DocBook is good for real books where you want to/have to produce a
PDF, thanks to the DocBook-XSL stylesheet package. How do you produce
PDF from HTML5 source?
DocBook is good if you can live within its schema. I store all kinds
of metadata in its attributes and haven't felt limited yet. There is
DocBook is good for real books where you want to/have to produce a
PDF, thanks to the DocBook-XSL stylesheet package. How do you produce
PDF from HTML5 source?
DocBook is good if you can live within its schema. I store all kinds
of metadata in its attributes and haven't felt limited yet. There is
On Sep 28, 7:39 pm, Richard Vowles richard.vow...@gmail.com wrote:
This entire interview was a cop-out by Alex and Joe. Their argument
boiled down to look, Sun open sourced Java and now we don't have to
do anything.
In no way did Joe or I state or imply that Sun has open sourced
Java. Sun has
On Sep 29, 1:20 pm, Richard Vowles richard.vow...@gmail.com wrote:
I am not asking for anything else in JDK7. What I would like is an
attitude that doesn't say its too hard and instead says we want to
see X, Y and Z in the language, now open source community, go out
there and implement them
On Sep 17, 5:51 pm, Reinier Zwitserloot reini...@gmail.com wrote:
Alex, 'source' simply acknowledges that java (the language) syntax and
java (the runtime library) dependencies are utterly unrelated things.
Incorrect. Language features often rely on library features. See
Replying to my own post:
On Sep 18, 10:05 am, Alex Buckley alex.buck...@sun.com wrote:
This discussion precisely demonstrates my earlier point. Some people
don't merely suggest a language feature; they demand a detailed
interactive discussion with Sun on the feature.
It occurs to me
Stuart,
On Sep 17, 11:22 am, Stuart McCulloch mccu...@gmail.com wrote:
This is probably pouring oil on the fire, but it looks like hacking a
prototype even lets you circumvent the JCP ;)
http://altair.cs.oswego.edu/pipermail/jsr294-modularity-observer/2009...
Even with a smiley, one should
On Sep 17, 5:38 am, Jess Holle je...@ptc.com wrote:
Joe Darcy recently cited discussion threads in which the source
statement was supposedly found to be problematic.
I perused them -- and didn't see any substantive problems uncovered in
the course of those discussions.
Personally I think a
I'm slightly embarrassed to admit I'm a fan of
http://bugs.sun.com/view_bug.do?bug_id=6534270
On Aug 15, 5:56 am, Jeff Grigg jeffgr...@charter.net wrote:
I like the beauty and simplicity of completely empty catch blocks. ;- OK,
some developers, to comply with corporate documentation
than whining about it. No matter how understandable your
situation, there are lots of folks annoyed at java's glacial
improvement pace - but I'm sure you're already aware of that.
On Aug 15, 12:40 am, Alex Buckley alex.buck...@sun.com wrote:
On Aug 14, 2:20 pm, Reinier Zwitserloot reini
to build a prototype and provide a
(mostly) convenient framework for others to experiment as well.
On Aug 13, 11:53 pm, Alex Buckley alex.buck...@sun.com wrote:
On Aug 13, 2:03 pm, Reinier Zwitserloot reini...@gmail.com wrote:
About project lombok, in reply to:
On Aug 13, 7:50 pm, Charles
On Aug 14, 2:20 pm, Reinier Zwitserloot reini...@gmail.com wrote:
The sheer amount of 'coin isn't making changes fast enough' sentiment
here and in the rest of the java community is -staggering-. But, apart
from that, if lombok gets some traction and adds a bunch of useful
features, but this
On Aug 13, 2:03 pm, Reinier Zwitserloot reini...@gmail.com wrote:
About project lombok, in reply to:
On Aug 13, 7:50 pm, Charles Oliver Nutter head...@gmail.com wrote:
Project Lombok seems to be mostly a set of annotations for common Java
patterns, rather than a new language. What I'd
On Aug 12, 1:43 am, Charles Oliver Nutter head...@gmail.com wrote:
I tell you right now, if a language with static-typing, roughly Java-
like structure, and an appropriate set of syntactic enhancements
(local type inference, real closures or sugared-up anon classes,
additional literals, ...)
The Java language is closely related to the Java VM. The language has
extra constraints for the programmer's safety (e.g. add checked
exceptions, hide 'goto'), but the basic imperative, pseudo-OO
computational model is shared. For example, compare the invocation
modes in JLS 15.12.3/4 with the
On Jul 26, 12:07 pm, Frederic Simon frederic.si...@gmail.com wrote:
- C++ is an OO layer on top of C (that will disappear slowly as an historical
aberration)
C++ pretends to provide an object-oriented data model, C++
programmers pretend to respect it, and everyone pretends that the code
will
On May 20, 3:31 am, Reinier Zwitserloot reini...@gmail.com wrote:
*) Is anyone else bothered by the fact that 'requires external
library' is such an annoyance? That's a rather serious detriment to
code reuse and the whole schtick where java would rather defer to a
library that which other
On Mar 28, 4:53 am, Martin OConnor marti...@gmail.com wrote:
In my view, there are two likely aspects to jigsaw not having a JSR.
Either Sun view it purely as an implementation detail, or more likely
it is the following:
@Martin: We see it as an implementation detail.
Today everyone is
On Feb 25, 7:59 pm, Reinier Zwitserloot reini...@gmail.com wrote:
Alex, you haven't explained how we can migrate list safely, then.
If lots and lots of legacy code cannot accept new-style lists, then
trying to integrate with the older code is going to be a very
frustrating exercise.
In
.
On Feb 26, 8:44 pm, Alex Buckley alex.buck...@sun.com wrote:
On Feb 25, 7:59 pm, Reinier Zwitserloot reini...@gmail.com wrote:
Alex, you haven't explained how we can migrate list safely, then.
If lots and lots of legacy code cannot accept new-style lists, then
trying to integrate
On Feb 25, 8:54 am, Reinier Zwitserloot reini...@gmail.com wrote:
Okay, so, now, you're saying that the default for just about every
library out there is going to be java[7,8), whereas before you said
that updating list is no problem, because most modules will say they
want the list from
On Feb 24, 12:26 pm, Reinier Zwitserloot reini...@gmail.com wrote:
Right, so you agree that there are situations where a module must ask
specifically for List[1..7] and cannot just go for [1..*]. I contend
that these situations are sufficiently common that there's going to be
a LOT of
On Feb 21, 8:25 am, Reinier Zwitserloot reini...@gmail.com wrote:
Given the sheer amount of work you'd have to do re-engineering the
java API, breaking backwards compatibility, or adding extension
methods, is really the only way.
Happily, the existence of a versioned module system in JDK7
On Feb 21, 8:25 am, Reinier Zwitserloot reini...@gmail.com wrote:
So, given that closures are likely coming in java8, wouldn't it be
nice to add the relatively low-impact extension method system right
now?
What evidence do you have for your statement about closures? Moreover,
where can I read
of the current closure situation will
diminish somewhat.
In other words, I have hope, that's all.
On Feb 23, 11:58 pm, Alex Buckley alex.buck...@sun.com wrote:
On Feb 21, 8:25 am, Reinier Zwitserloot reini...@gmail.com wrote:
So, given that closures are likely coming in java8, wouldn't
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