Just wondering, as I miss getting my Imus fix on WFAN-660 during sunrise
skip thanks to Al Sharpton (and I don't recall him ever being fired for
concocting the Tawana Brawley scam)...what are the former Imus affiliates
doing to fill the AM drive slot since that crack about the Rutgers female
Ca. '91, Narragansett Electric Co. offered Rhode Islanders who lived in Gold
Medallion Homes several cash savers. Fellow arrived. Politely introduced
himself. Produced massive rubber boot, one end of which he affixed to large
fan,
other to door. Secured windows. Turned on fan. Calculated air
B -
This is what some RI legislator proposes. CA leads way, along w/couple other
states. Bans set several years into future - in tradition adopted during 90s
- subsequent to couple election cycles. They know exactly what they're doing.
State by state thing.
Rooftop beacons here use
Yes, UK is infected w/this virus, the home of 'knife control', as they call
it, with a straight face. First, ban. Next, house by house confiscation. They
think of everything. Good time to bury incandescents vacuum tubes in PVC
pipes, along w/whatever else might be in them.
1. Per earlier post re Rhode Islanders former Narragansett Electric Co.,
CFB program entirely voluntary. Company intent: promote CFBs juice-saving
w/free samples. Entirely benign beneficial to homeowners. Very kind of them,
actually, to test for seal air leaks. Fellow who arrived most
--- Bob Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes I don't even like (hate actually) the 1.6 gallon toilets that we
have to
use here in MA (whole country maybe?) they clog at the drop of the
hat. Also
hate the restricted shower heads we have to use here, just call me Al
Bundy
I guess,
***
--- Charles A Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Group,
Without looking at the NRC Log really carefully, and after consulting
FCC's AM Query, I listened to my mystery 1580 ID several times for
clues.
I came to the conclusion that it could be WXLA, but after
researching
available data I
To understand 1.6gal terlets, one must first master Algorethmetic.
'Techno-czar' who solemnly intoned - with straight face - 'shortwave data rate
too
slow', foisted many fine innovations upon us. This was to our great benefit and
modest, surely, profit of cronies.
1.6 gal terlets use 1/3
Listened from 1225-1310 ut
153 Russia, Radio Rossii weak 1229 with music.
774 Japan, JOUB weak 1239 man in Japanese.
1566 Republic of Korea, HLAZ fair at 1248.
With the A 27 K 5, was surprised that I heard anything TP wise.
Dennis,
Vancouver, WA
JRC 545
Ewe NW H-800
At 08:48 PM 4/28/2007 -0700, you wrote:
This is hardly news any more, but FYI, KGYN-1210 was inbooming here, S9+20
close to its supposed null, before and after 0200 UT April 29, with Cody`s
Classic Country Countdown. Also heard a break for local ``high plains``
weather.
73, Glenn Hauser, Enid
There is a black market in old toilets in Mass. I suppose you
go to the local coke or gun pusher on a street corner in Dorchester to
get one.
73
Tom Jones
High Flush N.H.
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 06:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Russ Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
--- Bob Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Another trip down memory lane. Used to us an NE2
to detect HV on BW TV's as a detector to see if a
microwave oven is transmitting
73
Tom Jones
Mason N.H.
On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 21:12:33 -0400 Craig Healy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You want a small demonstration? Take an ordinary
HEAR HEAR !!!
I had a gang of them when I moved in to this house
they do QRM. Most are gone now, just a few where they rarely get
used. One interesting note on florecents back abt 1990 some new
Zenith remotes wouldnt work in the home. Turned out that some
florecents flooded out the
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Subject: Re: [IRCA] CFB (Compact Florescent Blubs)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:23:08 EDT
Still,
incandescents preferred, warmer light. Difference between
Some may recall news reports during the oh-so-delightful 90s regarding
toilets being smuggled in from Canada.
z
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At 02:18 AM 4/29/2007 -0400, you wrote:
Calls WX or WSLE do not match uo with freq 1580
according to 2 station logs so the ID catch nust have
been something else,or it wasn't on 1580.---Bill in BC
Bill,
That's covered in an earlier posting that (apparently)
you didn't see.
I listened carefully
At 07:37 PM 4/28/2007 -0700, you wrote:
Cholly,
Here in AZ, it is not uncommon to have SS announcers and music but
some EE ads.
