Re: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ?

2002-06-03 Thread Jules Gosnell
OK, It looks like I have been bludgeoned into seperating Jetty config and impl. Just for the record, Jason, I still don't think you have taken in my suggestion. You seem to think that I am belligerently hanging onto the idea of delivering Jetty in a single file, which needs unpacking,

Re: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ?

2002-06-03 Thread Jason Dillon
I have suggested delivering the jetty-plugin UNPACKED numerous times (as you will now find it if you build HEAD). Unpacked means there is a deploy/jetty-plugin/* I have not looked, but I was hoping to avoid this type of inconsitency in the default release. Personally I think the unpacked

Re: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ?

2002-06-03 Thread lsanders
To recap: deployment type | Advantages |Disadvantages - .sar archive | 1 file | Pain in the ass to configure | digital signature | |

Re: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ?

2002-06-03 Thread Jason Dillon
Thanks for the recap, but it is in correct. deployment type | Advantages |Disadvantages --- - - .sar archive | 1 file | Pain in the ass to configure |

RE: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ?

2002-06-03 Thread marc fleury
PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jan Bartel; [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ? | | |OK, | |It looks like I have been bludgeoned into seperating Jetty config and impl. | |Just for the record, Jason, I still don't think you have taken in my |suggestion. | |You

Re: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ?

2002-06-03 Thread Jason Dillon
, 2002 1:58 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jan Bartel; [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ? | | |OK, | |It looks like I have been bludgeoned into seperating Jetty config and | impl. | |Just for the record, Jason

RE: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ?

2002-06-03 Thread marc fleury
|Really... how do you come to these conclusions? if jetty is configured through jetty.xml then we need to use the directory if jetty is configured through jboss-service.xml then we need to use a jetty-service.xml End of story. what file are we talking about? marcf

RE: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ?

2002-06-03 Thread marc fleury
|To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lsanders |Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ? | | |Thanks for the recap, but it is in correct. | | deployment type | Advantages |Disadvantages

Re: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ?

2002-06-03 Thread Jason Dillon
So there are 3 different possible locations for the configuration of jetty? How is this not complex to you? --jason On Monday 03 June 2002 03:25 pm, marc fleury wrote: |Really... how do you come to these conclusions? if jetty is configured through jetty.xml then we need to use the

RE: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ?

2002-06-03 Thread marc fleury
|So there are 3 different possible locations for the configuration |of jetty? no the configuration of jetty is done with jboss-service.xml marcf ___ Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference August 25-28

Re: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ?

2002-06-03 Thread Jules Gosnell
Guys, I've already said that I would alter Jetty's packaging for Jason. Jason, where do you want Jetty's jars to go ? I just tried them in lib/ with a jetty-service.xml in deploy/ - it didn't work - I got a nice message telling me jetty-service.xml is being deployed - then nothing (this is

Re: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ?

2002-06-03 Thread Jason Dillon
-- jetty-service.xml if no -- use diretory structure exploded marcf |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jason |Dillon |Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 3:16 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lsanders |Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Where should

Re: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ?

2002-06-03 Thread lsanders
digi sigs will not work when you need to change the config. it is only useful if you have static config and want to ensure that the contents do not change. the second you need to chagne the config, you must resign... Right. The point is, it can be distributed with a signature, as long as

RE: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ?

2002-06-03 Thread marc fleury
| |Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ? | | | | | |Thanks for the recap, but it is in correct. | | | | deployment type | Advantages |Disadvantages | | | ||-- | |- | | | |- - | | .sar

Re: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ?

2002-06-03 Thread Jason Dillon
the brain common sense and stop feeling so lonely marcf | marcf | | |-Original Message- | |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of | | Jason Dillon | |Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 3:16 PM | |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lsanders | |Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Where

Re: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ?

2002-06-02 Thread Ignacio Coloma
'(\\.ear$ . archive-mode) auto-mode-alist)) Share and Enjoy, James -Original Message- From: David Jencks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 11:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ? I still like the sar concept. I notice

RE: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ?

