There was an article foating around called something like, Is Your lead
in a snake? There were experiments about grounding the coax.
This was simply laid on the ground in a fairly straight line. Nothing
buried. I tried ground each end separately, and both ends. Nada.. I could
try grounding
Craig,
Guy Atkins on another list suggested QS6, the Quad shield cable, 2 sets
of braid and two sets of foil. Apparently that is what the cable
companies use. I have never tried it, but I did a google search and it
quite popular.
I went out tonight and attached a ground at the far end of the
1600KATZMO, St. Louis, fair on top of jumble at 0415 EDT 8/18
with ancr saying Tell your pastor about Gospel 1600. (PM-OR)
1600 UNID Station running Coast to Coast at 0412 EDT 8/18. Who?
(PM-OR)
Drake R8
1500' Eastern beverage, term.
Patrick Martin
KAVT Reception Manager
From allaccess.com
KCKK/Denver Abruptly Back To Country
What's going on with KCKK-A/DENVER? The Sports format that signed on a few
weeks ago as MILE HIGH SPORTS RADIO with SPORTING NEWS RADIO and some
local hosts, including TIM NEVERETT, disappeared abruptly YESTERDAY and the
previous Classic
At 11:45 AM 8/17/2007 -0700, you wrote:
U.S.A.: Radio Marti-1180, Marathon, FL. P/d letter
in 7 days after a followup. V/s: Margaret
Ray de Arenas - Assistant to the Director.
Letter also said they were designing new
QSL cards (something they've been
I'm not sure what directivity of the unwanted signals on the
coax for the most part are a non issue means. Antennas have directivity,
but signals
In a well-built system, disconnecting the coax from the matching transformer
ought to leave you with no pickup. well built means using coax that
Patrick:
Cable systems need very good shielding to prevent over-the-air signals and
noise from getting into the cable system. Because of that, you can easily
and cheaply buy quad shielded RG6.
It should have no leakage through the shield.
That doesn't mean the problem is totally solved. You
560 WMIK KY MIDDLESBORO 0100 18.08.07
AD FOR MIDDLESBORO TROPHEY SHOP IN DOWNTOWN MIDDLESBORO
ID AT 0100, THIS IS WMIK, AM 560, FAMILY RADIO, MIDDLESBORO, KENTUCKY.
BACK INTO SOUTHERN GOSPEL MUSIC. LOTS OF QRN. [WM-TN]
If they are really on 88 watts, there is some great propagation
In a well-built system, disconnecting the coax from the matching
transformer
ought to leave you with no pickup. well built means using coax that
totally shields the conductor, grounding the shield well, and keeping
pickup
on the shield from getting to the radio by using choke baluns.
The
Listened from 1135 ut- 1312 ut. Not as good as yesterday morning. 738 was
about as strong as a carrier can get and still have no audio. At 1256 no KCBS
splatter, just a strong carrier on 738. Lower band TPs seemed to fade out at
1258 ut. Upper band TPs still active at this time, but fell
1116 was the best DU heard this morning, with weak talk. Others with poor
audio: 657, 702, 828, 855--1230-1300 utc.
1737 KUT, PNG beacon poor, 1300 utc.
Russian LWBC poor with 189kc.
Steve
NE Oregon
R75, longwires, active whip
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Listened from 1145-1245 UT and heard these weak carriers 648, 693, 774, 828 and
1566.
Bill Block
Prescott Valley, AZ
Drake R8 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Date: Sat, 18 Aug
2007 13:14:31 + Subject: [IRCA] TPs 5-18-07Listened from 1135 ut-
1312 ut. Not as good as
I will be at the IRCA Convention on Thursday around noon.
Bill Block
Prescott Valley, AZ
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:40:49 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: [IRCA] Convention Right now, I'm planning
on attending both. Phil Bytheway --- [EMAIL
Chuck,
I expect some pickup of unwanted signals on disconnected coax from the
antennas, but I did not expect CBU at S9!!! I have no idea if replacing
the coax with something like Quad shield will make any difference in the
directivity of the beverage or not, but it would give me peace of mind.