Kevin
Kevin,
This seems to be the case, and I guess Taco Bell is willing to buy
time on an XE-type SS. I never thought to ask Mexicans in Delano
what they think of
At 09:26 PM 4/28/2007 -0700, you wrote:
Willis,
I always buy things I need on sale. Sometimes, I forget how many of
something I have. I just counted and I have 42 - 60 75 watts bulbs. I
found a few I had behind some other stuff that apparently have been
there for years. I also found two packages
Jones -
As ever, well said, sir.
- Zecchino
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Ca. '91, Narragansett Electric Co. offered Rhode Islanders who
lived in Gold
Medallion Homes several cash savers.
I had EXACTLY the same deal in 1989. I guarantee you, that
Naragansett Electric guy made a believer out of me with the CFLs.
Next made generous proposition. Accept several
I just have had experience with the two Pacific Power sent as freebe's.
I still have them, but they put out carriers. My originial thread, I
asked if there were any noise free CFB's out there. But I have noticed
at Fred Meyer the CFB's that were $10 each have come down to $2.95 ea
now. So more
What gets me is, saving a few watts on a light bulb or two, while people
run big screen TVs, computers, etc. Those use a lot more juice than a
light bulb or two.
73,
Patrick
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Charlie,
Nothing, I know nothing (As Shultz would say) hi. Anyway, forget the 40
watt bulbs, not bright enough. But I have plenty of storage space in the
utility room. I could store 500 bulbs if I wanted to. But at 99 cents
for a 4 pack, it doesn't cost much to buy a pack or two when I go
Tom,
That is why I am beginning to buy a few more packs of regular bulbs when
I go to the store. Keeping a couple hundred bulbs doesn't take all that
much room. I don't want to have to turn off the lights in the house to
DX. :) Of course the LCD ones are available, but as of now, they are an
Anyone willing to place money on an outright ban on the sale (let alone use)
of incandescent bulbs in the US had better be ready, willing, and able to
lose his money! IT WON'T HAPPEN. It would be political suicide for any
legislator who voted for it. I can, however, easily imagine a high tax on
I am not against new things to improve our life. But does everything
that is new have to have so much excess baggage along with it? A noise
free bulb that uses 10% of the power would be nice. If there are any
noise free ones out there, I would like to know which ones. Kevin, what
brand are yours?
The Law of Unintended Consequences is joyously salivating for an
incandescent ban.
Gerry-
Did you really mean, Intended consequences? FDR wrote that Nothing
happens by accident, if it happens, so one planned it.
Willis
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Yes, UK is infected w/this virus, the home of 'knife control', as they
call
it, with a straight face. First, ban. Next, house by house confiscation.
They
think of everything. Good time to bury incandescents vacuum tubes in PVC
pipes, along w/whatever else might be in them.
Oh, come on, Mr.
Yes I don't even like (hate actually) the 1.6 gallon toilets that we
have to use here in MA (whole country maybe?) they clog at the drop of
the
hat. Also hate the restricted shower heads we have to use here, just
call me Al
*** So far, not the whole country. And they are a pain -
Such whining!
I'm buying only CFBs these days, and I haven't seen noise issues with any,
except for one of the early ones that was purchased 10+ years ago. The
technology has improved greatly in recent years, so please give them a fair
shake.
I also have a low-flush toilet and a low-flow
Right-o!
Too much weed it is, drift algae, plentiful locally. cheaper than No.
Atlantic seaweed, albeit effective.
z
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The apartment building, where I live, just replaced all incandescent
bulbs with compact fluorescent. If i recall correctly, the building
supervisor said they replaced over 3200 bulbs. I just tested one by
moving a lamp next to my 40 loop and listening on 4 empty AM
frequencies. I did not
I'm buying only CFBs these days, and I haven't seen noise issues with any,
except for one of the early ones that was purchased 10+ years ago. The
technology has improved greatly in recent years, so please give them a
fair
shake.
Yes, we have 6 in the house, no QRN. The major problem is the
--- willis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The major gripe I have is that a 100 watt florescent
buld is not as bright
as a 100 watt incondecent bulb.
Incandescent.
You can't purchase a 100 W standard base fluorescent
compact. The 100 watt ones are mogul base, and
generally are 6500 lumens.
