RE: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-10 Thread Holger Engels
On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Schaefer, Andreas wrote: Did you work with EJX. I tried to use it and it has some nice features but in the case of EJX (at least for me) it is too complicated and NO docu. I liked the idea of using Beans and the Bean Framework but the actual version of EJX is clunky and

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-10 Thread Peter Fagerlund
On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Schaefer, Andreas wrote: When you want to reanimate EJX please do so but keep in mind that this is a big job and we need someone dedicated to it. on 1-08-10 09.16, Holger Engels at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, where are the sources for the EjbJar ResourceManager? I only

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-10 Thread Rickard Öberg
Peter Fagerlund wrote: On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Schaefer, Andreas wrote: When you want to reanimate EJX please do so but keep in mind that this is a big job and we need someone dedicated to it. on 1-08-10 09.16, Holger Engels at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, where are the sources for the

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-10 Thread Peter Fagerlund
on 1-08-10 13.28, Rickard Öberg at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of the EJX parts is closed source ... EJX is OpenSource, BSD license. What parts do you think are closed source? some dreambean stuff - or that was my understanding : 1) becouse it is mentioned on this list (old JBossGUI =

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-10 Thread Rickard Öberg
Peter Fagerlund wrote: some dreambean stuff - or that was my understanding : 1) becouse it is mentioned on this list (old JBossGUI = closed source) That's a lie. It's BSD. Download source from http://dreambean.com/ejx.html 2) when i looked at the distro could not find source - lot of barfing

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-10 Thread Peter Fagerlund
on 1-08-10 14.19, Rickard Öberg at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Fagerlund wrote: some dreambean stuff - or that was my understanding : 1) becouse it is mentioned on this list (old JBossGUI = closed source) That's a lie. It's BSD. Download source from http://dreambean.com/ejx.html 2)

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-10 Thread Rickard Öberg
Peter Fagerlund wrote: I was refering to : Re: [JBoss-dev] EJX and XML on 1-06-25 19.30, marc fleury at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes EJX doesn't really belong here anymore. Also rickard is not supporting it, it doesn't really work, and finally they are com.dreambean classes not JBoss

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-10 Thread Wei-ju Wu
Hm, it is not the code that made me think of a complete rewrite, it's (IMHO) its non-existence of usability and user-friendliness which lies in its concept. Furthermore, the advanced options of EJB 2.0 and JBoss = 2.4 are not supported. I think user interfaces should be developed more from the

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-10 Thread Holger Engels
On Fri, 10 Aug 2001, Wei-ju Wu wrote: Hm, it is not the code that made me think of a complete rewrite, it's (IMHO) its non-existence of usability and user-friendliness which lies in its concept. Furthermore, the advanced options of EJB 2.0 and JBoss = 2.4 are not supported. I think user

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-08 Thread Andreas Schaefer
Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss Anreas, Quick FYI for anybody starting up a new GUI tool/IDE Just wanted to let you know that IBM is opening the core of WebSphere Studio (in the near future) Not sure what type of license they will end up opening the sources up

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-08 Thread Andreas Schaefer
: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss hi everybody, this is my first posting to jboss-dev. I hope to contribute some code to Jboss someday:oP Yes, I could need some help. Right now I postponed the design for a GUI because I am focused

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-08 Thread Jacob Andresen
hi again:) Hi The general idea is that JBoss implements JSR-77 and the management GUI uses the JSR-77 interfaces. Therefore the client does not have to know much about JBoss. oki.. I will start playing around with JSR-77. I will try to consolidate the positions and ideas on the JBossMGT

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-08 Thread Wei-ju Wu
/HTML... That would be a lot of work though. Wei-ju - Original Message - From: Andreas Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss Right know there are two ways to create an GUI

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-08 Thread Peter Fagerlund
on 1-08-08 19.05, Jacob Andresen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JbossMGT client could run on your mobile phone :oP Yes ... design in a PresenterFactory interface in front of the JSR-77 interface that can be used by a JMX, HTML, WAP, anyOtherProtocol client classes to generate (transcode) the

RE: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-08 Thread Holger Engels
Sorry, I don't quite understand .. what was so bad about the ejx approach? I recognized ejx as a _generic_ powerful, simply to use framework for building xml-editors. I think, it would be a better idea, to build upon the existing editors and make them more user friendly, verbose and fool prove.

RE: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-08 Thread Schaefer, Andreas
: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss on 1-08-08 19.05, Jacob Andresen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JbossMGT client could run on your mobile phone :oP Yes ... design in a PresenterFactory interface in front of the JSR-77 interface that can be used by a JMX, HTML, WAP

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-08 Thread Peter Fagerlund
Now I am really confused - not just but really ;-) You say that MGT will use EJB as communication instead of JMX as bus ? I can se a PresentationFactory using EJB as collector of data before it delegates to its HTML, Wap, Swing or whatHaveU for presentation specific processing, but for MGT of

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-08 Thread Peter Fagerlund
on 1-08-08 19.39, Schaefer, Andreas at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - we have a dedicated, stripped-down application server running the management server Should'ent all servers in one domain be able to be the MGT server for that instance domain ? - dynamic swap for service/fail over ? /peter_f

RE: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-08 Thread Schaefer, Andreas
how to use JMX with JSR-77 but I don't know where they are heading to. Andy -Original Message- From: Peter Fagerlund [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 11:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss Now I am really

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-08 Thread Jacob Andresen
on 1-08-08 19.39, Schaefer, Andreas at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - we have a dedicated, stripped-down application server running the management server Should'ent all servers in one domain be able to be the MGT server for that instance domain ? - dynamic swap for service/fail over ?

RE: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-08 Thread Schaefer, Andreas
, August 08, 2001 12:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss on 1-08-08 19.39, Schaefer, Andreas at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - we have a dedicated, stripped-down application server running the management server Should'ent all servers in one

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-08 Thread Peter Fagerlund
on 1-08-08 22.03, Schaefer, Andreas at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe you have a farm of app. servers w/o a Servlet Engine but you need one for the MGT server. Scenario : - I have two machines running JBoss with servlet engines for failover and loadbalance purposes ! - I would not run one of

RE: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-08 Thread Schaefer, Andreas
Hi -Original Message- From: Peter Fagerlund [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 1:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss on 1-08-08 22.03, Schaefer, Andreas at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe you have

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-07 Thread Wei-ju Wu
I am starting to create a management GUI see project JBossMGT but right now I am only working on making JBoss manageable but have no clear idea how to create the GUI. Do you need some help on that point ? I could spend some time thinking about it if I know how it should be used. Therefore

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-07 Thread Andreas Schaefer
Hi - Original Message - From: Wei-ju Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 12:40 AM Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss I am starting to create a management GUI see project JBossMGT but right now I am only working on making

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-07 Thread Hiram Chirino
PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 19:03:14 -0700 Hi - Original Message - From: Wei-ju Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 12:40 AM Subject: Re: [JBoss

Re: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-07 Thread Jacob Andresen
hi everybody, this is my first posting to jboss-dev. I hope to contribute some code to Jboss someday:oP Yes, I could need some help. Right now I postponed the design for a GUI because I am focused on implementing the server stuff. There are two things right now I would need: - Design of

RE: [JBoss-dev] A new user interface for JBoss

2001-08-06 Thread Schaefer, Andreas
Hi Looking good ;-) I am starting to create a management GUI see project JBossMGT but right now I am only working on making JBoss manageable but have no clear idea how to create the GUI. A basic idea was to create GUI components and use JMX as communication layer between the components.