Re: [JAWS-Users] Recurring problem: JAWS not speaking at logon screen after Windows 10 updates
This is an issue following the recent Fall Creators Update to Windows 10. It is being patched in Jaws 18 and 2018. The issue only usually occurs when rebooting. When you next have updates try going to the desktop, press Alt + F4 and select shutdown. The updates should still install while the machine shuts down. Turn the PC back on and the updates will complete and hopefully you should still have speech at the logon screen. Bob -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Reed Sent: 06 December 2017 06:20 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Recurring problem: JAWS not speaking at logon screen after Windows 10 updates Hi Annette, You're not losing your mind. The logon process is really problematic with Windows 10 and JAWS. I've had issues with it right from my first Windows 10 and all releases of JAWS 18 and now 2018. I mentioned it to an FS techie when I called about another problem and his response was, "yah, It's really flakey". Reed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of amca...@verizon.net Sent: December 5, 2017 2:16 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Recurring problem: JAWS not speaking at logon screen after Windows 10 updates I am having intermittent issues with logging in on 2 different Windows10 machines and I am running 2018. I have not called for technical assistance, because there seems to be many different scenarios, or else I am losing my mind. Annette -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Christine Murphy Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 12:12 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Recurring problem: JAWS not speaking at logon screen after Windows 10 updates Hello Everyone, I'm using Windows 10 with JAWS version 17.0.2729. I'm seeking input regarding a recurring problem that I'm experiencing when Windows 10 updates have taken place. Whenever there has been a Windows 10 update, JAWS does not speak at the logon screen. I cannot tell when the logon screen appears and when it is ready to receive my Windows password. I cannot tell if anything is happening if I do enter something and try to TAB to the OK button. Needless to say, this makes logging on to my PC impossible at these times without sighted assistance. My husband who is sighted has helped me deal wit this. We have called the Microsoft Accessible Help line. They said that somehow JAWS gets corrupted when there are Windows 10 updates, and that we should uninstall and reinstall JAWS making sure to set JAWS to speak at the logon screen. Doing those things solves the problem until another Windows 10 update occurs. There was a Windows 10 update recently. We will need to go through the process of uninstalling and reinstalling JAWS for the thirdtime. I'm wondering if others among you have experienced these difficulties. I'm also wondering if there is a newer version of JAWS that does not have this problem with Windows 10 updates. I've read of so many problems with JAWS 2018 that I'm hesitant to upgrade to it at this point. I don't know how someone without sighted assistance would deal with the frustrations that Ihave described. Repeatedly waiting around for sighted help to fix a recurring problem such as this shouldn't be acceptable. As a comment, I want to also say that I'm finding the discussion of screen readers and web browsers interesting. I admit that having to become skilled using different screen readers and web browsers, and to keep assessing which screen reader/web browser combination works with various websites is very discouraging. I use Internet Explorer. Even the NY Times is crashing more now than it did previously. I usually get done what I need to but I admit that I'm definitely less technically adept than many of you. Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer. Christine Murphy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Recurring problem: JAWS not speaking at logon screen after Windows 10 updates
Hi Annette, You're not losing your mind. The logon process is really problematic with Windows 10 and JAWS. I've had issues with it right from my first Windows 10 and all releases of JAWS 18 and now 2018. I mentioned it to an FS techie when I called about another problem and his response was, "yah, It's really flakey". Reed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of amca...@verizon.net Sent: December 5, 2017 2:16 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Recurring problem: JAWS not speaking at logon screen after Windows 10 updates I am having intermittent issues with logging in on 2 different Windows10 machines and I am running 2018. I have not called for technical assistance, because there seems to be many different scenarios, or else I am losing my mind. Annette -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Christine Murphy Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 12:12 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Recurring problem: JAWS not speaking at logon screen after Windows 10 updates Hello Everyone, I'm using Windows 10 with JAWS version 17.0.2729. I'm seeking input regarding a recurring problem that I'm experiencing when Windows 10 updates have taken place. Whenever there has been a Windows 10 update, JAWS does not speak at the logon screen. I cannot tell when the logon screen appears and when it is ready to receive my Windows password. I cannot tell if anything is happening if I do enter something and try to TAB to the OK button. Needless to say, this makes logging on to my PC impossible at these times without sighted assistance. My husband who is sighted has helped me deal wit this. We have called the Microsoft Accessible Help line. They said that somehow JAWS gets corrupted when there are Windows 10 updates, and that we should uninstall and reinstall JAWS making sure to set JAWS to speak at the logon screen. Doing those things solves the problem until another Windows 10 update occurs. There was a Windows 10 update recently. We will need to go through the process of uninstalling and reinstalling JAWS for the