On 10/25/23 21:02, Richard McGovern via juniper-nsp wrote:
I tried to get my daughter (now Sr at Uni) to look at this field. Her response
was, “I don’t want to do anything like what you do”
At the risk of derailing this thread, one item that is generally
programmed into an agenda of
I tried to get my daughter (now Sr at Uni) to look at this field. Her response
was, “I don’t want to do anything like what you do”
Richard McGovern
Sr Sales Engineer, Juniper Networks
978-618-3342
I’d rather be lucky than good, as I know I am not good
I don’t make the news, I just report it
You should not need a license for MOST features to work, for example L3
Routing, EVPN, etc. It depend a little on the exact platform and
feature/function. MACSec is one where you “may” need a license to activate, to
test/etc. In general, currently licenses are not required for most features to
WPI in Worcester, MA is also looking, as are [too] many others.
Rich
Richard McGovern
Sr Sales Engineer, Juniper Networks
978-618-3342
I’d rather be lucky than good, as I know I am not good
I don’t make the news, I just report it
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From: J Findley
Date: Wednesday,
On 25.10.2023 19:20, Richard McGovern via juniper-nsp wrote:
Crist, not quite 100% accurate. Perpetual License are permeant and last
forever, but with newer Flex License structure also require a SW Support
Contract. Subscription based licenses of course expire at end of the
subscription
A great story for the power of Apstra [in the DC], which is also multi-vendor!!
Richard McGovern
Sr Sales Engineer, Juniper Networks
978-618-3342
I’d rather be lucky than good, as I know I am not good
I don’t make the news, I just report it
Juniper Business Use Only
On 10/25/23, 12:48 PM,
Crist, not quite 100% accurate. Perpetual License are permeant and last
forever, but with newer Flex License structure also require a SW Support
Contract. Subscription based licenses of course expire at end of the
subscription date, but do include SW Support.
Trial and Demo licenses always
I agree with your view 100%, but that sort of decision is well above my pay
grade. I’d say yes to sort of match EX/QFX/etc. Also see the last line in my
signature
Purchasing a new MX without some license, is basically purchasing a boat
anchor! Within Juniper Configurator tool, you can
Richard-
Sorry if this is off topic, but what's the use case for Base license on an MX?
Is it just to align the name of the licensing with EX and the ilk? Are there
significant customers using hardware as whitebox? We've been Juniper customer
since the m40 days and always routed with them.
Re: "In your specific case, the ports never worked, you had to procure a
license, and the license never dies."
Here's a cool story. At some point I migrated the perpetual 10G FPC2 SFP+ port
license on our MX104s from the "request system license add" mantra to "set
system license" so it was
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On 10/25/2023 7:50 AM, Richard McGovern wrote:
Aaron, what version of Junos are you using on your MX304? This should
NOT happen and if it did/is, then I suggest you open a Case with JTAC.
Minimally your account team should be able to get you a temp license
to work-around this
On 10/25/23 16:00, Gert Doering wrote:
What is "high-touch edge" for you?
Most things we could come up with do work, with the notable exception
of MAC accounting (or inclusion of MAC addresses in sflow/ipfix) - but
here the ASR9000 is one of the few platforms on the market that can
actually
I think the key here is that the OP had evaluation licenses. Those are
timed and things stop working when they expire. Purchased license are
permanent and do not expire.
On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 6:18 AM Mark Tinka via juniper-nsp <
juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net> wrote:
>
>
> On 10/25/23 14:42, Saku
No problem. Just FYI, but “Flex License” is often mis-understood within
Juniper, never mind outside
Richard McGovern
Sr Sales Engineer, Juniper Networks
978-618-3342
I’d rather be lucky than good, as I know I am not good
I don’t make the news, I just report it
Juniper Business Use Only
Hi,
On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 03:44:57PM +0200, Mark Tinka via juniper-nsp wrote:
> > Did I mention Arista is not spending valuable engineer time on all this
> > license shit, but on actually making great products?
>
> What is the current experience of the code for IP/MPLS functions that go
>
Yes indeed having dhcp-relay by default trigger scale-l2tp -- a licensed
subscriber management feature -- is quite annoying.
"set forwarding-options dhcp-relay forward-only" will turn off that
licensing requirement. IIRC there were scalpel knobs to accomplish the
same, we opted for the hammer
On 10/25/23 15:36, Gert Doering via juniper-nsp wrote:
There goes another vendor...