2002-06-02 Thread marc fleury
|take all the | |resources out of their ears and deploy them in lib/, then | |just drop the | |dds into deploy/. | |Ok, so they can edit their descriptors - but it's not J2EE, is it ? This is the future yes, for all the deployment types. marcf

RE: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ?

2002-06-02 Thread James Cook
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ignacio Coloma Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 10:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ? Maybe having to install and learn to manage emacs and custom edit the emacs config to modify the Jetty log system

Re: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ?

2002-06-01 Thread Jason Dillon
Why have a sar of jars and a separate service.xml ? You might as well do as Scott suggests and collapse all the jars into one. Besides, if a sar is not deployable (because it has no dd) and therefore does not encapsulate a JMX service - why call it a sar ? A sar of jars is a convient

RE: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ?

2002-06-01 Thread James Higginbotham
-mode-alist)) Share and Enjoy, James -Original Message- From: David Jencks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 11:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ? I still like the sar concept. I notice that emacs can

Re: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ?

2002-05-31 Thread Jason Dillon
Jules, how about making the jetty-plugin.sar just contain the jars and have a seperate jetty-service.xml? --jason On Friday 31 May 2002 04:31 pm, Jules Gosnell wrote: Scott, Would you mind if I moved the jasper.jar from lib/ to jetty-plugin.sar ? I figure: - jasper is an implementation

Re: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ?

2002-05-31 Thread Scott M Stark
That is fine but why not just create a single jetty-service.jar that includes all Jetty specific files and have a seperate jetty-service.xml descriptor with your config that references the required jar: server classpath codebase=. archives=jetty-service.jar/ ... This is how I'm packaging the

Re: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ?

2002-05-31 Thread Jules Gosnell
I had a feeling I would never sneak this through without opening a can of worms. Jason, Why have a sar of jars and a separate service.xml ? You might as well do as Scott suggests and collapse all the jars into one. Besides, if a sar is not deployable (because it has no dd) and therefore

Re: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ?

2002-05-31 Thread Jules Gosnell
The natural progression of all this separation of config and implementation is that we will begin encouraging people to take all the resources out of their ears and deploy them in lib/, then just drop the dds into deploy/. Ok, so they can edit their descriptors - but it's not J2EE, is it ?

Re: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ?

2002-05-31 Thread Scott M Stark
Gosnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jan Bartel [EMAIL PROTECTED]; jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ? I had a feeling I would never sneak this through without opening a can

Re: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ?

2002-05-31 Thread Jules Gosnell
] Where should the Jasper jar live ? I had a feeling I would never sneak this through without opening a can of worms. Jason, Why have a sar of jars and a separate service.xml ? You might as well do as Scott suggests and collapse all the jars into one. Besides, if a sar is not deployable

Re: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ?

2002-05-31 Thread Scott M Stark
Scott M Stark wrote: Ultimately the configuration of every mbean is going to be seperate from its implementation to support persistence of changes made through the management interface. So will this persistant configuration be laid over the static dd one, or will it replace the dd ?

Re: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ?

2002-05-31 Thread David Jencks
I still like the sar concept. I notice that emacs can edit files in jars (such as ejb-jar.xml) and save them back into the jar. Anyone know enough elisp to figure out how to make it edit .sar, .ear, .war, etc the same way? (I presume it just means recognizing the file format/extension as

Re: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ?

2002-05-31 Thread Jason Dillon
Group, LLC - Original Message - From: Jules Gosnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jan Bartel [EMAIL PROTECTED]; jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live

Re: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ?

2002-05-31 Thread Jason Dillon
dislcaimer, a few beers in me after the laker game... The natural progression of all this separation of config and implementation is that we will begin encouraging people to take all the resources out of their ears and deploy them in lib/, then just drop the dds into deploy/. Who gives a