thirdtime. I'm wondering if others among you have experienced these difficulties. I'm also wondering if there is a newer version of JAWS that does not have this problem with Windows 10 updates. I've read of so many problems with JAWS 2018 that I'm hesitant to upgrade to it at this point. I don't know how someone without sighted assistance would deal with the frustrations that Ihave described. Repeatedly waiting around for sighted help to fix a recurring problem such as this shouldn't be acceptable. As a comment, I want to also say that I'm finding the discussion of screen readers and web browsers interesting. I admit that having to become skilled using different screen readers and web browsers, and to keep assessing which screen reader/web browser combination works with various websites is very discouraging. I use Internet Explorer. Even the NY Times is crashing more now than it did previously. I usually get done what I need to but I admit that I'm definitely less technically adept than many of you. Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer. Christine Murphy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Recurring problem: JAWS not speaking at logon screen after Windows 10 updates
I don't have an answer for you regarding the problem, other than to echo someone else's comment that a recent JAWS 18 update supposedly addresses this issue. I can offer a work-around, however. You can configure Windows 10 to automatically log into a specified default user account. This bypasses the login screen and JAWS comes up talking. I don't recall the steps to accomplish this, but if it's an alternative you want to consider, Let us know and I'm sure someone can find the info for you. Jeff On 12/5/2017 2:16 PM, amca...@verizon.net wrote: I am having intermittent issues with logging in on 2 different Windows10 machines and I am running 2018. I have not called for technical assistance, because there seems to be many different scenarios, or else I am losing my mind. Annette -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Christine Murphy Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 12:12 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Recurring problem: JAWS not speaking at logon screen after Windows 10 updates Hello Everyone, I'm using Windows 10 with JAWS version 17.0.2729. I'm seeking input regarding a recurring problem that I'm experiencing when Windows 10 updates have taken place. Whenever there has been a Windows 10 update, JAWS does not speak at the logon screen. I cannot tell when the logon screen appears and when it is ready to receive my Windows password. I cannot tell if anything is happening if I do enter something and try to TAB to the OK button. Needless to say, this makes logging on to my PC impossible at these times without sighted assistance. My husband who is sighted has helped me deal wit this. We have called the Microsoft Accessible Help line. They said that somehow JAWS gets corrupted when there are Windows 10 updates, and that we should uninstall and reinstall JAWS making sure to set JAWS to speak at the logon screen. Doing those things solves the problem until another Windows 10 update occurs. There was a Windows 10 update recently. We will need to go through the process of uninstalling and reinstalling JAWS for the thirdtime. I'm wondering if others among you have experienced these difficulties. I'm also wondering if there is a newer version of JAWS that does not have this problem with Windows 10 updates. I've read of so many problems with JAWS 2018 that I'm hesitant to upgrade to it at this point. I don't know how someone without sighted assistance would deal with the frustrations that Ihave described. Repeatedly waiting around for sighted help to fix a recurring problem such as this shouldn't be acceptable. As a comment, I want to also say that I'm finding the discussion of screen readers and web browsers interesting. I admit that having to become skilled using different screen readers and web browsers, and to keep assessing which screen reader/web browser combination works with various websites is very discouraging. I use Internet Explorer. Even the NY Times is crashing more now than it did previously. I usually get done what I need to but I admit that I'm definitely less technically adept than many of you. Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer. Christine Murphy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New J18.0.4352 Update Direct Download Links + What's New
I, also, am grateful for the link. It does prevent my email from crashing when I put in an address. Apparently, I no longer have to go into safe mode. However, it is not doing the auto complete for me. Miriam -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 9:26 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New J18.0.4352 Update Direct Download Links + What's New Hello, everyone. First, thanks to Mike for posting the links to the latest Jaws update. To be honest, though, I'm a bit disappointed that the well-known Outlook crashing issue hasn't been addressed this time around. Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 7:23 PM To: Jaws-Users ListSubject: [JAWS-Users] New J18.0.4352 Update Direct Download Links + What's New Hi All, Here is the latest update released today for Jaws 18 download links + what's new in this release. 32 Bit: http://jaws18.vfo.digital/4532TUP779/J18.0.4532enu-x86.exe 64 Bit: http://jaws18.vfo.digital/4532TUP779/J18.0.4532enu-x64.exe Enhancements in JAWS 18.0.4532 (December 2017) The following is a list of improvements made between the JAWS 18 October 2017 release and the December 2017 update. list of 7 items . Addressed an issue where JAWS was not announcing auto-complete information when typing email addresses in the Windows 10 Fall Creators' update of Outlook 365. . When JAWS is configured to start at the login screen and after logon, addressed an issue in the Windows 10 Fall Creators' update where JAWS was not working as expected if the "Use my sign in info to automatically finish setting up my device after update or restart" option is enabled. . Resolved an issue where JAWS was blocking the Windows shut down in the Fall Creators' update. . Added a new Eco Braille display driver provided by ONCE in Spain. . Resolved an issue where both JAWS and Skype would stop working if the Call Quality Feedback dialog box was displayed after ending a call. . Updated the Command Search (INSERT+SPACEBAR, J) so Fusion users can search for "panning" to locate the CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+ARROW keys to scroll the magnified view. . Addressed an issue with a couple Research It lookup sources in the French version of JAWS not displaying results as expected. list end Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New J18.0.4352 Update Direct Download Links + What's New
