In terms of interviewing a college degree tells me alot more about
commitment level and staying power than it does about knowledge
level. Craig I'm in the same boat as you (but going on 15 years as a
SE). I really liked the WSU program but now that I'm consulting and
don't have tuition
Craig,
As someone who has hired several people with and without degrees, and
with degrees from various institutions I am going to confess that I am
biased toward candidates with a degree, and with a degree from 4 year
insititutions over a degree from a professional degree program.
My
I'll throw in my .02 as I'm in the boat that you're in now. I left
college a long time ago (about 14 years to be exact), for a variety
of reasons, but the primary was I didn't really know what I wanted to
get my degree in.
2 years ago I made the conscious decision that it was time to
Man I haven't seen this many big responses on the list in a long time :)
My .02 - many of the smartest developers I've worked with in recent
years have had non-tech degrees like English, Sociology, etc.
On a related note: IMHO, quality companies who get it with regards
to quality programmers
you like to use question mark statements.?
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- Aaron.?
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I agree with Jon and Rob that a degree is not a
prerequisite to asuccessful career and doesn't say as
much about your abilities as yourexperience.� The
Oh but a critical two years it is! I can only speak for the last seven years
that I have been hiring programmers and I can say that occasionally I have
dropped someone from a pool of candidates for senior and architect positions if
they had no real 4 year degree. Often I have hired and worked
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you like to use question mark statements.?
:P
- Aaron.?
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I agree with Jon and Rob that a degree is
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For good or ill - I'll toss in my $.02:
I did recruitment for Archon/3M when I was there. I viewed a degree as a
show of commitment - not necessarily a quantification of a candidate's
background or skill-set or any of that. At the very least, you knew they
jumped through the numerous hoops and
I know for sure that I lost out on at least one job because I had a
minor instead of a major in CS. I'm still considering going for my MS
at some point, but the University wants me to reapply and take 8
classes to get my BS before applying for my Master's.
You should always be able to find jobs
Nick L. started doing that at eBlox before he left. I think it is a great
idea. There are people who seem wonderful during an interview but can't code
to save their lives.
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From: Chad Woolley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org
Sent: Friday, August
RE: The clear path to being the exception to the ceiling is to become a poster
child for an open source project or a particular technology. E.G. become a
major committer for Grails or something that demonstrates competence. Write a
book. Become the de facto speaker on a topic/technology at No
I wrote up some design docs for the Crank Crud bits and I'd love some feedback.
http://code.google.com/p/krank/wiki/CrankCrudDesignDocs
Crank Crud should work with Tapestry/OGNL, WebWork/OGNL, Swing and GWT. Of
course, being the JSF bigot that I am (I am really not), the first version
works
I'd love someone to port the sample app to Struts 2/OGNL (aka WebWork) and/or
Tapestry.
BTW Crank is divided into 12 projects as follows:
crank-coreCORE
crank-crudJava CRUD, DAO, JPA support, Criteria
DSL
crank-validation
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