Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Migrating to GitHub issues

2021-11-15 Thread Levi Morrison via internals
> if hosting it ourself is a priority, i suggest looking into GitLab’s > Community Edition, which is entirely open source, > and the GNOME project moved from Bugzilla to GitLab CE in 2018, > here's how that worked out, 2 years later: > https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2020/09/08/gnome-follow-up/ >

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Migrating to GitHub issues

2021-11-15 Thread Dan Ackroyd
On Mon, 15 Nov 2021 at 09:47, Derick Rethans wrote: Derick wrote: > I think it is a mistake to decide on a whim to move over to GitHub > issues without having evaluated anything else. Maybe avoid being insulting about other people's decision making process? I'm pretty sure that Nikita doesn't

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Migrating to GitHub issues

2021-11-15 Thread Dan Ackroyd
On Mon, 15 Nov 2021 at 09:56, Hans Henrik Bergan wrote: > > if hosting it ourself is a priority, No, quite the opposite. The PHP project is pretty terrible at running infrastructure, as infrastructure needs to have people available to work on it immediately when there are issues, which is not a

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Migrating to GitHub issues

2021-11-15 Thread Marco Pivetta
Chiming in, since it seems like people are suggesting Gitlab and further "exotic" tools. On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 6:06 PM Rowan Tommins wrote: > On 15/11/2021 14:49, Deleu wrote: > > I had already decided to spend time and effort learning about the > > project and then having to learn about

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Migrating to GitHub issues

2021-11-15 Thread Rowan Tommins
On 15/11/2021 14:49, Deleu wrote: I had already decided to spend time and effort learning about the project and then having to learn about their ticketing system and git repository is just unnecessary extra work. In any project above a handful of developers, learning the conventions and

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Migrating to GitHub issues

2021-11-15 Thread Côme Chilliet
Le lundi 15 novembre 2021, 15:49:04 CET Deleu a écrit : > Gitlab is not where the wide PHP Community is located. Composer, > widely-used and adopted packages, frameworks, PSRs, PHP itself and PHP Docs > are all hosted on GitHub. Choosing something else increases the barrier for > newcomers to

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Migrating to GitHub issues

2021-11-15 Thread James Gilliland
On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 8:49 AM Deleu wrote: > > > > > > I would like to suggest gitlab.com, which does provide hosting for free > > for opensource projects: https://about.gitlab.com/solutions/open-source/ > > Anyone with a github account can use it to log in. > > It should be easy to migrate to

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Migrating to GitHub issues

2021-11-15 Thread Deleu
> > > I would like to suggest gitlab.com, which does provide hosting for free > for opensource projects: https://about.gitlab.com/solutions/open-source/ > Anyone with a github account can use it to log in. > It should be easy to migrate to any other gitlab instance if needed. There > are even

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Migrating to GitHub issues

2021-11-15 Thread Côme Chilliet
I strongly agree with Derick on this matter. Le lundi 15 novembre 2021, 12:06:54 CET Nikita Popov a écrit : > For better or worse, GitHub is where nearly all open-source projects are > hosted, which means that pretty much anyone involved in open-source has an > account there and is familiar with

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Migrating to GitHub issues

2021-11-15 Thread Nikita Popov
On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 10:47 AM Derick Rethans wrote: > Dear Internals, > > I think it is a mistake to decide on a whim to move over to GitHub > issues without having evaluated anything else. > > GitHub is a proprietary platform, where unlike with the code > repositories, the interactions and

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Migrating to GitHub issues

2021-11-15 Thread Andreas Leathley
On 15.11.21 10:47, Derick Rethans wrote: GitHub is a proprietary platform, where unlike with the code repositories, the interactions and issues are not easy to migrate out of again. It is also now owned by MSFT, and although they are making friendly noises towards Open Source, I remain largely

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Migrating to GitHub issues

2021-11-15 Thread Deleu
On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 10:47 AM Derick Rethans wrote: > > and I worry that too > few people are going to be interested in gardening the issues on GH. > > cheers, > Derick > > > On Tue, 2 Nov 2021, Nikita Popov wrote: > > > Hi internals, > > > > The migration from bugs.php.net to GitHub issues

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Migrating to GitHub issues

2021-11-15 Thread Hans Henrik Bergan
if hosting it ourself is a priority, i suggest looking into GitLab’s Community Edition, which is entirely open source, and the GNOME project moved from Bugzilla to GitLab CE in 2018, here's how that worked out, 2 years later: https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2020/09/08/gnome-follow-up/ (and the TL;DR

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Migrating to GitHub issues

2021-11-15 Thread Marco Pivetta
Hey Derick On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 10:47 AM Derick Rethans wrote: > Dear Internals, > > I think it is a mistake to decide on a whim to move over to GitHub > issues without having evaluated anything else. > > GitHub is a proprietary platform, where unlike with the code > repositories, the

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Migrating to GitHub issues

2021-11-15 Thread Derick Rethans
Dear Internals, I think it is a mistake to decide on a whim to move over to GitHub issues without having evaluated anything else. GitHub is a proprietary platform, where unlike with the code repositories, the interactions and issues are not easy to migrate out of again. It is also now owned

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Migrating to GitHub issues

2021-11-11 Thread Nikita Popov
On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 7:23 PM Niklas Keller wrote: > Hey Nikita, > > I'd like to propose using HackerOne instead of bugs.php.net for security > issues: https://www.hackerone.com/company/open-source-community > > Best, > Niklas > Unfortunately I have no familiarity with HackerOne and as such

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Migrating to GitHub issues

2021-11-11 Thread Nikita Popov
On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 5:51 PM Nikita Popov wrote: > On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 5:58 PM Dan Ackroyd wrote: > >> On Tue, 2 Nov 2021 at 14:19, Nikita Popov wrote: >> > >> > I'd like to formally propose to use GitHub for PHP implementation >> issues as >> > well:

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Migrating to GitHub issues

2021-11-10 Thread Niklas Keller
Hey Nikita, I'd like to propose using HackerOne instead of bugs.php.net for security issues: https://www.hackerone.com/company/open-source-community Best, Niklas Am Di., 2. Nov. 2021 um 15:19 Uhr schrieb Nikita Popov : > Hi internals, > > The migration from bugs.php.net to GitHub issues has

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Migrating to GitHub issues

2021-11-10 Thread Nikita Popov
On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 5:58 PM Dan Ackroyd wrote: > On Tue, 2 Nov 2021 at 14:19, Nikita Popov wrote: > > > > I'd like to formally propose to use GitHub for PHP implementation issues > as > > well: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/github_issues > > In general, yes please. The only bit I'll chime in on

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Migrating to GitHub issues

2021-11-04 Thread Dan Ackroyd
On Tue, 2 Nov 2021 at 14:19, Nikita Popov wrote: > > I'd like to formally propose to use GitHub for PHP implementation issues as > well: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/github_issues In general, yes please. The only bit I'll chime in on is: > bugs.php.net will remain active for the following purposes:

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Migrating to GitHub issues

2021-11-03 Thread Sara Golemon
On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 9:19 AM Nikita Popov wrote: > The migration from bugs.php.net to GitHub issues has already been > discussed > in https://externals.io/message/114300 and has already happened for > documentation issues. > > I'd like to formally propose to use GitHub for PHP implementation