Of course if we do get the JUG setup as a non-prof with members we
might be able to pay for meeting space and most likely we could get
snacks ;-).
Just a thought.
-warner
On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 09:49 PM, Tim Colson wrote:
plus I'm still waiting to hear about my "Membership" prop
Heat is difficult. It would take a lot to get our systems manager to
raise the temperature of that room. And he would demand payment in
Guinness. :)
Simon.
Tim Colson wrote:
plus I'm still waiting to hear about my "Membership" proposal ;-).
If membership fees enable more heat and snacks
>plus I'm still waiting to hear about my "Membership" proposal ;-).
If membership fees enable more heat and snacks at the meetings, then I'm
all for em'.
Tim
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Hi all,
It recently came to my attention that not everyone knows how this list
works, I apologize for not making this clear. We also don't have any
kind of welcome message, unfortunately I cannot change that right now
(I'll have to talk with the sysadmin). So, I will clarify this now, to
clear
Wednesday, November 13, 2002, 6:14:23 PM, you wrote:
>> 3) I don't have an intimate knowledge of EJB
LN> Would anyone like to volunteer instead? Rick Hightower?
I'd be happy to represent EJB in a comparison of different O/R tools.
We're using it very successfully and are very productive with i
On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 08:29 PM, Lesiecki Nicholas wrote:
See more below:
--- Warner Onstine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 06:14 PM, Lesiecki Nicholas wrote:
Warner says:
I'd prefer not to [cover EJB/CMP] for a few reasons:
1) While I know tha
> Nick ( or anyone else ) have you worked with EJB 2.x stuff?
Yep, it's all we use at eBlox. We use Resin as our EJB and servlet
container and it has served us very well. The crucial savings comes through
the use of CMR and EJB-QL. We use local entity beans so performance hasn't
been an issue for
See more below:
--- Warner Onstine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 06:14 PM, Lesiecki Nicholas wrote:
>
> >
> >> Warner says:
> >> I'd prefer not to [cover EJB/CMP] for a few reasons:
> >> 1) While I know that it is a kind of O/R it is not the kind I am
> >> in
Warner Onstine wrote:
> A, someone from Sun on the list (hides head in shame ;-).
Apologies for the sneak attack -- no way anyone could know I lurk here.
And, we all find Dilbert funny for a reason -- companies and organizations
do sometimes do things that at least look silly even if in fact
> Well, [Warner] personally have some issues with EJB ;-). If I saw a
good
> presentation on it maybe I'd change my mind.
I agree with you, especially with the 1.1 spec, but I did see a
compelling preso on 2.x last year at JavaOne...Tyler Jewell from BEA
gave a talk on EJB 2.x and fired me up t
A, someone from Sun on the list (hides head in shame ;-).
On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 06:16 PM, Rob Gingell wrote:
For those of you who don't know SM - stands for Service Mark. Now why
in the world would Sun put a service mark on this?
Because it embeds a trademark.
Yeah, I reali
On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 06:14 PM, Lesiecki Nicholas wrote:
Warner says:
I'd prefer not to [cover EJB/CMP] for a few reasons:
1) While I know that it is a kind of O/R it is not the kind I am
interested in at the moment
What kind are you interested in?
Well, I personally have som
>For those of you who don't know SM - stands for Service Mark. Now why
>in the world would Sun put a service mark on this?
Because it embeds a trademark.
Thank the lawyers -- both the ones that are overly protective but of course
also the ones who defend clients who abuse trademarks when you do
> Warner says:
> I'd prefer not to [cover EJB/CMP] for a few reasons:
> 1) While I know that it is a kind of O/R it is not the kind I am
> interested in at the moment
What kind are you interested in?
> 2) It isn't standalone - it requires an EJB container
Point taken, but every framework requi
I just got the latest Java Developer Connection in my mail box and
noticed this:
Read about the next evolution of the Java Community ProcessSM (JCPSM),
version 2.5. (October 31, 2002)
For those of you who don't know SM - stands for Service Mark. Now why
in the world would Sun put a service mark
On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 03:52 PM, Lesiecki Nicholas wrote:
+1.
But I'd add EJB/CMP if you're familiar enough with it to compare it to
the
others.
I'd prefer not to for a few reasons:
1) While I know that it is a kind of O/R it is not the kind I am
interested in at the moment
2) I
On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 03:47 PM, Tim Colson wrote:
I would like to offer a presentation for December's topic covering
Object-Relational mapping tools.
An emphatic +1 :-)
Some of the tools I would be reviewing will be:
Castor (castor.exolab.org)
Hibernate (http://hibernate.source
+1.
But I'd add EJB/CMP if you're familiar enough with it to compare it to the
others.
cheers,
nick
--- Tim Colson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I would like to offer a presentation for December's topic covering
> > Object-Relational mapping tools.
>
> An emphatic +1 :-)
>
> > Some of the too
> I would like to offer a presentation for December's topic covering
> Object-Relational mapping tools.
An emphatic +1 :-)
> Some of the tools I would be reviewing will be:
> Castor (castor.exolab.org)
> Hibernate (http://hibernate.sourceforge.net/)
> Torque (jakarta.apache.org/turbine/torque)
>
Warner,
I have an example schema that I would like you to use.
It is small and easy, and I have the DDL scripts for it already.
Info on the schema can be found here (nice picture too)
http://www.rickhightower.com/ejbcmpcmrtut.html
Source code for the SQL DDL can be found here...
http://www.rick
Hi all,
I would like to offer a presentation for December's topic covering
Object-Relational mapping tools.
Some of the tools I would be reviewing will be:
Castor (castor.exolab.org)
Hibernate (http://hibernate.sourceforge.net/)
Torque (jakarta.apache.org/turbine/torque)
OJB (jakarta.apache.org/o
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