Right-o!
Too much weed it is, drift algae, plentiful locally. cheaper than No.
Atlantic seaweed, albeit effective.
Yes, that Atlantic sea weed is the best. In the navy in 1965, we went
through the Sargasso sea. Solid sea weed. Great smokin' for the whole ship!!
But let dry first, lites
At 10:52 AM 4/29/2007, you wrote:
Such whining!
I'm buying only CFBs these days, and I haven't seen noise issues with any,
except for one of the early ones that was purchased 10+ years ago. The
technology has improved greatly in recent years, so please give them a fair
shake.
I also have a
At 10:42 AM 4/28/2007 -0700, you wrote:
WSB, WSB everywhere and all our brain cells did shrink
WSB from the water fountain where I went to have a drink
Apologies to Mr. Taylor of the Samuel C. flavor.
Chuck
Chuck,
You'd BETTER apologize!
If you have any ideas about becoming a poet, well we're
I get QRM from dimmers but very little from CFLs, regardless of wattage or
brand.
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What gets me is, saving a few watts on a light bulb or two, while people
run big screen TVs, computers, etc. Those use a lot more juice than a
light bulb or two.
Pat-
There corporate money behind this light bulb crap. Just like insurance
companies, when the money gets right and into the
A shamed Chuck replies:
I go like one that hath been stunned,
And is of sense forlorn:
A sadder and a wiser man,
I'll rise the morrow morn.
To find my prose rejected thus
In your email deleted can.
Still apologizing to Samuel T. C.
Chuck (channeling the ghost of Bill Wurtzel if anyone
But there are a lot more bulbs than TVs, computers, etc., so if enough
incandescent bulbs are replaced with CFL, the impact on energy usage will be
significant.
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On Behalf Of willis
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 2:44 PM
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- Original Message -
From: Tim Kridel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But there are a lot more bulbs than TVs, computers, etc., so if enough
incandescent bulbs are replaced with CFL, the impact on energy usage will
be
significant.
Tim, the whole idea is nothing more than class A1, gold platted, Bull
I don't know what to tell you. You sound like one of those people who
perceives everything as a conspiracy. I don't think there's a need for a
government mandate for CFLs, but I also don't think that it's a myth that
they reduce energy usage, based on personal experience. I've replaced most
of my
--- Dan Strassberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone willing to place money on an outright ban on the sale (let
alone use)
of incandescent bulbs in the US had better be ready, willing, and
able to
lose his money! IT WON'T HAPPEN. It would be political suicide for
any
legislator who voted
--- Patrick Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am not against new things to improve our life. But does everything
that is new have to have so much excess baggage along with it?
*** The theory of planned obsolescence carries with it a sidecar
containing the law of unintended consequences.
--- willis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Law of Unintended Consequences is joyously salivating for an
incandescent ban.
Gerry-
Did you really mean, Intended consequences? FDR wrote that Nothing
happens by accident, if it happens, so one planned it.
The Law of Unintended
I agree with you Tim..
Paul
On 4/29/07, Tim Kridel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know what to tell you. You sound like one of those people who
perceives everything as a conspiracy. I
Tim, the whole idea is nothing more than class A1, gold platted, Bull
S%#.
Just another form of mass
--- Barry McLarnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Such whining!
I'm buying only CFBs these days, and I haven't seen noise issues with
any,
except for one of the early ones that was purchased 10+ years ago.
The
technology has improved greatly in recent years, so please give them
a fair
--- Tim Kridel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But there are a lot more bulbs than TVs, computers, etc., so if
enough
incandescent bulbs are replaced with CFL, the impact on energy usage
will be
significant.
*** Last I knew, if I have a savings of 1-2% and so does everyone else,
that's
1%-2% spread across tens of millions of households adds up.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Russ Edmunds
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 5:04 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] CFB (Compact
For those who feel that banning the normal incandescent bulb is a good idea,
I refer you to this. Mind the potential URL wrap.
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/financialpost/story.html?id=aa7796aa-e4a5-4c06-be84-b62dee548fda
The message here is *never* report *anything* to the government
Sorry that I ratted yours. Put your tin foil hat back on.
