Re: [IRCA] MORE BAD NEWS FOR FM DXERS

2010-02-03 Thread HASCALL, DAVID CIV DFAS
nnels. -- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 21:44:37 -0800 From: "Dennis Gibson" To: "Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America" Subject: Re: [IRCA] MORE BAD NEWS FOR FM DXERS Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" You can

Re: [IRCA] MORE BAD NEWS FOR FM DXERS

2010-02-02 Thread Patrick Martin
Oh yes, the noisemakers... Thx for the pix, I think. hi. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list

Re: [IRCA] MORE BAD NEWS FOR FM DXERS

2010-02-02 Thread Dennis Gibson
90683 -Original Message- From: irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com [mailto:irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:36 PM To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club ofAmerica Subject: Re: [IRCA] MORE BAD NEWS FOR FM DXERS Yes, KEX's IBOC is terrible, but the wors

Re: [IRCA] MORE BAD NEWS FOR FM DXERS

2010-02-02 Thread Patrick Martin
Yes, KEX's IBOC is terrible, but the worst at night here is KSL, hands down. between 1160 & 1190, often, it wipes out the 1170-1180 area easily, depending on cx. Sometimes, the frequencies are decent too. Patrick Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager ___ I

Re: [IRCA] MORE BAD NEWS FOR FM DXERS

2010-02-02 Thread Patrick Martin
Barry, I know the NW has probably the least amount of AM IBOC, than anywhere in the 48 states. Hawaii has none on AM there, and there are a few in Alaska. But as KAZ warned me when AM IBOC started in at night, that I would get the IBOC 50 KW clear channels from the Midwest, and yes I sure do! I ca

Re: [IRCA] MORE BAD NEWS FOR FM DXERS

2010-02-02 Thread Barry McLarnon
On Tuesday 02 February 2010 13:33:37 Patrick Martin wrote: > Sure AM IBOC is a terror. No doubt about that. I can sometimes hear it > on adjacents next to the Chicago stations with the beverage here. Plus I > can detect 1570 with it, either from AZ 1580 or NY 1560. I wish AM IBOC > was like FM, at

Re: [IRCA] MORE BAD NEWS FOR FM DXERS

2010-02-02 Thread Mike Hawkins
When I was commuting north from San Jose in the pre-dawn hours, KEX IBOC was obliterating a Hindi station on 1200 in Soquel CA. The station's primary audience was in San Jose, so their nighttime audience was zilch due to KEX. During daytime hours, there was no problem. The Soquel station should n

Re: [IRCA] MORE BAD NEWS FOR FM DXERS

2010-02-02 Thread Patrick Martin
Mike, Sure AM IBOC is a terror. No doubt about that. I can sometimes hear it on adjacents next to the Chicago stations with the beverage here. Plus I can detect 1570 with it, either from AZ 1580 or NY 1560. I wish AM IBOC was like FM, at 50 miles it was gone. KSL is the real rough one here! Patri

Re: [IRCA] MORE BAD NEWS FOR FM DXERS

2010-02-02 Thread Patrick Martin
Dave wrote >>A plus side of the sour economy is that many FM IBOC'ers have turned their IBOC off, to save on electricity charges.<< I guess there are some good that comes out of the lean times. hi. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager ___ IR

Re: [IRCA] MORE BAD NEWS FOR FM DXERS

2010-02-02 Thread HASCALL, DAVID CIV DFAS
(Patrick Martin) To: irca@hard-core-dx.com (Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America) Subject: Re: [IRCA] MORE BAD NEWS FOR FM DXERS Message-ID: <6417-4b67dc05-...@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII >>It obliterates the adjac

Re: [IRCA] MORE BAD NEWS FOR FM DXERS

2010-02-02 Thread HASCALL, DAVID CIV DFAS
dians and New England / Maritime stations last FM DX Es season. Enjoy your find! 73, Dave in Indy -- Message: 7 Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:59:54 -0800 (PST) From: "Kevin S" To: "Mailing list for the International Radio Club of Ameri

Re: [IRCA] MORE BAD NEWS FOR FM DXERS

2010-02-02 Thread Mike Hawkins
I have heard hash from KEX in the past at 800 miles distance. Mike On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:02 AM, Patrick Martin wrote: > >>It obliterates the adjacents, as if the purpose isn't to improve a > signal so much as it is to force you to listen to your locals.<< > > I think this is a plus that sta

Re: [IRCA] MORE BAD NEWS FOR FM DXERS

2010-02-02 Thread Patrick Martin
>>It obliterates the adjacents, as if the purpose isn't to improve a signal so much as it is to force you to listen to your locals.<< I think this is a plus that stations running IBOC found out, fill the dial with wall to wall local noise, then few if any out of town stations can be heard in the D

Re: [IRCA] MORE BAD NEWS FOR FM DXERS

2010-02-01 Thread Mike Hawkins
Kevin, The biggest problem with FM IBOC isn't what you have noted...its the damage it causes to stations on adjacent frequencies. Make a note of which locals have IBOC, then go away from them by 40 miles or so. You will probably find a number of stations that come in crystal clear with very stro

