Re: [jug-discussion] App Dev Framework choices

2006-06-24 Thread Drew Davidson
And in OGNL it's similar to apply an _expression_ to any collection, enumeration or iterator: parent.children.{ #this.doSomething() } or you can filter any collection, enumeration or iterator using filteredItems = parent.children.{? name.startsWith("foo") } This is what Buddha would have

Re: [jug-discussion] App Dev Framework choices

2006-06-24 Thread josh zeidner
Just curious, what sites have you done using RoR? -jmz --- Erik Hatcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 22, 2006, at 12:44 PM, Chad Woolley wrote: Can't you feel the peace and contentment in this block of code? Ruby is the language Buddha would have programmed in. Yeah, being

Re: [jug-discussion] App Dev Framework choices

2006-06-24 Thread josh zeidner
sarcasm Its no where near the level of peace and contentment that ruby offers. There's just something so darn cool about Ruby I cant seem to put my finger on it. Maybe its the cool graphics. Maybe its the videos and the fact that ruby programmers use Macs. Maybe its that it hasent showed up

Re: [jug-discussion] App Dev Framework choices

2006-06-24 Thread josh zeidner
Hi Erik, After having worked with countless web frameworks and dozens of languages I will say this: What you gain in development effort and 'syntactic sugar' you lose in performance. As all these sites prop up I just give it a year or two before people start marketing themselves as

Re: [jug-discussion] App Dev Framework choices

2006-06-24 Thread Chad Woolley
Well, lets be empirical. Here's a real Rails site: http://communitywalk.com communitywalk.com is a RoR site that was developed at my current employer, usually by one or two pairs at a time, with most of the work done by the site owner (who is an employee too). I didn't work on it much (was

Re: [jug-discussion] App Dev Framework choices

2006-06-24 Thread Erik Hatcher
On Jun 24, 2006, at 5:15 PM, josh zeidner wrote: After having worked with countless web frameworks and dozens of languages I will say this: What you gain in development effort and 'syntactic sugar' you lose in performance. But Ruby is not just a sugar coating of syntax. As all these

Re: [jug-discussion] App Dev Framework choices

2006-06-24 Thread josh zeidner
--- Erik Hatcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 24, 2006, at 5:15 PM, josh zeidner wrote: After having worked with countless web frameworks and dozens of languages I will say this: What you gain in development effort and 'syntactic sugar' you lose in performance. But Ruby

Re: [jug-discussion] App Dev Framework choices

2006-06-24 Thread Chad Woolley
On 6/24/06, josh zeidner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is it that every Ruby expert that I run into has absolutely nothing to show? I'm definitely not an expert, but I just showed you http://communitywalk.com in another post. http://zubio.com is another one we have done. There are a couple