-Original Message-
From: willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 5:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IRCA] CFB (Compact Florescent Blubs)
Tim-
You remind me of the story about the blond and the
At 12:59 PM 4/29/2007 -0700, you wrote:
A shamed Chuck replies:
I go like one that hath been stunned,
And is of sense forlorn:
A sadder and a wiser man,
I'll rise the morrow morn.
To find my prose rejected thus
In your email deleted can.
Still apologizing to Samuel T. C.
Chuck (channeling the
*** Don't be so sure. It doesn't take a legislative move. Neither the
House nor Senate ever voted to take away analog television, but it's
going away just the same.
Thanks Russ. This younger generation haven't clue as to how government
works.
Now if Tim and Paul would learn to listen to the
Very good, Russ. I put that post in a file, so I can use you comment again.
Willis
- Original Message -
From: Russ Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
irca@hard-core-dx.com
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [IRCA] CFB
ah, OK -- so that is why the masses welcomed Castro Che in 1959 . . .
ef
revolting in his own way
Willis wrote:
Be glad you still have a shower and a toilet.
In Cuba, 1958, they took all those things and the light bulbs from the
homes.Made the people work to get them back.
Dear Comrade-
What communist publication did you copy the propaganda from?? I need to know
to see if you copied it correctly, as I may have a copy of the book.
My info comes directly from the Cuban people who were there at the take
over, I meet them when I was stationed at Guantanamo naval base
On Sunday 29 April 2007 14:33, willis wrote:
Have you ever given serious thought as to the real reason for all these
problems of recent years?? Doesn't it seem strange to you that all of a
sudden, we have no water, no air, no electric, and an over abundance of
rules and laws that always favor
Billy Bragg - Waiting for the Great Leap Forwards
It may have been camelot for jack and jacqueline
But on the che guevara highway filling up with gasoline
Fidel castro's brother spies a rich lady who's crying
Over luxury's disappointment
So he walks over and he's trying
To sympathise with her but
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Guys,
I kinda hope this CFB thread goes away. It's so tiresome to read and read
and reread back and forth sparring that gradually gets away from MW DX
and turns toward politics and philosophy.
Let it be said that I would be a Rush Limbaugh listener, but I tire of
hearing talk radio. I agree with
Craig Healy wrote:
For those who feel that banning the normal incandescent bulb is a good idea,
I refer you to this. Mind the potential URL wrap.
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/financialpost/story.html?id=aa7796aa-e4a5-4c06-be84-b62dee548fda
Not to prolong this ready-to-expired
Ooops.
enlightening alternatives to steam dog-dump agitprop chunkily burped up by
NYSlimes, Slime Magazine, Newsgeek, other wretched pinksheets -
_www.babalublog.com_ (http://www.babalublog.com) _www.marcmasferrer.com_
(http://www.marcmasferrer.com) _www.therealcuba.com_
Dan,
I was at Fred Meyer looking at bulbs yesterday and I saw some bulb. I
thought it may be a CFB, but it was shaped like a regular bulb, but it
said something like uses 20 watts and as bright as a 60 watt bulb or
something like that. It was $5. I have no idea what it was. I don't see
why they
PS -
Isn't Google fun? Safe, gentle, proven effective, too. Google 'Camillo
Cienfuegos' to discover what happens even to don Fido cheech's loyal
supporters.
Exploding aircraft erase the inconvenient. Imagine that? Don fido - on the
cutting edge, eh?
Exploding aircraft. Preposterous
Berry,
Small sacrafices you say? Well if I could buy a noise free bulb, that
would be fine. I mean NO NOISE, not any. I don't want anything more that
is a noise maker in my house. I hope you are right. Like I said, the
ones I have in the closet are noisy, but they go back 10+ years too. I
guess I
In response to my assertion that the sale or use of incandescent lamps would
never be outlawed in the US (but might be taxed heavily to encourage the
use of CFLs), Russ Edmonds wrote:
*** Don't be so sure. It doesn't take a legislative move. Neither the
House nor Senate ever voted to take away
Dave,
Thanks for the feedback. Now, check the whole dial to see if you get any
carriers, if you haven't already. I was using a touch lamp in the
bedroom sometime back and even when it was off, I still got a carrier or
two on the dial. One was 1570.