I
Chuck,
I just installed a new 10 foot copper pipe for the receiver ground a few
days back. So that should be enough. I probably will have to mail for
Quad Shield RG6 as I doubt any of it is available on the coast.
For the record, the local cable company (Charter) has leaky cable. For
cable we
At 12:38 18/08/2007, you wrote:
That's exactly what I thought. When the dummy antenna was connected to the
receiver, no signals at all. Put in the 150' of RS coax, and viola! Just
like a BOG of 150'. However, when I swapped out the RS stuff for an
equivalent length of brand new Belden RG-6
At 15:58 17/08/2007, you wrote:
how many going to the iRCA convention?
will be at SLC...
Nick
Nick Hall-Patch
Victoria, B.C.
Canada
Nick,
The question still is Does this added pick up from the coax affect an
antenna's pattern? In the case of Craig's loops, it did. But how about
beverages, EWEs, etc? How much does the extra pick up add to the
pattern? In the case of taking the R8 out to the antenna input and
comparing S Meter
Right now at 1 PM Central, I am receiving two separate stations on 1,660
kHz. Both are repeating the same message over and over. The dominant
stations message is:
Testing 1, 2, 3. Testing 1, 2, 3. This is car number 8
I fired up a few portable receivers to see if this was an image or
A few quick questions...
As to the quality of the coax, did you strip away the outer insulation
and take a look at the shield?
What was the braid coverage on the shield, at least 98%? Was the shield
tinned? Was there *any* of the dielectric visible through the shield?
If there was a foil
Craig Healy wrote:
Never heard that, but I'll listen. 1660 around here is pretty busy,
unfortunately. Maybe there's a Car 54 in there somewhere? (grin)
Roflmao, that is one of the first thoughts I had when I tuned in to
these signals, lol! I've emailed fellow Memphis DXers Jim Pogue and
I wouldn't assume 1 pipe is good enough. The soil in your area has as low a
conductivity as any place in the US. If you still have problems, a second
ground pipe will cut the grounding resistance in half so is a worthwhile
effort.
One of the cheaper places for quad shield is the ebay dealer in
A couple of notes here.
Long ago when I first started DX'ing, I discovered that I could get a
much stronger signal by holding a handheld transistor radio up to the
phone line or a water pipe. Both of these are normally well gounded
systems. I quickly discovered that the local strong signals were
:Product: Geophysical Alert Message wwv.txt
:Issued: 2007 Aug 18 1810 UTC
# Prepared by the US Dept. of Commerce, NOAA, Space Environment Center
#
# Geophysical Alert Message
#
Solar-terrestrial indices for 17 August follow.
Solar flux 68 and mid-latitude A-index 4.
The mid-latitude
Never heard that, but I'll listen. 1660 around here is pretty busy,
unfortunately. Maybe there's a Car 54 in there somewhere? (grin)
There is a teeny weeny station for the drivers ed at Mesa HS in Mesa,
AZ. They sound just like that but they are on 1650. I would not be
surprised that a
Rick,
In my case the braid is not 100% coverage of the inter foil. The
connectors are all well crimped on and very tight. But I don't have 100%
shield from the braid at least. The foil may be 100%, but I have no idea
how well it is on there. It is not glued anywhere, just wrapped around.
73,
:Product: Geophysical Alert Message wwv.txt
:Issued: 2007 Aug 19 0003 UTC
# Prepared by the US Dept. of Commerce, NOAA, Space Environment Center
#
# Geophysical Alert Message
#
Solar-terrestrial indices for 18 August follow.
Solar flux 68 and mid-latitude A-index 1.
The mid-latitude
Patrick Martin wrote:
I would think if the center connector of good coax had quad shield,
you should hardly get any signal with the braid grounded.
Keep in mind that there are really three conductive surfaces on any
piece of single-shield coaxial cable.
