2.0 - breaking out into multiple tracks

We have differing visions of what "Jenkins 2.0" would actually mean, and those visions are to a certain extent mutually incompatible - getting 2.0 out in the timeframe Kohsuke has proposed wouldn't be possible if that requires not just the user experience work he has mentioned but also storage

Re: How to restore the setting encrypted by credential plugin?

Hi Stephen, I tried to backup all the jenkins home, and re-deploy to a new machine, all the credentials seems to fail, is the key have something related to machine environment? Thanks, Ryanivanka On Tuesday, September 8, 2015 at 5:32:17 PM UTC+8, Stephen Connolly wrote: > > On 8 September

Re: 2.0 - breaking out into multiple tracks

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Vojtech Juranek wrote: > in general I agree with your (I'd like to see changes in backend happen as > well), but I'm not sure about this one - you don't expect any API changes > or > you propose to do backward incompatible changes in a minor

Re: 2.0 - breaking out into multiple tracks

Hi, > another set of devs will be working > on the initial storage changes, targeting 2.15 or something like that in general I agree with your (I'd like to see changes in backend happen as well), but I'm not sure about this one - you don't expect any API changes or you propose to do backward

Re: Jenkins 2.0 proposal

Hey Baptiste, this is a really great idea!!! since a while I’m not in the position to deal with the setup of my instance myself, but I remember when I had to give advices to all different departments in my old organisation - automated setup of a new CI/CD environment is a really important thing

How to use latest jenkins version to debug plugin?

Hi Experts, I'm debugging credential plugin, which use 1.56 as default jenkins version. I can hpi:run my plugin and access my jenkin web page on http://localhost:8080/jenkins But the version is too old, I want to install other plugin to check some behavior. *How can I change the default

Re: [2.0] Website rebump

On 08.10.2015, at 06:39, Gus Reiber wrote: > I understand the urge to keep the scope manageable, but I am not sure I see > in Daniel's list where the improvement is likely to come. It is a little > concern of mine that we are emphasizing ease of authorship for a

Re: Jenkins 2.0 proposal

I feel the same way as Andrew, I remember when we where talking about things we would have loved to do but where afraid to do because of backward compatibility - the answer coming up that time always was: we can do this with v2.0, but not now yet. Although I really think the direction we are

Re: Jenkins 2.0 proposal

Tyler did write a jenkins puppet module that can do some of this stuff - https://github.com/jenkinsci/puppet-jenkins. But something on the jenkins side to better support this sort of scenario would definitely be valuable. A. On Thursday, October 8, 2015, domi wrote: > Hey

Re: 2.0 - breaking out into multiple tracks

+1 for breaking activities into threads, +1 to let Andrew lead the database backend activity; +100500 for moving all compat changes to the third track. Had the same proposal in the Jenkins 2.0 thread, but it has been lost in other comments. Compat track is a painful stuff, but I think that

Re: 2.0 - breaking out into multiple tracks

On 8 October 2015 at 11:45, Nigel Magnay wrote: > >> We have differing visions of what "Jenkins 2.0" would actually mean, and >> those visions are to a certain extent mutually incompatible - getting 2.0 >> out in the timeframe Kohsuke has proposed wouldn't be possible if

Re: 2.0 - breaking out into multiple tracks

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 3:00 AM, Andrew Bayer wrote: > Pluggable storage/database backend - Scope to be determined, myself as > shepherd, target release date of April 2016. This seems a very optimistic schedule based on my experience of what ought to have been far simpler

Re: [2.0] Website rebump

+1 I'd imagined something like www.git-scm.com. They've had over 100 individual contributors. I'd completely bin comments. I don't see why the site needs to *host* a blog - why can't it just be links to Jenkins articles elsewhere. Bigger requirements just end up sucking you towards the

Re: [2.0] Website rebump

Do we have any site statistics on the current site of what pages are most frequently viewed? That could feed into a perhaps better discussion on what type of information to focus on. One thing that makes me a bit uneasy in the discussion so far is the fact that both Daniel and Gus seems to glance

Re: 2.0 - breaking out into multiple tracks

Fair enough. On Oct 8, 2015 14:04, "Jesse Glick" wrote: > On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 3:00 AM, Andrew Bayer > wrote: > > Pluggable storage/database backend - Scope to be determined, myself as > > shepherd, target release date of April 2016. > > This

Re: jenkins.ci library releases.

Actually this is trivial to do with no restructuring. Just need to change the in the pom.xml from g...@github.com to https://github.com in the libraries. Whilst I thought about doing that I didn't want to incur the wrath of the community when they could no longer easily release from their

Re: 2.0 - breaking out into multiple tracks

> We have differing visions of what "Jenkins 2.0" would actually mean, and > those visions are to a certain extent mutually incompatible - getting 2.0 > out in the timeframe Kohsuke has proposed wouldn't be possible if that > requires not just the user experience work he has mentioned but also >

Re: jenkins.ci library releases.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 6:44 AM, James Nord wrote: > "[maven-release-plugin] (jnord) some-funky-library-1.2.3-4" - but this > would be the user on the CI system not the user on github. > > Would that work for you jesse? Sure, better than nothing. -- You received this

Re: How to restore the setting encrypted by credential plugin?

