Re: [jokosher-devel] Play/Pause discussion... the rebirth... once more
Well, about the implementation itself. The play/pause is already there, so the button won't change that. It's just the labels. Again, most players I've seen handle the play button as a two sided one, with play/pause. Take for example google video, youtube and metacafe. They both use the play/pause button and they're pretty much the most successful video sites on the web. The stop button is not going anywhere also. It'll remain as stop and rewind. Bottom line is, if the button behaves as play/pause, why won't its label/icon behave the same way as well. On 2/18/07, Thilo Pfennig < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: David Corrales schrieb: > I think that pretty much sums it all up. In practically all the > video/audio players embedded in browsers now, they use the play/pause > button. Other players do it too and I find it to be the most intuitive > way to use a double function button. Hi David, same discussion was in gnome-usability. I dont agree at all. To sum it up: iPod iPod did this and now people used to iPod think this is a good thing and also some GUI designers. From the technical level I only can say that the pausing as the only possibility has led to many headaches on my Fedora box (don't know how others cope with it). Thats because many apps dont seem to be able to really give gstreamer freedom. Soif I play pause in Banshee or rhythmbox I can not play with totem. I now have to quit the whole applications - because there is not stop. But uI guess this can be solved, although I like to see that first. Again about better usability - Not sure about that. People who do not use iPod (do you? I dont) maybe not find their way through. Would be a good thing to make some usability tests on that? Regards, Thilo -- PfennigSolutions - IT-Beratung- Wiki-Systeme c/o Thilo Pfennig - Sandkrug 28 - 24143 Kiel http://www.pfennigsolutions.de/ ___ jokosher-devel-list mailing list jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list
Re: [jokosher-devel] Play/Pause discussion... the rebirth... once more
I'll second that. It seems to me that making this act as most people would expect is a sensible. As most devices and software behave like this conforming is a good thing. I hate to mention the Gimp... but its not that hard to learn when you change it to what most people are used to like GimpShop did. Most people I know find the Gimp impossible because it is so foreign to the way they are used to operating. Anyway that is only IMHO. David Corrales wrote: Hey everyone. I just had a chat with someone who came into irc and told me, and I quote: "I did take me three goes to figure out how to pause, not sure how intuitive that is (maybe should have read the manual but learned Audacity without reading it)" I think that pretty much sums it all up. In practically all the video/audio players embedded in browsers now, they use the play/pause button. Other players do it too and I find it to be the most intuitive way to use a double function button. The whole point of using labels and icons for a button is indicating its behavior. The current way, it's not clear enough that the play button has a double function. My suggestion is that we go ahead and change the label, icon and tooltip for the button when it is in the toggled state. ___ jokosher-devel-list mailing list jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list ___ jokosher-devel-list mailing list jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list
[jokosher-devel] Play/Pause discussion... the rebirth... once more
Hey everyone. I just had a chat with someone who came into irc and told me, and I quote: "I did take me three goes to figure out how to pause, not sure how intuitive that is (maybe should have read the manual but learned Audacity without reading it)" I think that pretty much sums it all up. In practically all the video/audio players embedded in browsers now, they use the play/pause button. Other players do it too and I find it to be the most intuitive way to use a double function button. The whole point of using labels and icons for a button is indicating its behavior. The current way, it's not clear enough that the play button has a double function. My suggestion is that we go ahead and change the label, icon and tooltip for the button when it is in the toggled state. ___ jokosher-devel-list mailing list jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list