Re: [jokosher-devel] Wiki
I was gonna suggest mediawiki too, but I thought it would be too much trouble to setup yet another wiki. 2009/3/11 Christopher Brown snecklif...@gmail.com: 2009/3/11 Stuart Langridge s...@kryogenix.org: * Does either Jono or Aq know why that server is so slow? userdocs would be easier to use if it didn't take so long to load. No. That server runs quite a few sites, I admit, but the other sites aren't slow. Am open to suggestions for how to make it faster. Fedora used to use MoinMoin for their wiki but after much head-bashing gave up and switched to Mediawiki. Personally I'd advocate the same. -- Christopher Brown ___ jokosher-devel-list mailing list jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list ___ jokosher-devel-list mailing list jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list
Re: [jokosher-devel] Wiki
My googling shows most people switch from MoinMoin to MediaWiki because Moin is limited to about 32000 pages. I don't see us every getting anywhere near these limits. If we're just trying to improve speed, I don't think switching software is the answer. It's pretty easy to reconfigure what we've got to make it faster. We'd need some other reasons to switch to justify the work. Also MediaWiki lacks significant features that we use (like ACLs and Docbook support). 2009/3/12 Laszlo Pandy laszl...@gmail.com: I was gonna suggest mediawiki too, but I thought it would be too much trouble to setup yet another wiki. 2009/3/11 Christopher Brown snecklif...@gmail.com: 2009/3/11 Stuart Langridge s...@kryogenix.org: * Does either Jono or Aq know why that server is so slow? userdocs would be easier to use if it didn't take so long to load. No. That server runs quite a few sites, I admit, but the other sites aren't slow. Am open to suggestions for how to make it faster. Fedora used to use MoinMoin for their wiki but after much head-bashing gave up and switched to Mediawiki. Personally I'd advocate the same. -- Christopher Brown ___ jokosher-devel-list mailing list jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list ___ jokosher-devel-list mailing list jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list -- Jeff Ratliff (Gomer_X) ___ jokosher-devel-list mailing list jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list
Re: [jokosher-devel] Wiki
2009/3/12 Jeff Ratliff jef...@gmail.com: My googling shows most people switch from MoinMoin to MediaWiki because Moin is limited to about 32000 pages. I don't see us every getting anywhere near these limits. If we're just trying to improve speed, I don't think switching software is the answer. It's pretty easy to reconfigure what we've got to make it faster. We'd need some other reasons to switch to justify the work. Also MediaWiki lacks significant features that we use (like ACLs and Docbook support). 2009/3/12 Laszlo Pandy laszl...@gmail.com: I was gonna suggest mediawiki too, but I thought it would be too much trouble to setup yet another wiki. I would also second Jeff - MoinMoin performance is easily improvable with fastcgi version (as I use it in my work). If someone need real life administrator's support to set up it, feel free to write me/ping me trough Google Talk. Cheers, Peter. ___ jokosher-devel-list mailing list jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list
Re: [jokosher-devel] Wiki
2009/3/11 Stuart Langridge s...@kryogenix.org: * Does either Jono or Aq know why that server is so slow? userdocs would be easier to use if it didn't take so long to load. No. That server runs quite a few sites, I admit, but the other sites aren't slow. Am open to suggestions for how to make it faster. sil I did a little research and converted my home server to run MoinMoin using fastCGI. I haven't done any rigorous testing, but the wiki is noticably faster. Page loads are instant rather than taking a couple seconds. It also uses less CPU. Using CGI, heavy use would peg the processor, but now it only hits about 10% doing the same tasks. The reconfiguration only took me 10 minutes including reading the docs. The instructions are on the page 'HelpOnInstalling/FastCgi' on the wiki if you want to give it a try. Basically you : install libapache2-mod-fastcgi with aptitude replace the moin.cgi script with moin.fcg edit apache config restart apache profit!!! I'd be glad to give more input if needed. The other option is using mod_python but per the docs it substantially increases apache memory use. -- Jeff Ratliff (Gomer_X) ___ jokosher-devel-list mailing list jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list
Re: [jokosher-devel] Wiki
2009/3/11 Stuart Langridge s...@kryogenix.org: * Does either Jono or Aq know why that server is so slow? userdocs would be easier to use if it didn't take so long to load. No. That server runs quite a few sites, I admit, but the other sites aren't slow. Am open to suggestions for how to make it faster. Fedora used to use MoinMoin for their wiki but after much head-bashing gave up and switched to Mediawiki. Personally I'd advocate the same. -- Christopher Brown ___ jokosher-devel-list mailing list jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list
Re: [jokosher-devel] Wiki
2009/3/2 Laszlo Pandy laszl...@gmail.com: I have two questions: * Can I get admin access on userdocs.jokosher.org? JeffRatliff and dennisl are the only current admins[2]. I've just added you to the AdminGroup page. That should give you more access. If there's something you need to do and can't let me know and I'll look into it. There are certain things only Aq can do because he has Superuser access. * Does either Jono or Aq know why that server is so slow? userdocs would be easier to use if it didn't take so long to load. Two reasons. 1) I'm currently deleting spam. Everytime I refresh RecentChanges it loads the server. That's probably a good bit of it. 2) Moin is just slow. It's possible to tune it by using FastCGI or mod_python, etc on the server side. I've never done it, but It might be worth looking into if Aq is up to beating his head against the Moin docs. I'd be glad to help if I can. My home installation (running a newer version of Moin on a newer version of Debian) is only marginally faster. -- Jeff Ratliff (Gomer_X) ___ jokosher-devel-list mailing list jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list
Re: [jokosher-devel] Wiki
Thanks for the quick response. Good job cleaning up the spam. 2009/3/2 Jeff Ratliff jef...@gmail.com: 2009/3/2 Laszlo Pandy laszl...@gmail.com: I have two questions: * Can I get admin access on userdocs.jokosher.org? JeffRatliff and dennisl are the only current admins[2]. I've just added you to the AdminGroup page. That should give you more access. If there's something you need to do and can't let me know and I'll look into it. There are certain things only Aq can do because he has Superuser access. * Does either Jono or Aq know why that server is so slow? userdocs would be easier to use if it didn't take so long to load. Two reasons. 1) I'm currently deleting spam. Everytime I refresh RecentChanges it loads the server. That's probably a good bit of it. 2) Moin is just slow. It's possible to tune it by using FastCGI or mod_python, etc on the server side. I've never done it, but It might be worth looking into if Aq is up to beating his head against the Moin docs. I'd be glad to help if I can. My home installation (running a newer version of Moin on a newer version of Debian) is only marginally faster. -- Jeff Ratliff (Gomer_X) ___ jokosher-devel-list mailing list jokosher-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/jokosher-devel-list
