Re: [josm-dev] sac_scale in JOSM - RFC for change of translation

2010-11-30 Thread Sebastian Klein
Fichtennadel wrote: On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Dirk Stöcker wrote: I had a look at the description and they are pretty straighforward. I see no problem to express each of the steps in 3 to 4 words. Why not simply doing so? That would fit perfectly in the selection box without needing too

Re: [josm-dev] sac_scale in JOSM - RFC for change of translation

2010-11-29 Thread Fichtennadel
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Dirk Stöcker wrote: > I had a look at the description and they are pretty straighforward. I see > no problem to express each of the steps in 3 to 4 words. Why not simply > doing so? That would fit perfectly in the selection box without needing too > much changes. >

Re: [josm-dev] sac_scale in JOSM - RFC for change of translation

2010-11-29 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Mon, 29 Nov 2010, Sebastian Klein wrote: As already mentioned, SAC scale is defined by the Swiss Alpine Club, so if you say the classification is not well suited for osm, this would mean to remove it from the presets and wait for someone to invent a better classification. No one actually

Re: [josm-dev] sac_scale in JOSM - RFC for change of translation

2010-11-27 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Sat, 27 Nov 2010, Fichtennadel wrote: If your descriptions are so misleading, then find others. OSM is no "read the wiki and when you understood it start" project. It is a "start and work" project. When your classification is misleading, so users use it wrong in your eyes, then classificatio

Re: [josm-dev] sac_scale in JOSM - RFC for change of translation

2010-11-27 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Sat, 27 Nov 2010, Sebastian Klein wrote: Well, if you work with English language, you only see grade1-6, but in other languages you get additional explanation. I know. I should have fixed this when I first translated the stuff. The German translation isn't that accurate either: Grad 1 (A

Re: [josm-dev] sac_scale in JOSM - RFC for change of translation

2010-11-27 Thread Sebastian Klein
Dirk Stöcker wrote: On Thu, 25 Nov 2010, Fichtennadel wrote: I see your point, but if you look at the template it's not possible to put a long description in the list of values for sac_scale. And the current "information" is misleading, so the idea has been "better none than wrong". There is

Re: [josm-dev] sac_scale in JOSM - RFC for change of translation

2010-11-27 Thread Fichtennadel
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Dirk Stöcker wrote: > If your descriptions are so misleading, then find others. OSM is no "read > the wiki and when you understood it start" project. It is a "start and work" > project. When your classification is misleading, so users use it wrong in > your eyes

Re: [josm-dev] sac_scale in JOSM - RFC for change of translation

2010-11-25 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/11/25 Dirk Stöcker : > Actually I oppose this solution, as it is against the basic idea of how OSM > works. IMHO the OSM solution would be to have no preset at all for sac_scale, as this is a specialist tag for alpine mountain hiking, not a general one, as far as I see it. cheers, Martin _

Re: [josm-dev] sac_scale in JOSM - RFC for change of translation

2010-11-25 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010, Fichtennadel wrote: I see your point, but if you look at the template it's not possible to put a long description in the list of values for sac_scale. And the current "information" is misleading, so the idea has been "better none than wrong". There is already a link to the w

Re: [josm-dev] sac_scale in JOSM - RFC for change of translation

2010-11-24 Thread Fichtennadel
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 9:36 PM, Stefan wrote: > You want to increase quality by removing information? Are you sure? At best > you will achieve a decrease in the sac_scale usage. > > If any, add more information to josm, not less. If the description is > misleading, then change the description. Ad

Re: [josm-dev] sac_scale in JOSM - RFC for change of translation

2010-11-24 Thread Stefan
Not that I'm qualified to comment on any change to josm. But this idea sounds quite absurd to me. You want to increase quality by removing information? Are you sure? At best you will achieve a decrease in the sac_scale usage. If any, add more information to josm, not less. If the description is

[josm-dev] sac_scale in JOSM - RFC for change of translation

2010-11-24 Thread Fichtennadel
Dear readers of OSM tagging and josm-dev lists, after some discussion on german and italian mailing lists it has been proposed to change the display values of sac_scale in JOSM's path template to T1 ... T6 (see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:sac_scale for description, http://gis.638310.n2.