RE: [jug-discussion] Flex 2.0 vs Dojo vs Google API
OK HERE GOES PUBLICLY SINCE PRIVATELY DIDN'T AVOID A FLAME WAR, I MICHAEL OLIVER DID OFFENSIVELY INSERT MY QUESTION IN TIM'S THREAD AND I APOLOGIZE! YOUR QUESTION WAS NOT LESS IMPORTANT THAN MY QUESTION. Mike... simmer down and slow down, dude. You emailed publicly and privately at the same time, so I justreplied to both. And I didn't flame... I would have called you something nasty if it was a flame. Have a look, I just did a little explaining why I thought it was uncool -- about a 1.5 on a scale of of 1 to 10 of flame hotness. ha! I'm just fine down here in Tucson, it's a beatiful day. ;-) Back to the topic of *this mesg*: as I said, personally, I don't really care to argue the merits of Flex/Dojo/Google API. They do different things. I think folks should use whatever item or combo fits their needs. -Timo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [jug-discussion] Flex 2.0 vs Dojo vs Google API
On 9/21/06 12:03, Tim Colson (tcolson) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I specifically asked if based on the new free licenses anyone is considering using Flex as a front end with Java. I'm not interested in DOJO or Google API or Laszlo or Project Foo. Well at the risk of being accused of being a hijacker and being assaulted by ALLCAPS what would I get from Flex2.0 1cpu license that I can't get from Laszlo which is not only free to put on as many cpus as you want but is also open source and not left to pricing whims of Adobe (free today - $$$ tomorrow)? peace... Steven - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [jug-discussion] Flex 2.0 vs Dojo vs Google API
Quoting Timno I didn't ask permission... I think folks should use whatever item or combo fits their needs. -Timo My question is to precisely to find out what salient features of these are, from anyone that DOES want to discuss them so that I don't have to learn all of them to choose which one's merits the effort. Opinions ARE solicited and I have no value judgements other than I have played a little with Dojo and found it easy enough with a very active community and one of my developers prefers the Google AJAX toolkit and yet another likes Laszlo (but he is my Cold Fusion guy so he doesn't matter)/humor bad tag match for effect. Ollie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [jug-discussion] Flex 2.0 vs Dojo vs Google API
Thanks. Michael Oliver CTO Alarius Systems LLC 6800 E. Lake Mead Blvd, #1096 Las Vegas, NV 89156 Phone:(702)866-9034 Cell:(518)378-6154 Fax:(702)974-0341 -Original Message- From: Steven Elliott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 1:44 PM To: jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] Flex 2.0 vs Dojo vs Google API On 9/21/06 12:03, Tim Colson (tcolson) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I specifically asked if based on the new free licenses anyone is considering using Flex as a front end with Java. I'm not interested in DOJO or Google API or Laszlo or Project Foo. Well at the risk of being accused of being a hijacker and being assaulted by ALLCAPS what would I get from Flex2.0 1cpu license that I can't get from Laszlo which is not only free to put on as many cpus as you want but is also open source and not left to pricing whims of Adobe (free today - $$$ tomorrow)? peace... Steven - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [jug-discussion] Flex 2.0 vs Dojo vs Google API
Well at the risk of being accused of being a hijacker and being assaulted by ALLCAPS what would I get from Flex2.0 1cpu license that I can't get from Laszlo which is not only free to put on as many cpus as you want but is also open source and not left to pricing whims of Adobe (free today - $$$ tomorrow)? Ha...this is Mike's thread - folks can have smackdown they want between the threehmm... Laszlo isn't in there. grin Flex -- *without* the server component, is free for any use. It's not open source, so that could be a showstopper. The server component does a bunch of stuff you may or may not find useful, overview/details: http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/productinfo/overview/ http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/dataservices/ I did a proof of concept using the server component for 1.5...and I found it to really speed up development by handling some of the drudgery of the RMI over the wire. An interesting aspect of Flex and the Google API to me is that they both seem to be trying to present a standard programming paradigm. ex. objects and action listeners that appeal to a Java developer more than a javascript/html person. Have a look at a quick demo with code/MXML. http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/quickstart/coding_with_mxml_and_actions cript/ Flex has a lot of widgets, including charts, that are fairly mature...and lots of solid second generation documentation and samples. It's not without flaws, but I keep coming back to it as a compelling option. The Google API is slick too, and DOJO has some great demo's... but lately I've been really drawn to the responsiveness and features in Yahoo's Flex-based maps (http://maps.yahoo.com). Tim -Tim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [jug-discussion] Flex 2.0 vs Dojo vs Google API
Bingo we have a winner and not bad for someone that doesn't want to discuss it...thanks. Michael Oliver CTO Alarius Systems LLC 6800 E. Lake Mead Blvd, #1096 Las Vegas, NV 89156 Phone:(702)866-9034 Cell:(518)378-6154 Fax:(702)974-0341 -Original Message- From: Tim Colson (tcolson) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 2:50 PM To: jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org Subject: RE: [jug-discussion] Flex 2.0 vs Dojo vs Google API Well at the risk of being accused of being a hijacker and being assaulted by ALLCAPS what would I get from Flex2.0 1cpu license that I can't get from Laszlo which is not only free to put on as many cpus as you want but is also open source and not left to pricing whims of Adobe (free today - $$$ tomorrow)? Ha...this is Mike's thread - folks can have smackdown they want between the threehmm... Laszlo isn't in there. grin Flex -- *without* the server component, is free for any use. It's not open source, so that could be a showstopper. The server component does a bunch of stuff you may or may not find useful, overview/details: http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/productinfo/overview/ http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/dataservices/ I did a proof of concept using the server component for 1.5...and I found it to really speed up development by handling some of the drudgery of the RMI over the wire. An interesting aspect of Flex and the Google API to me is that they both seem to be trying to present a standard programming paradigm. ex. objects and action listeners that appeal to a Java developer more than a javascript/html person. Have a look at a quick demo with code/MXML. http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/quickstart/coding_with_mxml_and_actions cript/ Flex has a lot of widgets, including charts, that are fairly mature...and lots of solid second generation documentation and samples. It's not without flaws, but I keep coming back to it as a compelling option. The Google API is slick too, and DOJO has some great demo's... but lately I've been really drawn to the responsiveness and features in Yahoo's Flex-based maps (http://maps.yahoo.com). Tim -Tim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [jug-discussion] Flex 2.0 vs Dojo vs Google API
--- Steven Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/21/06 12:03, Tim Colson (tcolson) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I specifically asked if based on the new free licenses anyone is considering using Flex as a front end with Java. I'm not interested in DOJO or Google API or Laszlo or Project Foo. Well at the risk of being accused of being a hijacker and being assaulted by ALLCAPS what would I get from Flex2.0 1cpu license that I can't get from Laszlo which is not only free to put on as many cpus as you want but is also open source and not left to pricing whims of Adobe (free today - $$$ tomorrow)? interest++; -jmz ps. damn it takes a lot of work to get a question resolved around here. ill say one thing, places like wikipedia work because there are a set of codes that are followed. given, it has its problems, it is one of the more effective venues. and don't get me wrong, you guys are a load of laughs and Ill be sure to consider contacting you for any catastrophic project failures in the future. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
