Re: [IPsec] Clarifications and Implementation Guidelines for using TCP Encapsulation in IKEv2 draft

2020-05-10 Thread Tero Kivinen
Benjamin Kaduk writes: > Sorry! I think that the current charter allows us to do an 8229bis > without additional rechartering. Good. I myself think it is better to do bis documents than just clarification guidelines as splitting things to multiple documents do make things harder to implement.

Re: [IPsec] Clarifications and Implementation Guidelines for using TCP Encapsulation in IKEv2 draft

2020-05-08 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
On Mon, May 04, 2020 at 09:07:08AM +0300, Valery Smyslov wrote: > Hi Ben, > > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 10:54:26PM +0300, Yoav Nir wrote: > > > [With chair hat on] > > > > > > Yes, the charter says that we are to make a guidance document. If the > > working group feels that it’s better to put the

Re: [IPsec] Clarifications and Implementation Guidelines for using TCP Encapsulation in IKEv2 draft

2020-05-04 Thread Valery Smyslov
Hi Ben, > On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 10:54:26PM +0300, Yoav Nir wrote: > > [With chair hat on] > > > > Yes, the charter says that we are to make a guidance document. If the > working group feels that it’s better to put the specification and guidance in > a > single document, we can work on that and

Re: [IPsec] Clarifications and Implementation Guidelines for using TCP Encapsulation in IKEv2 draft

2020-05-03 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 10:54:26PM +0300, Yoav Nir wrote: > [With chair hat on] > > Yes, the charter says that we are to make a guidance document. If the working > group feels that it’s better to put the specification and guidance in a > single document, we can work on that and clear it with

Re: [IPsec] Clarifications and Implementation Guidelines for using TCP Encapsulation in IKEv2 draft

2020-04-29 Thread Yoav Nir
[With chair hat on] Yes, the charter says that we are to make a guidance document. If the working group feels that it’s better to put the specification and guidance in a single document, we can work on that and clear it with the ADs. Charters can be modified. Yoav > On 29 Apr 2020, at

Re: [IPsec] Clarifications and Implementation Guidelines for using TCP Encapsulation in IKEv2 draft

2020-04-29 Thread Valery Smyslov
Hi Tommy, > Hi Valery, > > Thanks for bringing this up again. Would you be interested in making this an > RFC8229bis instead? I think it would be most useful for an implementer to fold > some of these clarifications into the main text itself. How do you feel about > that? I'd be happy to do it.

Re: [IPsec] Clarifications and Implementation Guidelines for using TCP Encapsulation in IKEv2 draft

2020-04-29 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020, Tommy Pauly wrote: Thanks for bringing this up again. Would you be interested in making this an RFC8229bis instead? I think it would be most useful for an implementer to fold some of these clarifications into the main text itself. How do you feel about that? That might

Re: [IPsec] Clarifications and Implementation Guidelines for using TCP Encapsulation in IKEv2 draft

2020-04-29 Thread Tommy Pauly
Hi Valery, Thanks for bringing this up again. Would you be interested in making this an RFC8229bis instead? I think it would be most useful for an implementer to fold some of these clarifications into the main text itself. How do you feel about that? Best, Tommy > On Apr 28, 2020, at 2:54

[IPsec] Clarifications and Implementation Guidelines for using TCP Encapsulation in IKEv2 draft

2020-04-28 Thread Valery Smyslov
Hi, a one and half year ago at IETF 103 in Bangkok I presented draft-smyslov-ipsecme-tcp-guidelines "Clarifications and Implementation Guidelines for using TCP Encapsulation in IKEv2" (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-smyslov-ipsecme-tcp-guidelines/). >From my recollection of the meeting