Hello, everyone. First, thanks to Mike for posting the links to the latest Jaws update. To be honest, though, I'm a bit disappointed that the well-known Outlook crashing issue hasn't been addressed this time around. Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 7:23 PM To: Jaws-Users ListSubject: [JAWS-Users] New J18.0.4352 Update Direct Download Links + What's New Hi All, Here is the latest update released today for Jaws 18 download links + what's new in this release. 32 Bit: http://jaws18.vfo.digital/4532TUP779/J18.0.4532enu-x86.exe 64 Bit: http://jaws18.vfo.digital/4532TUP779/J18.0.4532enu-x64.exe Enhancements in JAWS 18.0.4532 (December 2017) The following is a list of improvements made between the JAWS 18 October 2017 release and the December 2017 update. list of 7 items . Addressed an issue where JAWS was not announcing auto-complete information when typing email addresses in the Windows 10 Fall Creators' update of Outlook 365. . When JAWS is configured to start at the login screen and after logon, addressed an issue in the Windows 10 Fall Creators' update where JAWS was not working as expected if the "Use my sign in info to automatically finish setting up my device after update or restart" option is enabled. . Resolved an issue where JAWS was blocking the Windows shut down in the Fall Creators' update. . Added a new Eco Braille display driver provided by ONCE in Spain. . Resolved an issue where both JAWS and Skype would stop working if the Call Quality Feedback dialog box was displayed after ending a call. . Updated the Command Search (INSERT+SPACEBAR, J) so Fusion users can search for "panning" to locate the CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+ARROW keys to scroll the magnified view. . Addressed an issue with a couple Research It lookup sources in the French version of JAWS not displaying results as expected. list end Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] New J18.0.4352 Update Direct Download Links + What's New
Hi All, Here is the latest update released today for Jaws 18 download links + what's new in this release. 32 Bit: http://jaws18.vfo.digital/4532TUP779/J18.0.4532enu-x86.exe 64 Bit: http://jaws18.vfo.digital/4532TUP779/J18.0.4532enu-x64.exe Enhancements in JAWS 18.0.4532 (December 2017) The following is a list of improvements made between the JAWS 18 October 2017 release and the December 2017 update. list of 7 items . Addressed an issue where JAWS was not announcing auto-complete information when typing email addresses in the Windows 10 Fall Creators' update of Outlook 365. . When JAWS is configured to start at the login screen and after logon, addressed an issue in the Windows 10 Fall Creators' update where JAWS was not working as expected if the "Use my sign in info to automatically finish setting up my device after update or restart" option is enabled. . Resolved an issue where JAWS was blocking the Windows shut down in the Fall Creators' update. . Added a new Eco Braille display driver provided by ONCE in Spain. . Resolved an issue where both JAWS and Skype would stop working if the Call Quality Feedback dialog box was displayed after ending a call. . Updated the Command Search (INSERT+SPACEBAR, J) so Fusion users can search for "panning" to locate the CAPS LOCK+SHIFT+ARROW keys to scroll the magnified view. . Addressed an issue with a couple Research It lookup sources in the French version of JAWS not displaying results as expected. list end Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Recurring problem: JAWS not speaking at logon screen after Windows 10 updates
I am having intermittent issues with logging in on 2 different Windows10 machines and I am running 2018. I have not called for technical assistance, because there seems to be many different scenarios, or else I am losing my mind. Annette -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Christine Murphy Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 12:12 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Recurring problem: JAWS not speaking at logon screen after Windows 10 updates Hello Everyone, I'm using Windows 10 with JAWS version 17.0.2729. I'm seeking input regarding a recurring problem that I'm experiencing when Windows 10 updates have taken place. Whenever there has been a Windows 10 update, JAWS does not speak at the logon screen. I cannot tell when the logon screen appears and when it is ready to receive my Windows password. I cannot tell if anything is happening if I do enter something and try to TAB to the OK button. Needless to say, this makes logging on to my PC impossible at these times without sighted assistance. My husband who is sighted has helped me deal wit this. We have called the Microsoft Accessible Help line. They said that somehow JAWS gets corrupted when there are Windows 10 updates, and that we should uninstall and reinstall JAWS making sure to set JAWS to speak at the logon screen. Doing those things solves the problem until another Windows 10 update occurs. There was a Windows 10 update recently. We will need to go through the process of uninstalling and reinstalling JAWS for the thirdtime. I'm wondering if others among you have experienced these difficulties. I'm also wondering if there is a newer version of JAWS that does not have this problem with Windows 10 updates. I've read of so many problems with JAWS 2018 that I'm hesitant to upgrade to it at this point. I don't know how someone without sighted assistance would deal with the frustrations that Ihave described. Repeatedly waiting around for sighted help to fix a recurring problem such as this shouldn't be acceptable. As a comment, I want to also say that I'm finding the discussion of screen readers and web browsers interesting. I admit that having to become skilled using different screen readers and web browsers, and to keep assessing which screen reader/web browser combination works with various websites is very discouraging. I use Internet Explorer. Even the NY Times is crashing more now than it did previously. I usually get done what I need to but I admit that I'm definitely less technically adept than many of you. Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer. Christine Murphy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Recurring problem: JAWS not speaking at logon screen after Windows 10 updates
