Re: An IDE for C and JAVA

1998-12-23 Thread Christopher Hinds
Who needs a GUI Builder? Ever try creating an extremely complex UI with many components and combinations of layout managers( like GridBagLayout ). Sure if you are building server side EJBs , Servlets or non-visual Beans you won't need a GUI Builder but for any thing else I think it is absolutely e

Re: An IDE for C and JAVA

1998-12-23 Thread Peter B. West
Kirk Hutchinson made the following typo: > I assume you are able > to serf the web from every machine on your lan? Isn't that what Microsoft is trying to do? Yours faithfully, -- __ /__ Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://www.uq.net.au/~zzpwest / "Lord, to whom shall

Re: An IDE for C and JAVA

1998-12-23 Thread Magnus Niemann
On Wed, 23 Dec 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > SAYS WHO??? > > The BEST IDE for JAVA (better than SVC), is NETBEANS... > > try http://www.netbeans.com... it is 100% swing based. u need JDK1.1.6 (not > 1.1.7/1.1.5). > and linux kernel > 2.0.32 But NetBeans is extremely slow on even good Pentium

Re: An IDE for C and JAVA

1998-12-22 Thread Peter-Frank Spierenburg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > SAYS WHO??? > > The BEST IDE for JAVA (better than SVC), is NETBEANS... > > try http://www.netbeans.com... it is 100% swing based. u need JDK1.1.6 (not > 1.1.7/1.1.5). Actually, I'm running NetBeans on JDK1.1.7v1a with TYA. Its a little flakey. Some of the dialogs

Re: An IDE for C and JAVA

1998-12-22 Thread Kirk Hutchinson
Ok, ok, I admit that I have never added JDE to Emacs or XEmacs to see how it would perform. I used to use XEmacs extensively when I used a Solaris machine at work, and I enjoyed it. If I would call Kawa an IDE, I suppose XEmacs could also be called an IDE. However, my main distinction between a

Re: An IDE for C and JAVA

1998-12-22 Thread Kirk Hutchinson
ginal Message- > From: Kirk Hutchinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, December 21, 1998 10:06 PM > To: linux java > Subject: Re: An IDE for C and JAVA > > First of all, XEmacs is not an IDE. It's a code editor - that's it. > > It's really

Re: An IDE for C and JAVA

1998-12-22 Thread wyrd
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > SAYS WHO??? > > The BEST IDE for JAVA (better than SVC), is NETBEANS... not sure if it's the best, but I've found I like it, too. > try http://www.netbeans.com... it is 100% swing based. u need JDK1.1.6 (not > 1.1.7/1.1.5). Hmmm...I'm sure I've run it with 1.1.7.

Re: An IDE for C and JAVA

1998-12-22 Thread John Summerfield
On Tue, 22 Dec 1998, John Goerzen wrote: > On Tue, Dec 22, 1998 at 11:11:08AM +0100, Artur Biesiadowski wrote: > > > John Goerzen wrote: > > > > I personally do not use highly integrated IDEs and it seems that you do > > not also, but do not think that Xemacs is an IDE - it is just very smart >

Re: An IDE for C and JAVA

1998-12-22 Thread Jason Dillon
SN costs too much... and last I checked the free version did not save. --jason On 22-Dec-98 David Lucas wrote: > Have not looked at it in a while, but Source Navigator from Cygnus folks > might be worth looking at. > > Check out www.cygnus.com for more info. > > Later, > Dave > > -- > > +-

Re: An IDE for C and JAVA

1998-12-22 Thread bdutta
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: linux java <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 8:36 AM Subject: Re: An IDE for C and JAVA >First of all, XEmacs is not an IDE. It's a code editor - that's it. > >It's really too bad that more IDEs are not available for Linux. >

Re: An IDE for C and JAVA --> Simplicity for Java

1998-12-22 Thread Carl H. Sayres
> I believe there is a family of development tools referred to as RAD . > Apparently VisualAge and Visual Cafe are members of this family. > A RAD gives you the tool to drag and drop GUI elements such as labels > buttons. I would love to see a RAD for linux. I invite you to download and tryout Si

Re: An IDE for C and JAVA

1998-12-22 Thread Mehrdad Jahansoozi
I believe there is a family of development tools referred to as RAD . Apparently VisualAge and Visual Cafe are members of this family. A RAD gives you the tool to drag and drop GUI elements such as labels buttons. I would love to see a RAD for linux. Other than Visual Cafe the rest of the IDE and

Re: An IDE for C and JAVA

1998-12-22 Thread David Lucas
Have not looked at it in a while, but Source Navigator from Cygnus folks might be worth looking at. Check out www.cygnus.com for more info. Later, Dave -- ++ | David Lucas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Lucas So

