vm+class sharing, startup time/Mac OS X

2001-03-19 Thread noisebrain
There was a discussion here recently about sharing the vm & core classes vs other approaches to reducing startup time. Apropos of that discussion, the Mac OS X java apparently does this. Announcement of its features at http://developer.apple.com/javaosdn.html ---

when does a method get compiled?

2001-03-16 Thread noisebrain
I have a performance problem that would be explained if the following were true: x = new Something() x.methodcall(); // not compiled yet x.methodcall(); // second call, compiled now? y = new int[10];// causes gc, DISCARDS THE COMPILED x ??

OT: speed penalty for 'implements serialized'

2001-01-31 Thread noisebrain
Another of those dreaded Off Topic questions: Is there ever any performance penalty for declaring that something implements Serializable? (sorry for the OT; the quality of the answers on this list outweigh the politeness factor. And, you would probably rather see this question than an on-topi

Re: JRE as part of Linux

2001-01-25 Thread noisebrain
> What is really needed is a pre-started jvm. When you start up a java > process, the jvm will fork, and the child will su to you and proceed as > normal. I don't know exactly what the jvm is doing when it is taking > all that time starting up so I don't know how useful this would be. I like t

Re: java not working in mozilla

2001-01-15 Thread noisebrain
> Mozilla doesn't understand NPX_PLUGIN_PATH. You have to create a link This fixed the problem. Thank you -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

java not working in mozilla

2001-01-15 Thread noisebrain
I've tried to get java working under mozilla several times without luck. Currently I'm using mozilla 2001010517 (released this month, I believe it's called 0.7). I'm launching it with a script that sets the environment variable NPX_PLUGIN_PATH to the jre/plugin/i386 directory of the java. I've

address for ibm jdk bugs?

2001-01-07 Thread noisebrain
Hello, does anyone know an email address at ibm that would be interested seeing bug reports in their jdk? I have one that happens in theirs but not in blackdown or sun. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a su

OT: copying binary data with Reader/Writer (rather than Stream)

2000-12-31 Thread noisebrain
Hello, (forgive me since this is mostly off topic, though the answer might possibly be specific to the operating system.) I want to write a little java app to copy a url and its relative links. The url itself is a text html file; some of the links may be binary files such as .jpg, .ps.gz, etc.

Q: java-plugin and mozilla/netscape6

2000-11-15 Thread noisebrain
In netscape4, I believe that the java plugin does not replace the internal jvm, and that web pages need to have a bit of special html to cause them to use the plugin instead of the internal jvm. Is this true in mozilla/netscape6? Or is the java plugin "the" java for mozilla? (& does it work on

Re: java developer feedback

2000-11-13 Thread noisebrain
I program desktop graphics for a large company (Disney). We develop in part on Linux and deploy on SGI, but possibly linux in the future. Elsewhere in the company there are mac clients with sun servers, etc. My two issues: 1) FONTS. The fonts look different on every platform, and they only lo

Re: Vote of 'No Confidence' in SUNs 'guidance' for Java.

2000-10-31 Thread noisebrain
and not as desirable, but for anyone who says it's the same as microsoft and and others, I'm still waiting to see the VB source ported to linux. On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Chris Abbey wrote: > At 18:11 10/30/00 -0800, noisebrain wrote: > >This (the license) does not negate the fact that t

Re: Vote of 'No Confidence' in SUNs 'guidance' for Java.

2000-10-30 Thread noisebrain
On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, [iso-8859-1] Martin Schröder wrote: > On 2000-10-29 22:26:06 -0800, noisebrain wrote: > > slightly open with it: the source *is* available, you *can* change, > > Since when? Last time I looked the source was "provided for > educational value only

Re: Vote of 'No Confidence' in SUNs 'guidance' for Java.

2000-10-29 Thread noisebrain
Nice idea but for industry programmers this would only work if there was an adequate alternative available. And if such were available, there would not be a need for the petition! The kaffe/gcj/classpath stuff is way behind sun java, and so is not an alternative. (Interesting question: is it

Re: Debugging Java on Linux with JDK1.2.2

2000-07-19 Thread noisebrain
I used a commercial app called "bugseeker" and had fairly good luck with it. It has a free 30(?) day eval period. Forte (free) also has a debugger but i have not tried it. I believe the N.Meyer's Java-Linux book has a simple debugger as one of its examples. Even if you don't keep it bugseeke

hardware opengl success

2000-07-04 Thread noisebrain
Slightly off topic, but I was able to get a opengl card to work under linux and call it successfully from Java. This took about 1.5 days of configuring, between Xfree86 4 and the particular card. The result is dramatically faster for textured renders. Particulars are: RH6.2, added Xfree86 4.0.0

hotspot server jit?

