Re: [josm-dev] JCS as optional dependency

2015-06-18 Thread Paul Hartmann
On 17.06.2015 00:21, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: Would it be possible to make JCS an optional dependency and use the previous caching mechanism if it's not available? We switched to the JCS cache to address an issue we had with the old custom file based caching system: There was no global siz

Re: [josm-dev] JCS as optional dependency

2015-06-18 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
On 06/18/2015 03:57 PM, Dirk Stöcker wrote: > On Thu, 18 Jun 2015, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: > >>> No. The request is that we do not use it or make it optional. >> >> I only asked if it was possible to make it optional, to quote my initial >> email: > ... >> Thanks for continuously misrepresent

Re: [josm-dev] JCS as optional dependency

2015-06-18 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: No. The request is that we do not use it or make it optional. I only asked if it was possible to make it optional, to quote my initial email: ... Thanks for continuously misrepresenting my words. Do we speak different languages? Where's th

Re: [josm-dev] JCS as optional dependency

2015-06-18 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
> On Thu, 18 Jun 2015, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: > >>> I'm not aware of any other distribution, which tries to tell developers >>> that >>> they should not use another some open source code with valid license or >>> implement workarounds so that packagers are happy. I've never done this >>> or >

Re: [josm-dev] JCS as optional dependency

2015-06-18 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
> On Wed, 17 Jun 2015, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: > >> Do you understand the point of view of a distribution like Debian? >> >> It's clear that you don't share Debians concerns for software freedom >> and >> focus on quality. And you're not alone in that, that's why it's always >> Debian people t

Re: [josm-dev] JCS as optional dependency

2015-06-18 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: I'm not aware of any other distribution, which tries to tell developers that they should not use another some open source code with valid license or implement workarounds so that packagers are happy. I've never done this or heard of this for open

Re: [josm-dev] JCS as optional dependency

2015-06-18 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Wed, 17 Jun 2015, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: Do you understand the point of view of a distribution like Debian? It's clear that you don't share Debians concerns for software freedom and focus on quality. And you're not alone in that, that's why it's always Debian people that bring up those

Re: [josm-dev] JCS as optional dependency

2015-06-18 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Dirk Stöcker wrote: > I'm not aware of any other distribution, which tries to tell developers that > they should not use another some open source code with valid license or > implement workarounds so that packagers are happy. I've never done this or > heard of this

Re: [josm-dev] JCS as optional dependency

2015-06-18 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015, Richard wrote: While there are common practices to make software packaging friendly, it is strange when a distribution tries the explain developers how they should develop their software. Especially as Debian does not follow common guidelines itself. it is by no means only

Re: [josm-dev] JCS as optional dependency

2015-06-18 Thread Richard
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 03:30:02PM +0200, Dirk Stöcker wrote: > On Wed, 17 Jun 2015, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: > > >I wish it was that simple. While the Debian Policy does not explicitly > >require splitting out embedded dependencies, it's a very common packaging > >best practice. > > A recomm