Hi, There was an update to JAWS 18.0 (not 2018) that came out today that should fix this problem. I'll also forward this question to a more Windows 10 oriented list to see if others can post their replies here. Cheers, Joseph -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Christine Murphy Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 9:12 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Recurring problem: JAWS not speaking at logon screen after Windows 10 updates Hello Everyone, I'm using Windows 10 with JAWS version 17.0.2729. I'm seeking input regarding a recurring problem that I'm experiencing when Windows 10 updates have taken place. Whenever there has been a Windows 10 update, JAWS does not speak at the logon screen. I cannot tell when the logon screen appears and when it is ready to receive my Windows password. I cannot tell if anything is happening if I do enter something and try to TAB to the OK button. Needless to say, this makes logging on to my PC impossible at these times without sighted assistance. My husband who is sighted has helped me deal wit this. We have called the Microsoft Accessible Help line. They said that somehow JAWS gets corrupted when there are Windows 10 updates, and that we should uninstall and reinstall JAWS making sure to set JAWS to speak at the logon screen. Doing those things solves the problem until another Windows 10 update occurs. There was a Windows 10 update recently. We will need to go through the process of uninstalling and reinstalling JAWS for the thirdtime. I'm wondering if others among you have experienced these difficulties. I'm also wondering if there is a newer version of JAWS that does not have this problem with Windows 10 updates. I've read of so many problems with JAWS 2018 that I'm hesitant to upgrade to it at this point. I don't know how someone without sighted assistance would deal with the frustrations that Ihave described. Repeatedly waiting around for sighted help to fix a recurring problem such as this shouldn't be acceptable. As a comment, I want to also say that I'm finding the discussion of screen readers and web browsers interesting. I admit that having to become skilled using different screen readers and web browsers, and to keep assessing which screen reader/web browser combination works with various websites is very discouraging. I use Internet Explorer. Even the NY Times is crashing more now than it did previously. I usually get done what I need to but I admit that I'm definitely less technically adept than many of you. Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer. Christine Murphy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Recurring problem: JAWS not speaking at logon screen after Windows 10 updates
Hello Everyone, I'm using Windows 10 with JAWS version 17.0.2729. I'm seeking input regarding a recurring problem that I'm experiencing when Windows 10 updates have taken place. Whenever there has been a Windows 10 update, JAWS does not speak at the logon screen. I cannot tell when the logon screen appears and when it is ready to receive my Windows password. I cannot tell if anything is happening if I do enter something and try to TAB to the OK button. Needless to say, this makes logging on to my PC impossible at these times without sighted assistance. My husband who is sighted has helped me deal wit this. We have called the Microsoft Accessible Help line. They said that somehow JAWS gets corrupted when there are Windows 10 updates, and that we should uninstall and reinstall JAWS making sure to set JAWS to speak at the logon screen. Doing those things solves the problem until another Windows 10 update occurs. There was a Windows 10 update recently. We will need to go through the process of uninstalling and reinstalling JAWS for the thirdtime. I'm wondering if others among you have experienced these difficulties. I'm also wondering if there is a newer version of JAWS that does not have this problem with Windows 10 updates. I've read of so many problems with JAWS 2018 that I'm hesitant to upgrade to it at this point. I don't know how someone without sighted assistance would deal with the frustrations that Ihave described. Repeatedly waiting around for sighted help to fix a recurring problem such as this shouldn't be acceptable. As a comment, I want to also say that I'm finding the discussion of screen readers and web browsers interesting. I admit that having to become skilled using different screen readers and web browsers, and to keep assessing which screen reader/web browser combination works with various websites is very discouraging. I use Internet Explorer. Even the NY Times is crashing more now than it did previously. I usually get done what I need to but I admit that I'm definitely less technically adept than many of you. Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer. Christine Murphy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] John martyn scripts
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[JAWS-Users] John martyn scripts
Hi, does anyone know if John Martyn still writes scripts and if so what is his website and how do you get in touch with him? If you wish feel free to contact me off list dennisl1...@gmail.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/