2000-06-14 Thread noisebrain
The download page for the sun 1.3 beta states that 'both client and server' jits are bundled. I don't see the server - am I overlooking it? Perhaps it's intended for the final but didn't make the beta -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, ema

jdk1.3/forte problem

2000-06-11 Thread noisebrain
I tried running the recent jdk1.3+hotspot downloaded from sun with forte community edition 1.0 v502. It has a problem whereby the jmenus pull down but then immediately disappear, so it is impossible to select any menu items. Any thoughts or suggestions on what to try? / thanks -

linux java debuggers

2000-05-06 Thread noisebrain
Matt Boersma wrote down his impressions of several debuggers- thought this might be of general interest. > Can you give me a recommendation of what debugger(s) to try under > linux? I've tried jdb but nothing else so far, and i'd like > to graduate from inserting prints. I've used: JBuilder 3.

IBM 1.3 impressions

2000-05-04 Thread noisebrain
- it uses the IBM jit rather than hotspot. Performs similarly to IBM's 1.1.8 on a couple benchmarks (i.e. very good performance, though we haven't seen what hotspot can do yet). - The Swing demo is completely rewritten, worth checking out. Java2D demo is modified slightly. - SWING IS MUC

jdb tips?

2000-04-13 Thread noisebrain
Hello, i'm trying jdb for the first time and am having difficulties. Using sun/inprise/blackdown 1.2.2(feb version) I run my app with -Xdebug -Djava.compiler=NONE -Xbootclasspath:... and it prints out e.g. Agent password=3i5347 The jdb tool doc says that I can then run jdb -host

Re: VMs with processor specific code generation

2000-02-03 Thread noisebrain
I think I see indirect evidence of the IBM/intel/linux 118 jvm using PII instructions - see the RESAMPLE benchmark at www.idiom.com/~zilla/Computer/javaCbenchmark.html This is a synthetic benchmark available in java and C++ versions. On a PII machine the java code runs faster than the C++ cod

ibm jdk118 > g++ -O

2000-01-14 Thread noisebrain
I was considering whether we needed to write some image resampling inner loops in C++, and wrote a little bilinear interpolation "mock up" resampling routine. On a Celeron machine the ibm jdk is actually a hair faster than the C++ version compiled with -O. Note that the C++ is not compiled wit

Re: Blackdown JDK vs Sun/Inprise

1999-12-20 Thread noisebrain
Aren't we forgetting something in this discussion? Average PC has 64M, you want to write an application that runs on this PC, your dev environment (JBuilder or whatever) has, in addition to the application, a compiler, the IDE, a debugger... ...your development environment is probably going to

appreciating sun

1999-12-12 Thread noisebrain
I find some of the sun-bashing both counter-productive and slightly embarrassing. Personally, I *want* new versions of the jdk to be released in synch with the Windows and Solaris releases, rather than a year later. I want Sun to support Linux rather than think that we're all a bunch of crazed

html in JLabel, etc: update swing in 1.2prev2?

1999-11-22 Thread noisebrain
I have a project where I want badly to use the htlm-in-component stuff that is part of Swing1.1.1 (you can label your buttons,fields, etc. with any html, .e.g., String htmlText = "A JLabel with various text styles" + "And a new line!"; JLabel myLabel = new JLabel(htmlText

java vs. C benchmark

1999-11-11 Thread noisebrain
Benchmarks updated for borland's javacomp - this jit does not compile routines that are only called once, so the benchmark main now calls the top-level benchmark routine with an iteration of 1, then calls again with the desired iteration count. -

1.2.2 port update

1999-11-11 Thread noisebrain
I didn't see mention of it on this list, but the status page appears to be updated as of 10/30: "There is still one known problem with SMP systems but I hope we can do a 1.2.2 (and a 1.1.8) release in the second half of November. " also there is a 1.3beta port status page from the same date "

Re: borland/inprise jit for blackdown 1.2pre2

1999-09-28 Thread noisebrain
I think that the speed depends on what benchmark you run, though the new borland jit seems generally faster than the sunwjit that comes with 1.2pre2. There's a table of timings of several linux jits versus C at www.idiom.com/~zilla/Computer/javaCbenchmark.html

Re: borland/inprise jit for blackdown 1.2pre2

1999-09-27 Thread noisebrain
us? Will this go into > the blackdown release from now on? > > > - Original Message - > From: noisebrain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 11:58 AM > Subject: borland/inprise jit for blackdown 1.2pre2 > &

borland/inprise jit for blackdown 1.2pre2

1999-09-27 Thread noisebrain
Linux platform. For example, compilation is 33% faster when using the JBuilder JIT for Linux in place of the default JIT included with the Java 2 Linux JDK noisebrain --- www.idiom.com/~

IBM Linux Java updated to jdk1.1.8

1999-09-18 Thread noisebrain
http://www.alphaWorks.ibm.com/tech/linuxjvm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]