selection of what extensions ARE loaded is a minefield in it's
own right ... and just where they are loaded by default.
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to a stable windows base is just more
blockers to bringing the over 70% of sites that are still on PHP5
forward to PHP7. Especially if other moves make Windows a second class
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ned in new
projects but is at adds with much legacy code? Bringing in blocks of
'voters' who have a different development style before deciding if that
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how the chunks are defined. mb characters or bytes for example?
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validation client specific removes the need to mess up the server by
trying to run multiple locales with the possible conflicts between that,
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is
actually usable!
PLEASE can we get back to making variables manage their own VALIDITY
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to be
'initialized' if at all for this instance of the object. The constructor
simply creates those elements that need to exit and does nothing with
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that is being passed and it is certainly not 'bad coding' to be working
with uninitialized data - it's handling just what needs to be
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for PHP7.3 gives me any reason to need to worry
about using it at all ... typehints are certainly an extra negative to
changing ... 7.0.x is stable on my LTS platform, so I'll stay on that ...
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in several languages to make a
set of tools work.
And I'm waiting for the demand for Oracle's java subscription to allow
me to continue to use Eclipse as the main IDE ...
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grade tools.
I'm not sure just what accounts I have on PHP these days. I used to have
logins but I forget nowadays what for. I would just like to get back to
producing content rather than firefighting changes every day ...
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that I use in the ADOdb
Firebird driver. THAT is something I do spend time keeping tidy, and
fixes some of the niggles raw access encounters, but I will have a look
at the 2017 bugs that I'd not been aware of ... the other bugs are
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is the exotic nature of PHP is just as difficult as the tools it needs
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notification of the change, so when did it happen and why. More to the
point, why has the documentation not been amended to match the new
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particular problem is simply use unicode IN
core and ditch mbstring. That is not going to happen before I pass on,
but hopefully some later version of PHP will not have to worry at all
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users. backtick probably comes into the style class and with people
Python for on machine script handling nowadays then removing access to
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is isolated from other paths while a
core standard method of validation would simplify things in a way
'strong typing' does not!
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is restrained to an
'int' thing is of little practical use to many users ... they still need
the validation library whether they understand 'strict typing' or not.
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en we PAY to
renew! Another job to waste time on this week :( So NO I DON'T NEED
STRICT TYING ... THE DATABASE INTERFACE TAKES CARE OF LIMITS AND VALUES
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> wrote in message news:28ba9e6a-a3f2-2547-d294-f3a1710d5...@rhsoft.net...
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>> Am 30.12.2017 um 11:37 schrieb Lester Caine:
>>> On 30/12/17 09:16, Tony Marston wrote:
>>>>>> You are missing
f
a move that way and get on with a version of PHP that is only typed.
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f the
'extras' added to individual drivers and it is about time the ground
rules were clearly defined and enforced. That nobody has stepped up to
finish the parts of PDO that were put on the back burner when it was
prematurely pushed into the core build is perhaps a further indication
that it w
nd I have to do that for other functions in other databases
currently anyway. So one does not have to overload PDO with more checks
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> On 27/09/2017 11:00, Lester Caine wrote:
>> The bigger question is - Should database specific extensions to PDO be
>> allowed at all? The WHOLE base of PDO was that it would allow easy data
>> management between DIFFERENT d
is should be implemented in a
way that mirrors blobs generically otherwise the generic database driver
should be used since a switch to another PDO driver will fail. This
should apply to any targeted extension to PDO, so anything that breaks
the generic base data needs tidy
ultibyte constant names with the
current limited sub-set of case conversion is just not sensible, but in
the absence of a clean unicode case folding/conversion which is the
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case-insensitivity is allowed? Do we NEED case-insensitivity if that is
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ower cased at times and this
DOES cause a problem if the metadata defines upper case and I suspect
that is something that will never be changed now, but the actual rules
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On 17/09/17 11:53, Rowan Collins wrote:
> On 17 September 2017 09:54:54 BST, Lester Caine <les...@lsces.co.uk> wrote:
>> Just what character set is PHP7
>> designed
>> to work with.
>
> Focusing on the answerable part of this, PHP actually allows a v
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file name when it was entered lower case. Since
all our web servers are 'non-windows', hitting the idiosyncrasies of
these inappropriate case conversions just adds to the fun. That may not
the happening these days, but cause major problems at one time!
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On 14/09/17 14:10, Michael Morris wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Lester Caine <les...@lsces.co.uk> wrote:
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>> UTF8 introduces a level of complexity and can be used used in many
>> places in PHP, but it does seem that there is no drive these days to
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s seem that there is no drive these days to
make the core a clean UTF8 environment. This should perhaps be addressed
again for PHP8? But the additional problems that case-insensitive then
introduces may mean that all case-insensitivity has to be removed at
that point?
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g an RTTY as the keyboard and printer.
No one had invented the shift key and the 5 bit character set was easy
to work with.
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variable
by variable once one has established that there IS a valid set of
variables to work with.
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eate additional UUID like variables and validate that
the supplied data to populate hem is correct.
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