RE: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence?

2003-01-13 Thread Matt Munz
Dain, What is going on with MBean persistence? Not much, as far as I can tell. Can we do this today? Yes, but only by persisting to ObjectOutputStream files. XML / JDBC persistence engines have yet to be written. If not is anyone working on it? I origionally wrote

Re: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence?

2003-01-13 Thread Dain Sundstrom
So Matt are you interested in working on the XML persistence? -dain On Monday, January 13, 2003, at 08:32 AM, Matt Munz wrote: Dain, What is going on with MBean persistence? Not much, as far as I can tell. Can we do this today? Yes, but only by persisting to ObjectOutputStream files.

RE: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence?

2003-01-13 Thread Matt Munz
- From: Dain Sundstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Mon 1/13/2003 10:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence? So Matt are you interested in working on the XML persistence

RE: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence?

2003-01-13 Thread Bill Burke
Title: Re: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence?  Matt, I think we want seemless integration here. If the MBean is packaged within a SAR, the SAR should be exploded, the XML file modified and the SAR re-jared. Same goes withstraight XML files or SARS embedded withinSARs (russian doll). I'm

Re: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence?

2003-01-13 Thread Dain Sundstrom
: Monday, January 13, 2003 10:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence? Dain,   So Matt are you interested in working on the XML persistence?   Yeah, I suppose I could put some more time into it.  It sounds like you know a few people that might actually be users

RE: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence?

2003-01-13 Thread Matt Munz
/2003 10:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence? So Matt are you interested in working on the XML

RE: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence?

2003-01-13 Thread Matt Munz
! - Matt -Original Message- From: Dain Sundstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Mon 1/13/2003 11:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence? Yes basically

Re: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence?

2003-01-13 Thread Dain Sundstrom
Sent: Mon 1/13/2003 10:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence? Matt, I think we want seemless integration here. If the MBean is packaged within a SAR, the SAR should be exploded, the XML file modified and the SAR re-jared. Same goes with straight

RE: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence?

2003-01-13 Thread Jeremy Boynes
Title: Re: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence?  Like Matt, I have concerns about modifying the files in the deployment as well. I think his concerns about division of roles are valid - I'd go further and say this needs to be able to handle a split between 'deployer' and 'operator/sys admin

Re: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence?

2003-01-13 Thread Dain Sundstrom
On Monday, January 13, 2003, at 11:26 AM, Matt Munz wrote: Dain, Please see my recent email in response to Bill. Yes. I think sf is creating a big lag between our emails. I origionally started with this approach, but the more I thought about it, the more untenable it seemed. Based on

RE: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence?

2003-01-13 Thread Sacha Labourey
Simpler console for common tasks The administrator the power of the JMX console, and think it is cool they can change the behavior of the entire system. On the other hand they are overwhelmed by the options. Most would like a very simple static interface

Re: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence?

2003-01-13 Thread Dain Sundstrom
I love you sacha! I can't seem to find the screen shot. I'll see if I can get this working on my apple. -dain On Monday, January 13, 2003, at 11:39 AM, Sacha Labourey wrote: Simpler console for common tasks The administrator the power of the JMX console, and

RE: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence?

2003-01-13 Thread Sacha Labourey
de Dain Sundstrom Envoye : lundi, 13 janvier 2003 18:51 A : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : Re: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence? I love you sacha! I can't seem to find the screen shot. I'll see if I can get this working on my apple. -dain On Monday, January 13, 2003, at 11:39 AM, Sacha

Re: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence?

2003-01-13 Thread Dain Sundstrom
Jeremy, Specific comments are inline... On Monday, January 13, 2003, at 11:33 AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: Like Matt, I have concerns about modifying the files in the deployment as well. I think his concerns about division of roles are valid - I'd go further and say this needs to be able to

Re: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence?

2003-01-13 Thread Hunter Hillegas
Our admin here thinks that Dain is spot on with this analysis. From: Dain Sundstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:27:07 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence? Matt, I have meet with many system administrators

RE: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence?

2003-01-13 Thread Matt Munz
generate a use case that shows why two files is worse than one... - Matt -Original Message- From: Dain Sundstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Mon 1/13/2003 1:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev

Re: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence?

2003-01-13 Thread Dain Sundstrom
On Monday, January 13, 2003, at 01:26 PM, Matt Munz wrote: Dain, First off, thank you for providing much-needed field data for this work. Your comments on Persistence in general are identical to my reasons for working on MBean Persistence in the first place. When I suggest that we could

RE: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence?

2003-01-13 Thread Matt Munz
Message- From: Dain Sundstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Mon 1/13/2003 2:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence? On Monday, January 13, 2003, at 01:26 PM, Matt Munz wrote

Re: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence?

2003-01-13 Thread Scott M Stark
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RE: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence?

2003-01-13 Thread Matt Munz
/13/2003 5:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence? This should not be a black and white option. We need a logical seperation from configuration from the deployment at the JBoss core layer

Re: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence?

2003-01-13 Thread Scott M Stark
- From: Matt Munz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 2:38 PM Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence? Scott, Thanks. I think the common point to both strategies is the MBean - XML serializer. I'll get started on that. For what date is the 3.2 release

Re: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence?

2003-01-13 Thread Scott M Stark
PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 3:39 PM Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence? Matt, please don't rush this into 3.2 I think the 3.x series should be frozen for funtionality except in the case of a paying customer. We should start pushing for 4.0

Re: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence?

2003-01-13 Thread viktor
What if changes to the DeploymentScanner was made to reflect : file - DeploymentScanner - Mbean jmx-console - DeploymentScanner - Mbean and file Then adding writes inside russian dolls could/should also revolve around the DeploymentScanner as hub.

Re: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence?

2003-01-13 Thread Dain Sundstrom
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Re: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence?

2003-01-13 Thread Scott M Stark
- Original Message - From: Dain Sundstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence? I'm not sure if you agree with my proposal or not. Do you think we should add the feature to persist the changes

Re: [JBoss-dev] MBean persistence?

2003-01-11 Thread Peter Fagerlund
lördagen den 11 januari 2003 kl 19.42 skrev Dain Sundstrom: anyone working on it? When do you expect to In some sidesteps projects here ... it is easy when hsqldb is up ... or in a grid ... when one master is up to have configurations federated.