Re: [JBoss-dev] Design: Plans to decouple JBoss from log4j

2002-10-09 Thread Jason Dillon
- Original Message - From: Jason Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Design: Plans to decouple JBoss from log4j The major issue with Log4j that I have is size... it is huge. Commons is very small

RE: [JBoss-dev] Design: Plans to decouple JBoss from log4j

2002-10-09 Thread James Higginbotham
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Design: Plans to decouple JBoss from log4j It is too bad commons logging does not provide abstractions for a ContextStack or ContextMap similar to Log4j's NDC and MDC. These are valuable constructs. Do you know anyone on the commons logging team

RE: [JBoss-dev] Design: Plans to decouple JBoss from log4j

2002-10-09 Thread Matt Munz
] Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Design: Plans to decouple JBoss from log4j The major issue with Log4j that I have is size... it is huge. Commons is very small. If Log4j has a 20k footprint (or smaller) for client usage an dprovided a simple method to disable logging, then I would see no need

RE: [JBoss-dev] Design: Plans to decouple JBoss from log4j

2002-10-08 Thread Jason Dillon
PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of James Higginbotham Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 6:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Design: Plans to decouple JBoss from log4j Do you know how you switch the LogFactory impl? I am guessing there is a system property, but I did not see anything

Re: [JBoss-dev] Design: Plans to decouple JBoss from log4j

2002-10-08 Thread David Jencks
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:jboss- [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of James Higginbotham Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 6:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Design: Plans to decouple JBoss from log4j Do you know how you switch

Re: [JBoss-dev] Design: Plans to decouple JBoss from log4j

2002-10-08 Thread Scott M Stark
: Jason Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Design: Plans to decouple JBoss from log4j The major issue with Log4j that I have is size... it is huge. Commons is very small. If Log4j has a 20k footprint (or smaller

Re: [JBoss-dev] Design: Plans to decouple JBoss from log4j

2002-10-04 Thread Jason Dillon
I just looked over the commons logging api and it closly resembles org.jboss.logging.Logger. The only major differences are that Logger is a class and is serializable (the log4j commons log impl does not) not a big deal, as we can write a subclass of the log4j log factory to produce

RE: [JBoss-dev] Design: Plans to decouple JBoss from log4j

2002-10-04 Thread Randahl Fink Isaksen
. oktober 2002 11:48 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Design: Plans to decouple JBoss from log4j I just looked over the commons logging api and it closly resembles org.jboss.logging.Logger. The only major differences are that Logger is a class and is serializable (the log4j commons log

RE: [JBoss-dev] Design: Plans to decouple JBoss from log4j

2002-10-04 Thread Jason Dillon
Well, we happen to be one of the companies who would like JBoss to have support for the logging system of what you call the JDK 1.4 crap API. Ick *spit* Some like pain, some prefer pleasure ;) But why is there no support for using the standard java.util.logging mechanism with JBoss? No

RE: [JBoss-dev] Design: Plans to decouple JBoss from log4j

2002-10-04 Thread James Higginbotham
Do you know how you switch the LogFactory impl? I am guessing there is a system property, but I did not see anything obvious by looking at the javadocs. I've been using commons logging for a few months now - not bad at all.. You drive the impl from a properties file called

RE: [JBoss-dev] Design: Plans to decouple JBoss from log4j

2002-10-04 Thread marc fleury
Title: Message randahl, I am swimming back up this thread as it seems it has kicked up a fuss. . dude, the bottom line is very simple. If you really care, you put your time on the line, or you pay us to do it (we do a lot of work under contract for customers on this list). I do believe

RE: [JBoss-dev] Design: Plans to decouple JBoss from log4j

2002-10-04 Thread Randahl Fink Isaksen
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of marc fleury Sent: 4. oktober 2002 15:43 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Design: Plans to decouple JBoss from log4j randahl, I am swimming back up this thread as it seems

RE: [JBoss-dev] Design: Plans to decouple JBoss from log4j

2002-10-04 Thread marc fleury
Title: Message | There is no reason telling me the basics of the business, Morpheus - |I might very well swallow that famous addictive red pill you keep on pushing. It would suit I am indeed morpheus, and I am still looking for the one. You kids keep on taking those pills, something tells