Re: [IRCA] MORE BAD NEWS FOR FM DXERS

2010-02-01 Thread Kevin S
I am in the middle of Seattle, but until today haven't had a chance to really hear what the FM IBOC hash sounds like. By chance, I picked up a Yamaha T-80 tuner today at a thrift shop for $10, and it works perfectly! The AM section has dual bandwidths, but neither are very narrow, and the images

Re: [IRCA] MORE BAD NEWS FOR FM DXERS

2010-02-01 Thread Patrick Martin
Dave, I guess I live too far from the IBOC noisemakes here. Portland is 75 air miles over the Coast range and Seattle is 150. If I remember, the next time I go to Portland, I'll check out the FM dial. I just never listen to FM. Patrick Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager

Re: [IRCA] MORE BAD NEWS FOR FM DXERS

2010-02-01 Thread HASCALL, DAVID CIV DFAS
From: mwd...@webtv.net (Patrick Martin) To: irca@hard-core-dx.com (Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America) Subject: Re: [IRCA] MORE BAD NEWS FOR FM DXERS Message-ID: <14841-4b638814-...@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Mike, To be

Re: [IRCA] MORE BAD NEWS FOR FM DXERS

2010-01-30 Thread Dennis Gibson
Here it is; all 22 pages: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-10-208A1.doc Rene Tetro wrote: > >From All Access Website a few moments ago.. > > FCC APPROVES HD POWER INCREASE FOR FM > > The FCC Media Bureau > has adopted rules

Re: [IRCA] MORE BAD NEWS FOR FM DXERS

2010-01-29 Thread Patrick Martin
Mike, I guess I am too far from the FM's broadcasting in IBOC out here. First I am 75 air miles from Portland and 150 from Seattle and both over the Coast Range. Since I almost never listen to FM, I never have checked while in Portland on the van radio. If I remember, the next time I go over the m

Re: [IRCA] MORE BAD NEWS FOR FM DXERS

2010-01-29 Thread Mike Hawkins
Patrick, It is overpowering AND is very subtle. There is a station down south of Fresno on 97.1 that came in well enough to get instant RDS hits. When KLLC/97.3 turned on IBOC, 97.1 was gone completely. When their IBOC has cut in and out or been turned off for any kind of maintenance, the 97.1

Re: [IRCA] MORE BAD NEWS FOR FM DXERS

2010-01-29 Thread Patrick Martin
Mike, To be honest, I don't think I have ever noticed IBOC hash on FM out here. I am not sure I have ever heard the hash on FM period. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.

Re: [IRCA] MORE BAD NEWS FOR FM DXERS

2010-01-29 Thread Patrick Martin
Thanks Powell. That is nice to know! Hopefully AM IBOC will go away. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this

Re: [IRCA] MORE BAD NEWS FOR FM DXERS

2010-01-29 Thread Patrick Martin
Barry, Probably in time AM IBOC will go, but it may be some time. After all, AM IBOC is little use. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opin

Re: [IRCA] MORE BAD NEWS FOR FM DXERS

2010-01-29 Thread Barry McLarnon
On Friday 29 January 2010 17:56:19 Powell E. Way III wrote: > It is unlikely to be POSSIBLE to increase the power on AM. that is > unless you shut down the AM part and move to digital only on frequency. > There's no headroom in the transmitters. Aside from that, most people don't realize tha

Re: [IRCA] MORE BAD NEWS FOR FM DXERS

2010-01-29 Thread Powell E. Way III
artin To: rte...@pobox.com; Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America Sent: Fri, January 29, 2010 2:14:24 PM Subject: Re: [IRCA] MORE BAD NEWS FOR FM DXERS Is this ONLY for FM?  Not AM? Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing

Re: [IRCA] MORE BAD NEWS FOR FM DXERS

2010-01-29 Thread Mike Hawkins
I think the problem is as bad on FM than it is on AM. The only real difference is that you clearly know IBOC when you hear it on AM and it is disguised on FM. Mike Hawkins On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Patrick Martin wrote: > It looks, at least for now FM only, but knowing the NAB and FCC,

Re: [IRCA] MORE BAD NEWS FOR FM DXERS

2010-01-29 Thread Patrick Martin
It looks, at least for now FM only, but knowing the NAB and FCC, who knows if they will change the rules on AM too. Patrick Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca

Re: [IRCA] MORE BAD NEWS FOR FM DXERS

2010-01-29 Thread Patrick Martin
Is this ONLY for FM? Not AM? Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors

[IRCA] MORE BAD NEWS FOR FM DXERS

2010-01-29 Thread Rene Tetro
>From All Access Website a few moments ago.. FCC APPROVES HD POWER INCREASE FOR FM The FCC Media Bureau has adopted rules to allow FM stations to increase their digital IBOC signals' power up to 10% of their