[The Java Posse] Re: Congrats to Jet Brains!

2008-11-06 Thread Alexander Snaps
Looks much better using the OS X theme on Mac now too... Alex On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:04 PM, Mark Derricutt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It also looks quite sexy with the Nimbus look and feel: > > http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3204/3004630082_a4db63c626_o.png > > Mark > > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 a

[The Java Posse] Re: Congrats to Jet Brains!

2008-11-06 Thread Mark Derricutt
It also looks quite sexy with the Nimbus look and feel: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3204/3004630082_a4db63c626_o.png Mark On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Patrick Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yeah, so far I'm really pleased with it--the EAPs have really come > around in the last cou

[The Java Posse] Re: Congrats to Jet Brains!

2008-11-06 Thread Patrick Wright
Yeah, so far I'm really pleased with it--the EAPs have really come around in the last couple of weeks. It's a pleasure to use. IDEA 7 is a bad memory, rapidly fading :). Patrick --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Goog

[The Java Posse] Re: #215 Traits

2008-11-06 Thread Jess Holle
There are big limitations imposed by dynamic proxies here as I see it. Dynamic proxies are beautiful interceptors for one or more interfaces, but they themselves are of a synthetic class. If you have a class A and you want to mix-in/apply an interface to it, dynamic proxies could help wire a d

[The Java Posse] Re: java rebel and glassfish v3

2008-11-06 Thread jluehe
On Nov 6, 6:17 am, Jevgeni Kabanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > AFAIK it's the same hot-deploy as supported by Jetty, Tomcat, Weblogic > and a bunch of others. They all support "session-retention" as well. > GlassFish just caught up with the others. How would you do this in Tomcat? Are you sure y

[The Java Posse] Re: java rebel and glassfish v3

2008-11-06 Thread jluehe
On Nov 6, 6:17 am, Jevgeni Kabanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > AFAIK it's the same hot-deploy as supported by Jetty, Tomcat, Weblogic > and a bunch of others. They all support "session-retention" as well. > GlassFish just caught up with the others. Are you sure? For example, how do you configure

[The Java Posse] Re: NetBeans... nice!

2008-11-06 Thread Mark Fortner
I think the Eclipse keyboard mapping for NetBeans really makes the transition easier to make. I find myself recommending NetBeans more and more. And everyone I show it to seems to like it. The NetBeans.tv demos really help spread the word as well. Mark On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 5:38 AM, Marcelo F

[The Java Posse] Congrats to Jet Brains!

2008-11-06 Thread Mark Derricutt
Congrats to all the fine folk at Jet Brains on the birth of their new baby IDEA 8 - I think its time to go play some snooker and smoke some stoges to celebrate. Mark -- "It is easier to optimize correct code than to correct optimized code." -- Bill Harlan --~--~-~--~~~--

[The Java Posse] Re: #215 Traits

2008-11-06 Thread John Nilsson
I haven't done any benchmarking. But I can't imagine the overhead being "terrible", mesurable: yes, but I hear the reflection stuff in Java is rather quick. If performance is a problem you could probably use some runtime class generation instead. But I imagine it would take a little more effort to

[The Java Posse] Re: NetBeans... nice!

2008-11-06 Thread Josh Juneau
Indeed, Netbeans is nice and 6.5 is great... Josh Juneau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com http://www.gathereventplanning.com Twitter ID: javajuneau On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 9:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > All the mentionings here and there about NetBea

[The Java Posse] Re: #215 Traits

2008-11-06 Thread Casper Bang
But aren't dynproxies terribly slow? I thought that's why people dabble on invokedynamic. /Casper On Nov 6, 8:16 pm, "John Nilsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It shouldn't be to hard to implement traits as a library in current Java > using a dynamic proxy. > Should make for an interesting proj

[The Java Posse] Re: #215 Traits

2008-11-06 Thread John Nilsson
It shouldn't be to hard to implement traits as a library in current Java using a dynamic proxy. Should make for an interesting project. BR, Jphn On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Mark Derricutt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please please please bring on traits! I'm somewhat on the fence of rather

