[jug-discussion] Web Framework debates online

2006-06-28 Thread Thomas Hicks
There's a lot of heat being generated online about the growing plethora of web development frameworks. Often, the comments and replies to the articles are more informative and useful than the articles. Here are a couple of links I ran across this morning, for those who are interested in trying

RE: [jug-discussion] Web Framework debates online

2006-06-28 Thread Michael Oliver
As the certified and certifiable old fart in the group, here is my take. All the inventors of technology or frameworks or languages or whatever were invented/created/authored by individuals or small groups of individuals to ease some pain they were feeling or a small number of these creative

RE: [jug-discussion] Web Framework debates online

2006-06-28 Thread Rick Hightower
OS2 rules! NT sucks! Former OS2 user group member circa 1994... -Original Message- From: Michael Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 1:48 PM To: jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org Subject: RE: [jug-discussion] Web Framework debates online As the certified and

RE: [jug-discussion] Web Framework debates online

2006-06-28 Thread Michael Oliver
PRG III rules COBOL sucks...circa nineteen forgotten Michael Oliver CTO Alarius Systems LLC 6800 E. Lake Mead Blvd, #1096 Las Vegas, NV 89156 Phone:(702)866-9034 Cell:(518)378-6154 Fax:(702)974-0341 -Original Message- From: Rick Hightower [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday,

RE: [jug-discussion] Web Framework debates online

2006-06-28 Thread Michael Oliver
See I am so old my fingers don't even work right RPG III rules COBOL sucks. Michael Oliver CTO Alarius Systems LLC 6800 E. Lake Mead Blvd, #1096 Las Vegas, NV 89156 Phone:(702)866-9034 Cell:(518)378-6154 Fax:(702)974-0341 -Original Message- From: Michael Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [jug-discussion] Web Framework debates online

2006-06-28 Thread Erik Hatcher
On Jun 28, 2006, at 6:00 PM, Rick Hightower wrote: OS2 rules! NT sucks! Former OS2 user group member circa 1994... Dude... Open VMS is the shizzit! Never ever dis VMS in my presence. Dems fightin' werds! Erik

RE: [jug-discussion] Web Framework debates online

2006-06-28 Thread Rick Hightower
I wrote (and used on several projects) my own DOS BIOS based windowing system. I could do menu's in DOS with absolute positioning (pop up menus where the user right clicked the screen). I also wrote my own TSR, but an early version somehow erased my writable BIOS of my brand spanking new 386