Re: GUPI/GUSLs and DNS

2003-01-23 Thread Erik Nordmark
I do not believe it is either necessary or appropriate to have DNS provide only addresses that are reachable by the party making the query. The question in my mind is whether it is appropriate to put addresses that are by design not globally reachable in the DNS. Nor should DNS be used as a

Re: unique enough [RE: globally unique site local addresses]

2003-01-23 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Michel Py wrote: Erik Nordmark wrote: On the enterprise side I can see that folks have been bitting or are concerned about renumbering costs if they were to use PA addresses. But I don't have any data on how many consider having one PA prefix per ISP good enough since it allows

Re: comments on draft-hinden-ipv6-global-site-local-00

2003-01-23 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Pekka Savola wrote: Hello, A few quick comments on the draft. Sorry for lack of content. Substantial: This document proposes an approach to allocating IPv6 Site-Local address so they are globally unique and routable only inside of a site. == it would be good to go a bit

Re: unique enough [RE: globally unique site local addresses]

2003-01-23 Thread Tim Chown
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 10:04:13AM +0100, Brian E Carpenter wrote: Er, multiple addresses are part of the IPv6 architecture. And SCTP deals with them, even if TCP doesn't. It may be something new and different, but there's no way you can declare it a no-go. And we also have many different

Re: Proposal for site-local clean-up

2003-01-23 Thread Erik Nordmark
This does not answer the question of why you assume that ISPs will change their business models under v6. I said: |The ISPs business model is about service differentiation. And I agree that they most likely will continue with service differentiation. But I think they can change the

Re: comments on draft-hinden-ipv6-global-site-local-00

2003-01-23 Thread Pekka Savola
On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Brian E Carpenter wrote: Substantial: This document proposes an approach to allocating IPv6 Site-Local address so they are globally unique and routable only inside of a site. == it would be good to go a bit more in depth to how this is actually a

Re: GUPI/GUSLs and DNS

2003-01-23 Thread Keith Moore
On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 09:10:08 +0100 (CET) Erik Nordmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not believe it is either necessary or appropriate to have DNS provide only addresses that are reachable by the party making the query. The question in my mind is whether it is appropriate to put

Re: comments on draft-hinden-ipv6-global-site-local-00

2003-01-23 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Pekka Savola wrote: On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Brian E Carpenter wrote: Substantial: This document proposes an approach to allocating IPv6 Site-Local address so they are globally unique and routable only inside of a site. == it would be good to go a bit more in depth to

Re: please reply I am posting 3rd time : Web Server addresses : Unicast, Multicast , Anycast

2003-01-23 Thread Brian Haberman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes that is what the spec says, but reality is always somewhat different. There is no technical reason that an anycast address could not be assigned to any group of hosts. The issue that must be dealt with there are technical reasons why anycast addresses can only be

Re: Proposal for site-local clean-up

2003-01-23 Thread Dan Lanciani
Erik Nordmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | This does not answer the question of why you assume that ISPs will change | their business models under v6. | |I said: | |The ISPs business model is about service differentiation. | |And I agree that they most likely will continue with service

Re: comments on draft-hinden-ipv6-global-site-local-00

2003-01-23 Thread Fred L. Templin
Brian, Brian E Carpenter wrote: Pekka Savola wrote: On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Brian E Carpenter wrote: Substantial: This document proposes an approach to allocating IPv6 Site-Local address so they are globally unique and routable only inside of a site. == it would be good to go a bit more

RE: unique enough [RE: globally unique site local addresses]

2003-01-23 Thread Michel Py
Brian, Erik Nordmark wrote: On the enterprise side I can see that folks have been bitting or are concerned about renumbering costs if they were to use PA addresses. But I don't have any data on how many consider having one PA prefix per ISP good enough since it allows some graceful cutover

Re: GUPI/GUSLs and DNS

2003-01-23 Thread Erik Nordmark
But when server.example.com has that is just GUPI then mail delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] will fail when the GUPI is not reachable, right? Yes it will. But not because you listed a GUPI in the DNS, but because you failed to provide and advertise a server that was reachable by

Re: GUPI/GUSLs and DNS

2003-01-23 Thread Keith Moore
On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 20:09:41 +0100 (CET) Erik Nordmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But when server.example.com has that is just GUPI then mail delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] will fail when the GUPI is not reachable, right? Yes it will. But not because you listed a GUPI in the DNS,