[The Java Posse] Re: episode 215: reflection and generics

2008-11-06 Thread Casper Bang
It's actually all described in chapter 7.5 of "Java Generics and Collections" which the Posse have endorsed in the past. Basically you can introspect it (look for ParameterizedType) and it can help you in a few instances, but in my humble experiences those solutions often turns ugly and fragile (p

[The Java Posse] Re: java rebel and glassfish v3

2008-11-06 Thread Paul Rooney
Sorry I don't think what level of "save and refresh" is supported by Glassfish V3. >From the podcast I got the impression that V3 now has similar abilities to JavaRebel, in that I can add/delete/update method signatures (compile on save) and see them immediately on my app server without restartin

[The Java Posse] Re: java rebel and glassfish v3

2008-11-06 Thread Jevgeni Kabanov
AFAIK it's the same hot-deploy as supported by Jetty, Tomcat, Weblogic and a bunch of others. They all support "session-retention" as well. GlassFish just caught up with the others. Jevgeni Kabanov On Nov 5, 9:54 am, "Bjorn Monnens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, > > On one of the last episod

[The Java Posse] Re: POI stands for....

2008-11-06 Thread Alexey Zinger
Jeez, I was wondering what was the deal with their choice of acronyms.  While funny now, it made it rather difficult to grok their API quickly. Alexey 2001 Honda CBR600F4i (CCS) 1992 Kawasaki EX500 http://azinger.blogspot.com http://bsheet.sourceforge.net http://wcollage.sourceforge.net --- On

[The Java Posse] Re: POI stands for....

2008-11-06 Thread Viktor Klang
It's a café for homeless people in the city where I live... On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Vince O'Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > More importantly, we need to know what RIA stands for. > > On Nov 6, 1:19 pm, Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > // shows my age > > > > ...allegedly POI ori

[The Java Posse] Re: POI stands for....

2008-11-06 Thread Vince O'Sullivan
More importantly, we need to know what RIA stands for. On Nov 6, 1:19 pm, Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > // shows my age > > ...allegedly POI originally stood for "Poor Obfuscation > Implementation", and no doubt reflects early frustration with the > arbitrarily silly Microsoft file formats. >

[The Java Posse] HTML browser in the JRE -odd, but think about the possibilities....

2008-11-06 Thread Pete F
What if... -Adobe and Microsoft have missed a trick, by jumping directly to an extensible rich client *that is not html*. Shouldn't someone, with a platform capable of doing so (ie Java) do an HTML based rich client?? Why not do for real, what GWT only pretends to do. -and hasn't a simil

[The Java Posse] Re: episode 215: reflection and generics

2008-11-06 Thread Jess Holle
Viktor Klang wrote: > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Jess Holle <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > Viktor Klang wrote: >> Actually guys, referential equality is kind of retarded, so the >> >> Map.class == Map.class >> >> example is bad. >> >> However,

[The Java Posse] Re: NetBeans... nice!

2008-11-06 Thread Marcelo Fukushima
i cant speak for everyone, but once you're used to an IDE, its hard to change at least it is for me anyway On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 9:16 AM, kibitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm tellin ya, NetBeans is the best! (best free Java IDE). I CANNOT > understand why people like Eclipse. > > > --

[The Java Posse] Re: POI stands for....

2008-11-06 Thread Marcelo Fukushima
some of the classes are also bitter-named: HSSF stands for Horrible SpreadSheet Format On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > // shows my age > > ...allegedly POI originally stood for "Poor Obfuscation > Implementation", and no doubt reflects early frustration with t

[The Java Posse] POI stands for....