Re: An IDE for C and JAVA

1998-12-22 Thread John Goerzen
On Tue, Dec 22, 1998 at 11:11:08AM +0100, Artur Biesiadowski wrote: > John Goerzen wrote: > > I personally do not use highly integrated IDEs and it seems that you do > not also, but do not think that Xemacs is an IDE - it is just very smart > editor. What it lacks ? > > Graphical composition of

Re: An IDE for C and JAVA

1998-12-22 Thread Christopher Hinds
pport JDK1.2 with regard > to using the latest swing components? > > Steve Delahunty > Mullion Communications > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -Original Message- > From: Kirk Hutchinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, December 21, 1998 10:06 PM > To: linux j

Re: An IDE for C and JAVA

1998-12-22 Thread John Summerfield
On Mon, 21 Dec 1998, John Goerzen wrote: > On Mon, Dec 21, 1998 at 10:06:10PM -0500, Kirk Hutchinson wrote: > > > First of all, XEmacs is not an IDE. It's a code editor - that's it. > > You obviously know little about it then. It has built-in and (virtually) > seamless interfaces to compilers

RE: An IDE for C and JAVA

1998-12-22 Thread Steve Delahunty
Steve Delahunty Mullion Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Kirk Hutchinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 21, 1998 10:06 PM To: linux java Subject: Re: An IDE for C and JAVA First of all, XEmacs is not an IDE. It's a code editor - that's it.

Re: An IDE for C and JAVA

1998-12-22 Thread Artur Biesiadowski
John Goerzen wrote: > > It's really too bad that more IDEs are not available for Linux. > > What do these give you that XEmacs doesn't? I personally do not use highly integrated IDEs and it seems that you do not also, but do not think that Xemacs is an IDE - it is just very smart editor. What i

Re: An IDE for C and JAVA

1998-12-22 Thread Jason Dillon
On 22-Dec-98 Kirk Hutchinson wrote: > First of all, XEmacs is not an IDE. It's a code editor - that's it. True Emacs (XEmacs) was not necessarily designed to be an IDE, though it can be used as one... which means that it is and IDE (and a whole lot more). Some people can handle using Emacs as a

Re: An IDE for C and JAVA

1998-12-22 Thread John Goerzen
On Mon, Dec 21, 1998 at 10:06:10PM -0500, Kirk Hutchinson wrote: > First of all, XEmacs is not an IDE. It's a code editor - that's it. You obviously know little about it then. It has built-in and (virtually) seamless interfaces to compilers, debuggers, and interpreters. > It's really too bad

Re: An IDE for C and JAVA

1998-12-21 Thread Kirk Hutchinson
i wrote: > > Pierre Bizzotto wrote: > > > > Hi, I need an IDE for C and Java, if it's possible for XWINDOWS or KDE. > > Use Emacs and JDE, it's best in the long run. -- Kirk Hutchinson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Electrical & Software Engineer, Cabletron Systems What good is unused science?

Re: An IDE for C and JAVA

1998-12-21 Thread Ugo Cei
Pierre Bizzotto wrote: > > Hi, I need an IDE for C and Java, if it's possible for XWINDOWS or KDE. Use Emacs and JDE, it's best in the long run. > I'have another problem, I've the italian Keyboard and on my notebook there > is'nt the { and }. How I can re

Re: An IDE for C and JAVA

1998-12-21 Thread R. Paul Warriner
I use Xemacs for a Java IDE. S.u.S.e. has the Java Workshop 2.0 for $109 US. Can't help with the keyboard. :( Pierre Bizzotto wrote: > > Hi, I need an IDE for C and Java, if it's possible for XWINDOWS or KDE. > > I'have another problem, I've the italian K

Re: An IDE for C and JAVA

1998-12-21 Thread Tobias Gierke
On Mon, 21 Dec 1998, Pierre Bizzotto wrote: >Hi, I need an IDE for C and Java, if it's possible for XWINDOWS or KDE. > >I'have another problem, I've the italian Keyboard and on my notebook there >is'nt the { and }. How I can resolve this problem changing aothe ke

Re: An IDE for C and JAVA

1998-12-21 Thread Juergen Sonnauer
. Dezember 1998 10:36 An: linux java Betreff:An IDE for C and JAVA Hi, I need an IDE for C and Java, if it's possible for XWINDOWS or KDE. I'have another problem, I've the italian Keyboard and on my notebook there is'nt the { and }. How I can resolve this proble

An IDE for C and JAVA

1998-12-21 Thread Pierre Bizzotto
Hi, I need an IDE for C and Java, if it's possible for XWINDOWS or KDE. I'have another problem, I've the italian Keyboard and on my notebook there is'nt the { and }. How I can resolve this problem changing aothe key? Thanks. bye and Merry Xmas.