One is the outer surface of the
1120 WKQW PA OIL CITY 2106 18.08.07
CLASSIC COUNTRY SONGS WITH AN ID AT 2106, WKQW WILDCATTER COUNTRY
THEN DISSAPPEARED. ON TOP OF KMOX FOR ABOUT ABOUT 15 MINUTES. [WM-TN]
WKQW is still in their they only QSBed for a while. Now at 2118 are back on
top of KMOX. Someone
Rick,
Thanks again for the great advice. So most Quad RG6 is not made for
burying. That I did not want to hear! Hardline would work, but very
expensive and stiff as a board to use. Not fun. It has been years since
I delt with any hardline.
I wonder if they make Quad RG6 you can bury? I know some
Rick,
I wish I had a real dummy load, as I could check it better. but
grounding the shield with the antenna disconnected, I fiqure I should be
getting nothing but the locals. That is not the case. The RG6 seems to
be working fine as there is no loss or water getting into it as far I
can tell.
Rick,
I'll bet most of the coax that DXers are using is the same grade that I
am using. I wonder what the difference would be if we all switched to
Quad RG6? Would we notice that much of a difference? I am wondering
changing to the Quad RG6, what the Eastern beverage will react like? As
I
Don't forget that DX Engineering recommends their 75 ohm F-6 Style Direct
Bury coax. They have good things to say about it, and recommend it for all
their receiving application products.
http://www.dxengineering.com/
Look for the RG-213/RG-8X section on the home page, then click on the link
to
Patrick Martin wrote:
I'll bet most of the coax that DXers are using is the same grade that I
am using. I wonder what the difference would be if we all switched to
Quad RG6?
The answer to that would depend on how much coax-based signal ingress
there is on a given installation. If there is
Patrick Martin wrote:
So most Quad RG6 is not made for
burying.
You could always bury it in a protective tube. I've seen garden hose
used. But that's just as big a hassle to install as hardline. Your worry
will be jacket failure and water ingress.
Hardline would work, but very
expensive
I dusted off the Quantum QX Loop to DF this and the bearing is approx
135-140 degrees (assuming it is SE, 315-320 degrees if not) from
Memphis. That would put it in eastern half of Cuba or the Florida panhandle.
73,
Brandon Jordan
Memphis, TN
bcdx.org
Glenn Hauser wrote:
UNIDENTIFIED. I made my
Rick,
Since I use plastic boxes for my matching transformers, I only fitted
those with banana jaxs, so I use banana plugs on the end of the coax.
That would be hard to terminate those. I have a regular coax fitting on
the receiver end screwed into a shilded SO239 to the back of the
receiver.
By
Rick,
There might be a difference, but it might be so small not to notice it.
When I get some Quad RG6, I can do an A/B test. I guess I should put a
regular coax fitting on the plastic boxes. It would be easier as the
short wires the banana plugs are on I am sure have pick up.
73,
Patrick
Rick,
I could always use regular Quad RG6 under the house, but the 12 feet
buried, I could switch to hardline putting a female fitting on the end
under the house. But of course any extra connection there is a chance of
a stray signal.
73,
Patrick
Patrick Martin
KAVT Reception Manager
Rick,
I have some plastic tubing I have run coax through, so that is an
option.
Patrick
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KAVT Reception Manager
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Steve,
I wonder if that is Quad RG6 they have?
Direct bury would be a lot better I would think that there must be some
Quad RG6 that you can bury. There must be others that need it buried at
times, even if most of it is used for Head end use.
73,
Patrick
Patrick Martin
KAVT Reception Manager
Patrick Martin wrote:
Since I use plastic boxes for my matching transformers, I only fitted
those with banana jaxs, so I use banana plugs on the end of the coax.
That would be hard to terminate those.
That's why you have ingress. Using banana jacks on the coax does not
isolate the inner and
Patrick Martin wrote:
There might be a difference, but it might be so small not to notice it.
When I get some Quad RG6, I can do an A/B test. I guess I should put a
regular coax fitting on the plastic boxes. It would be easier as the
short wires the banana plugs are on I am sure have pick up.
At 08:30 PM 8/18/2007, you wrote:
UNIDENTIFIED. I made my first check of the mystery 1181 kHz carrier at
0230-0240 UT August 19. First of all, it`s definitely a carrier on 1181.0 and
not a tone modulated from an 1180 station. There is nothing matching it on the
low side at 1179.
Glenn, I can
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