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 3:16 AM, Ryanivanka wrote: > I tried to backup all the jenkins home, and re-deploy to a new machine, all > the credentials seems to fail, is the key have something related to machine > environment? No. Perhaps you missed some files. -- You

Re: jenkins.ci library releases.

Actually scratch that the push user is not the commiter or author. We may be able to provide something quick in the commit message by making the Jenkins username part of the message? "[maven-release-plugin] (jnord) some-funky-library-1.2.3-4" - but this would be the user on the CI system not

Re: How to use latest jenkins version to debug plugin?

That's the way of updating the jenkins version dependency and if you see some weird changes in the style there was an UI change in the version 1.575 (https://jenkins-ci.org/changelog) it might be related to that style issue I hope it helps On Thursday, 8 October 2015 10:45:00 UTC+2, Ryanivanka

Re: 2.0 - breaking out into multiple tracks

> > > Ok, I'll bite. > > There are a number of conflicting things we need to balance. > > * There are some bigger UI/UX refreshes that we want to get out to > users. A long standing complaint is that the Jenkins UI/UX is dated. > Moving to a 2.0 label corresponding to the visible UI changes helps

Re: How to use latest jenkins version to debug plugin?

Thank you Victor. If I only change the version in pom.xml and use maven to rebuild, it won't load the latest CSS file? I expect it's contained in jar. How can I fix this? 2015-10-08 18:57 GMT+08:00 Victor Martinez : > That's the way of updating the jenkins version

Re: Refreshing the Jenkins UI

glad to hear it is still up! no problem with jelly, i am used to Twig template engine and Angularjs, it should be not so different. I recommend to use NPM and Gulp for front-end workflow improovements (auto refreshing localhost, compiling, concatenating, managing dependencies, check test

Re: 2.0 - breaking out into multiple tracks

That sounds reasonable to me. Given the likelihood that I misjudged how long the storage change would take, it's very plausible that any of the larger architectural improvements would take long enough to wait for late 2016. On Oct 8, 2015 14:57, "Baptiste Mathus" wrote: > Maybe

Re: Refreshing the Jenkins UI

Hi Kayn. There's also an ongoing conversation about Jenkins 2.0. It's hoped that a big part of this will be improvements to the UX. KK listed UX as being high on his wish list. >From a UX perspective, we've been trying to put some things in place to help us do things better (using more

Re: Build Pipeline Plugin

I'm interested in being a maintainer, if you need help. I have a few pending PRs myself: https://github.com/jenkinsci/build-pipeline-plugin/pull/89 https://github.com/jenkinsci/build-pipeline-plugin/pull/79 On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 2:24:34 PM UTC-6, Manuel Recena Soto wrote: > >

Re: How to use latest jenkins version to debug plugin?

You might need to.remove that build.generated folder via mvn clean and likely another generated folder which.contains the JENKINS_HOME data, then those cache data won't be there and you will have a clear jenkins instance I hope it helps -- You received this message because you are subscribed

Re: [2.0] Website rebump

2015-10-08 4:06 GMT-07:00 Nigel Magnay : > +1 > > I'd imagined something like www.git-scm.com. They've had over 100 > individual contributors. > Yep, another static site backed by Git ... oh wait, it's actually a Rails app. Hmm. > I'd completely bin comments. I don't

Re: [2.0] Website rebump

2015-10-08 3:08 GMT-07:00 Robert Sandell : > Do we have any site statistics on the current site of what pages are most > frequently viewed? That could feed into a perhaps better discussion on what > type of information to focus on. > We have it connected to Google

Re: Safari icon plugin

Thanks, this is cool. Any reason this shouldn't be a part of the core? I'd love to integrate it in there. It's just adding a tag, right? 2015-10-08 10:56 GMT-07:00 Sunil Patel : > Hello! > > Safari 9.0 introduced the ability to pin tabs. The icons for these must

Safari icon plugin

Hello! Safari 9.0 introduced the ability to pin tabs. The icons for these must be a solid black svg (and as such the favicon can't be used). If you want to add the icon to your jenkins, my super tiny plug-in to do that is here: https://github.com/srpatel/jenkins-pinned-tab (jenkins-ci

Re: FW: Jenkins CIA event

Alyssa,   Thanks! The event is confirmed.   Finishing the slides tomorrow-ish, so blog could be tomorrow or more likely this weekend.   The address in my sig is perfect for stickers and stuff. :)   T-shirt sizes: I'm a 4xlt when I can find it. I can guess on Rick and Jennifer, but prefer they

Re: [2.0] Website rebump

Oh no The internet never forgets! ...tonight I am going to party like it is 1999: https://web.archive.org/web/2816062846/http://devex.allaire.com/developer/gallery/index.cfm ...I take it back. App Stores are way, way, way sexier. On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Christopher Orr