2008-11-06 Thread Rick
// shows my age ...allegedly POI originally stood for "Poor Obfuscation Implementation", and no doubt reflects early frustration with the arbitrarily silly Microsoft file formats. But I think at some point relations improved with Microsoft, and so in order to play nice, the original unofficial m

[The Java Posse] Re: Influential Java programmers should learn C#

2008-11-06 Thread Pete F
tee hee infoq has a new video of Microsoft's Mads Torgersen, at *of all places* the JVM language summit, quipping *of all things* about them "not having c# running on the jvm yet" for people allergic to microsoft, the video is a good place to see what their take on java next is, without leaving

[The Java Posse] Re: java rebel and glassfish v3

2008-11-06 Thread Viktor Klang
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Jess Holle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Terracotta does not cover all platforms :-( > Yeah, I had grave problems getting Lift to work with Terracotta, so after lots of time wasted on experimenting on getting it to work, I put that integration project on the scraph

[The Java Posse] Re: episode 215: reflection and generics

2008-11-06 Thread Viktor Klang
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Jess Holle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Viktor Klang wrote: > > Actually guys, referential equality is kind of retarded, so the > > Map.class == Map.class > > example is bad. > > However, > > Map.class.equals(Map.class) SHOULD return false > > No, it MUST not -- el

[The Java Posse] Re: java rebel and glassfish v3

2008-11-06 Thread Jess Holle
Terracotta does not cover all platforms :-( Viktor Klang wrote: > It's rather easy to run Terracotta Session replication and have this > feature for "free". > > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Alexis Moussine-Pouchkine @gmail.com > wrote: > > > Active ses

[The Java Posse] Re: episode 215: reflection and generics

2008-11-06 Thread Jess Holle
Viktor Klang wrote: > Actually guys, referential equality is kind of retarded, so the > > Map.class == Map.class > > example is bad. > > However, > > Map.class.equals(Map.class) SHOULD return false No, it MUST not -- else loads of things break. Further == and .equals MUST give the same results for

[The Java Posse] Re: Chapters for the Javaposse podcast

2008-11-06 Thread Viktor Tamás
Hi, it was me who started to write pieces of time information for the podcasts and this is the old topic: http://groups.google.hu/group/javaposse/browse_thread/thread/c4489f88ffc5e6ad Unfortunately I became very busy in the latest months so nowadays I just read the shownotes when a new episode co

[The Java Posse] Re: NetBeans... nice!

2008-11-06 Thread kibitzer
I'm tellin ya, NetBeans is the best! (best free Java IDE). I CANNOT understand why people like Eclipse. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to jav

[The Java Posse] Re: java rebel and glassfish v3

2008-11-06 Thread Alexis Moussine-Pouchkine
... and GlassFish now runs great with Terracotta but I think the point here is to have it: - for even cheaper than free, right in the app server, no extra piece required. - tailored to shorten the traditional development cycle for developers (not a production feature). -Alexis On Thu, Nov 6, 2008

[The Java Posse] Re: java rebel and glassfish v3

2008-11-06 Thread Viktor Klang
I already, like John, have it for free with the same stuff that John uses. :) On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Alexis Moussine-Pouchkine wrote: > > ... and GlassFish now runs great with Terracotta but I think the point > here is to have it: > - for even cheaper than free, right in the app server

[The Java Posse] Re: java rebel and glassfish v3

2008-11-06 Thread Viktor Klang
It's rather easy to run Terracotta Session replication and have this feature for "free". On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Alexis Moussine-Pouchkine wrote: > > Active sessions are serialized in memory while redeploying and > re-injected with the classloader of the new application. Of course > tha

[The Java Posse] Re: java rebel and glassfish v3

2008-11-06 Thread Alexis Moussine-Pouchkine
Active sessions are serialized in memory while redeploying and re-injected with the classloader of the new application. Of course that requires a minimum compatibility in the session data (some changes are supported). Jan Luehe will covers this today at 8:20am (PST). See http://tinyurl.com/6rttv9

[The Java Posse] Re: Any real Scala products and NetBeans 6.5 RC2 and Scala Support

2008-11-06 Thread Adam G.
Hey Viktor and Mike, thanks for the answers. A webframework is indeed very important :) I was not aware that it is already quite spreaded. I have also seen already some examples of Scala and Swing, but at the first glance it looked quite strange to me. I think I will need to spend more time with

[The Java Posse] Re: episode 215: reflection and generics

2008-11-06 Thread Viktor Klang
Actually guys, referential equality is kind of retarded, so the Map.class == Map.class example is bad. However, Map.class.equals(Map.class) SHOULD return false On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:38 AM, Jess Holle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter Becker wrote: > > I think you probably want something