Now, if the base price would have been *lowered* by the amount the
L3 features of a *MX router* cost extra now, this might have been an
option... but for my understanding, the base MX304 is already insanely
Hi,
On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 12:50:33PM +, Richard McGovern via juniper-nsp
wrote:
> The introduction of newer (well now like 2 years old) Flex licensing
> all newly purchased MX (which would include ALL MX304s) support
> only L2 in the base (free) license. For any L3 (even static) you
>
On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 03:12:29PM +0200, Mark Tinka via juniper-nsp wrote:
> On 10/25/23 10:57, Sebastian Wiesinger via juniper-nsp wrote:
> > Yeah it depends. Our MX204 also needed licenses for subscriber
> > managment. Some options would produce a license warning and some other
> > stuff just
On 10/25/23 14:42, Saku Ytti via juniper-nsp wrote:
But we can reject licenses that expire in operation and cause an
outage. That I think is a very reasonable ask. I know that IOS XE for
example will do this, you run out of license and your box breaks. I
swapped out from CRS1k to ASR1k
On 10/25/23 10:57, Sebastian Wiesinger via juniper-nsp wrote:
Yeah it depends. Our MX204 also needed licenses for subscriber
managment. Some options would produce a license warning and some other
stuff just failed silently which was worse. Also noone at Juniper
seemed to know WHICH licenses
On 10/25/23 08:01, Saku Ytti via juniper-nsp wrote:
Juniper had assured me multiple times that they strategically have
decided to NEVER do this. That it's an actual decision they've
considered at the highest level, that they will not downgrade devices
in operation. I guess 'reboot' is not
Aaron, what version of Junos are you using on your MX304? This should NOT
happen and if it did/is, then I suggest you open a Case with JTAC. Minimally
your account team should be able to get you a temp license to work-around this
until resolved.
The introduction of newer (well now like 2 years
Am 25.10.2023 um 14:25 schrieb Aaron1:
Years ago I had to get a license to make my 10g interfaces work on my MX104
If we are going into the HW direction and not features. Yes, that is
correct MX104 had some Port based licensing.
There was also MX5 -> MX10 -> MX40 -> MX80
And some not so
On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 at 15:26, Aaron1 via juniper-nsp
wrote:
> Years ago I had to get a license to make my 10g interfaces work on my MX104
I think we need to be careful in what we are saying.
We can't reject licences out right, that's not a fair ask and it won't happen.
But we can reject
Years ago I had to get a license to make my 10g interfaces work on my MX104
Aaron
> On Oct 25, 2023, at 5:03 AM, Tobias Heister via juniper-nsp
> wrote:
>
> Am 25.10.2023 um 11:57 schrieb Xavier Beaudouin via juniper-nsp:
>>> So there are a couple of enforced licenses even on MX ... and they
Am 25.10.2023 um 11:57 schrieb Xavier Beaudouin via juniper-nsp:
So there are a couple of enforced licenses even on MX ... and they have
always been enforced. Subscriber MGMT is one of these features.
Well I remember wanted to use dhcp server on a MX204 for a local lan used
only...
for local
Hello,
> So there are a couple of enforced licenses even on MX ... and they have
> always been enforced. Subscriber MGMT is one of these features.
Well I remember wanted to use dhcp server on a MX204 for a local lan used
only...
for local administrators... that required some license I didn't
Am 25.10.2023 um 08:01 schrieb Saku Ytti via juniper-nsp:
On Tue, 24 Oct 2023 at 22:21, Aaron Gould via juniper-nsp
wrote:
My MX304 trial license expired last night, after rebooting the MX304,
various protocols no longer work. This seems more than just
honor-based... ospf, ldp, etc, no
* Karl Gerhard via juniper-nsp [2023-10-24 11:18]:
> On 18/10/2023 18:55, Tom Beecher via juniper-nsp wrote:
> > Juniper licensing is honor based. Won't impact functionality, will
> > just grump at you on commits.
> It depends. MACSEC on EX and QFX first had a license warning and a
> permanent
On Tue, 24 Oct 2023 at 22:21, Aaron Gould via juniper-nsp
wrote:
> My MX304 trial license expired last night, after rebooting the MX304,
> various protocols no longer work. This seems more than just
> honor-based... ospf, ldp, etc, no longer function. This is new to me;
> that Juniper is
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