Re: [2.0] Website rebump

On 08/10/15 21:44, Baptiste Mathus wrote: > 2015-10-08 20:36 GMT+02:00 Gus Reiber >: > Personally, I think the demonstration of Jenkins extensibility > is more impressive than the saying of it. And, that demonstration is > the

Re: FW: Jenkins CIA event

LOL! lotto ticket is an excellent idea! we may just send you a couple..winning ticket is not guaranteed of course :o) Lemme check on those standard slides for you. If it's currently not avail now, i'll see if we can have something by your session date (no promises tho :o). Do you have plans on

Re: FW: Jenkins CIA event

@ Bryan - pls send me the link to the event? thnx alyssa On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Alyssa Tong wrote: > LOL! lotto ticket is an excellent idea! we may just send you a > couple..winning ticket is not guaranteed of course :o) > > Lemme check on those standard slides

Re: [2.0] Website rebump

I think plugins are almost exactly like apps in an app store. Way back when I worked at Allaire, we (Mike Nimer and I) built a Developer's exchange that featured CFML applets and code snippets. That experience was designed very much like today's app-stores (but with older and crappier web-tech).

Re: FW: Jenkins CIA event

Hi Bryan, Thanks for reaching out. We'd love to have you (Rick, and Jennifer) as CIA. Is your event confirmed as we'll get it added to the events calendar . The next step is having you/Rick or Jennifer do a blog post about your talk to help give it

Re: [2.0] Website rebump

On 08.10.2015, at 23:12, Christopher Orr wrote: > Static site generation would be great, but as Richard commented on > INFRA-373 (and I agreed), it becomes a bit difficult to contribute to a > site like this when testing your contribution properly requires > installing a site

l10n - unable to commit

Hi there! I have been translating and commiting stuff to pt_BR for a while but it looks like I lost my access right a few months ago. > git push Enter passphrase for key '/home/fb/.ssh/id_dsa': ERROR: Permission to jenkinsci/jenkins.git denied to boaglio. fatal: Could not read from remote

Re: [2.0] Website rebump

2015-10-08 23:06 GMT+02:00 Christopher Orr : > Thanks for the explanation, and video! Do you have any old screenshots > of the Allaire stuff, out of curiosity? > > That grid does seems nice, and yeah, we do know which plugins are newest > (I'm a fan of @jenkins_release) though I

Re: FW: Jenkins CIA event

conference link   direct session info link -Original Message-From: "Alyssa Tong" Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2015 17:52To: "Jenkins Dev" Cc: rfaul...@tapqa.com, jbon...@tapqa.com, "Michael Faulise" Subject: Re: FW:

Re: l10n - unable to commit

Hmm, I could be wrong, but I don't see your CLA on file here .What's your jenkins-ci.org username? 2015-10-08 16:38 GMT-07:00 Fernando Boaglio : > > Hi there! > > I have been translating and commiting stuff to

Re: Safari icon plugin

Yes, it's totally cool that you did this plugin. I don't meant to imply that you shouldn't have done that. Quite the opposite. I've added this for 1.633. 2015-10-08 11:41 GMT-07:00 Sunil Patel : > No reason for it not to be in the core, I'd love for that to happen! > And that's

Re: l10n - unable to commit

The easiest way to contribute is to fork and create a pull request. On 09.10.2015, at 01:38, Fernando Boaglio wrote: > > Hi there! > > I have been translating and commiting stuff to pt_BR for a while but it looks > like I lost my access right a few months ago. > > > git

Re: performance labs

Wow fantastic. Actually 3 minutes means that the changes are pretty successful - I doubt there would be a whole lot to optimise in that case right? or could be even more lazy loaded? Still, probably a great example. Taking that base and then adding more plugins and config changes to the mix would

Re: Request to become maintainer of SeleniumHtmlReportPublisher

Hi there, I'm back now, we can go further with transfering maintainer role... Cheers, Stefan Oleg Nenashev schrieb am Mo., 28. Sep. 2015 um 13:46 Uhr: > It should be better than releasing a new version and then dissapearing for > a while :) > Regressions may happen with

Re: [2.0] Website rebump

Yeah, so if I am understanding you correctly, Robert, you are saying that you would like to be able to highlight some bits of content over others? I would think that would just be a matter of marking particular content pieces with a tag that pushes them to the top of the homepage. It also sounds

Re: Safari icon plugin

No reason for it not to be in the core, I'd love for that to happen! And that's right, nothing more than the . I just made the plugin so I could start using the icon at work straight away and thought I may as well share it :) sunil. On 8 October 2015 at 19:03, Kohsuke Kawaguchi

FW: Jenkins CIA event

Trying again now that I... completely... subscribed to the group. :) -Original Message-From: blin...@tapqa.comSent: Thursday, October 8, 2015 13:22To: jenkinsci-dev@googlegroups.comCc: "Richard Faulise" , "Jennifer Bonine" Subject: Jenkins CIA event

Re: [2.0] Website rebump

2015-10-08 20:36 GMT+02:00 Gus Reiber : > Yeah, so if I am understanding you correctly, Robert, you are saying that > you would like to be able to highlight some bits of content over others? I > would think that would just be a matter of marking particular content > pieces