73,
Patrick
Patrick Martin
KAVT Reception
Thanks Kevin, Barry, Willis, Dave and all for the great feedback on the
CFBs. It looks like I may not have to stock up on regular bulbs after
all. I do have 50 though, so I wont need new bulbs for sometime. hi. I
will buy a new CFB and give it a try right in the DX room.
73,
Patrick
Patrick
Walt,
If they had that orangy glow then they probably were vapor lights. Oh
yes, those are noisy. The CFBs I have do not knock out the dial, but
cause wierd carriers on different frequencies. But it sounds like those
are the early ones. I am going to try one of the new ones.
73,
Patrick
Tim,
Oh yes, light dimmers. My neighbor say one on his hanging lamps. I hear
them. Fortunately I can phase out the noise and it isn't that bad. He
rarely has the lamp on these days.
73,
Patrick
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KAVT Reception Manager
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They can -- and do. I recently bought a few CFL floods for recessed ceiling
cans that are basically a CFL inside of a regular flood-shaped bulb. The
CFL floods also are available in dimmable versions, which cost more.
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Go back to DX at the A at 27? I don't think cx are going to be all that
good tonight anyway.
73,
Patrick
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Charlie,
I agree with you. We should move on to radio. We don't want or need
politics here. All I wanted to know if there were CFBs that were quiet
and apparently there are. Again, I want to thank everyone for their
help, but guys I am getting e mails that want us to move on.
73,
Patrick
My originial question was Are there any that do not cause QRM? That is
all I needed to know. Mandating them or not was not an issue with me
other that the noise situation. We can always stock the regular bulbs if
we want to. But it sounds like the new ones are quiet.
73,
Patrick
Patrick Martin
Dan wrote-
Sorry, I can't agree with that conclusion either; it's a HUGE stretch to
get
from analog TV to incandescent bulbs. Now, however, you MIGHT be able to
make the case that the FCC would outlaw HD Radio because the receivers
consume so much energy! R-i-i-i-ght!
You missed Russ Point. He
Don't know what kind of clamp you are talking about but the double
loop harp clamp works perfectly on my CFLs.
Kevin
On Apr 29, 2007, at 10:27 AM, Dan Strassberg wrote:
I have lamps in the house whose shades clamp over the spherical
portion of
incandescent bulbs. Such shades are not
In my experience, yeah, they do generate lotsa QRN. I don't use them in my
shack for that reason.
And, more seriously, one CFB in our kitchen started smoking a couple months
ago. No damage to anything else, but the base of the bulb was charred
pretty good and the kitchen stank of melted plastic
760 CFLD BC, Burns Lake, good and solid with oldies music Take
On Me by A -ha at 0330 EDT 4/27 (PM-OR)
770CHQRAB, Calgary at 0340 EDT 4/27 News Radio QR 770 ID
after news story. (PM-OR)
870 CFBVBC, Smithers, // to 760 with A-Ha song at 0330 EDT 4/27,
but weaker. (PM-OR)
On Sunday 29 April 2007 14:33, willis wrote:
Have you ever given serious thought as to the real reason for all these
problems of recent years?? Doesn't it seem strange to you that all of a
sudden, we have no water, no air, no electric, and an over abundance of
rules and laws that always
I sincerely apologize to everyone for starting this thread. I didn't expect
for one minute that it would degenerate into left vs right name-calling, etc.
Come on fellas. All I wanted to do was to inform the readers of the
legislation here in Canada, and what effect, if any, it would have on
--- Patrick Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dan,
I was at Fred Meyer looking at bulbs yesterday and I
saw some bulb. I
thought it may be a CFB, but it was shaped like a
regular bulb, but it
said something like uses 20 watts and as bright as a
60 watt bulb or
something like that. It was
Electric lighting is a fad anyway: whale oil is the future!
Save the whales!!
Collect all ten!!
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Providence, RI
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On Sunday 29 April 2007 10:02:17 pm Patrick Martin wrote:
Well if I could buy a noise free bulb, that
would be fine. I mean NO NOISE, not any. I don't want anything more that
is a noise maker in my house.
At least for me, I absolutely hate the color and flicker of fluorescent
lighting. I have
Walt,
I am the one that asked the question about the CFB. All I wanted to know
if there are any quiet ones. This thread should not have gone into a
political thing. Fellas, lets move on to DX. Isn't that the real reason
we are here? Infact a while ago I posted some tips.
By the way, on a
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