Re: [j-nsp] Using a QFX5100 without QFabric?

2017-10-24 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 24 octobre 2017 14:29 -0400, Andrey Kostin  : > QFX5100 are good as L2 devices for aggregation, we use them in > virtual-chassis. But be careful with planning any L3 services on > them. First, don't put public IPs on them because TCAM for filters is > tiny and programmed in a tricky for underst

Re: [j-nsp] EVPN + QinQ, individual bridge-domains for CVID's

2017-10-24 Thread Andrew Thrift
This is on MX boxes running 15.1R6 I suspect I am going to end up implementing a hack to get this working ! On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 4:16 AM, Alain Hebert wrote: > Hi, > > Depending of your relation with your local JNP resellers. > > You could get vMX, vQFX and vSRX and build yourse

Re: [j-nsp] Using a QFX5100 without QFabric?

2017-10-24 Thread Alain Hebert
    Without ASCII art:         We have P(MX), a P(vMX), a PE1 (QFX5100), and PE2 (QFX5100), all with ISIS, MPLS, RSVP/LDP, BGP underlay, cluster and multipath.         The (EVPN) broadcast is handled by the P's but once that discovery is done, the traffic passes between the PE's without bounc

Re: [j-nsp] Using a QFX5100 without QFabric?

2017-10-24 Thread Alain Hebert
    Hi,     We have a stub vrf with Transit on them, the solution is a very good set of filters on lo0 input. - Alain Hebertaheb...@pubnix.net PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 Tel: 514-990-5911 http://www.p

Re: [j-nsp] Using a QFX5100 without QFabric?

2017-10-24 Thread Andrey Kostin
QFX5100 are good as L2 devices for aggregation, we use them in virtual-chassis. But be careful with planning any L3 services on them. First, don't put public IPs on them because TCAM for filters is tiny and programmed in a tricky for understanding way. As a result everything that doesn't fit in

Re: [j-nsp] Using a QFX5100 without QFabric?

2017-10-24 Thread Joe Freeman
How do you handle 10G port licensing on the 5048? That gets expensive quickly. I've got about 75 qfx's deployed as PE devices right now because of the 5048 port licenses. The major limitation of the qfx as a PE device is that it doesn't support VPLS. It does however do EVPN over vxlan, which can b

Re: [j-nsp] EVPN + QinQ, individual bridge-domains for CVID's

2017-10-24 Thread Alain Hebert
    Hi,     Depending of your relation with your local JNP resellers.     You could get vMX, vQFX and vSRX and build yourself a lab using (ESXi in our case).     In the past vMX wasn't working correctly for EVPN but 17.x is working with our MX240+vMX+QFX lab.     But we're staying away fro

Re: [j-nsp] EVPN + QinQ, individual bridge-domains for CVID's

2017-10-24 Thread Aaron Gould
Since you mentioned it Evpn in lsys ? I don't think that works. If so please tell me it does so I can try it. I really would like to know if I can run EVPN in LSYS on MX104... let me know if I need to simply change to a different version of JUNOS and I'll do it. [edit] r2@lab-mx104:r2# s

Re: [j-nsp] Using a QFX5100 without QFabric?

2017-10-24 Thread Aaron Gould
Not to change subject too much, but, In case you are wanting to extend your mpls cloud (I'm assuming your MX core is mpls-enabled) further out into the aggregation/access edge, you could go with the qfx-5100 cousin... acx5048. I've been pretty pleased with them. I've deployed 30 or 40 of these now

Re: [j-nsp] EVPN + QinQ, individual bridge-domains for CVID's

2017-10-24 Thread Alain Hebert
    Expected hack with QFX5100     PE with CVID <-> Trunk Port <-> P or PE with EVPN     Or Logical System, but we stop using those on MXs after some crashes in the past. - Alain Hebertaheb...@pubnix.net PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 26770 Be

Re: [j-nsp] Using a QFX5100 without QFabric?

2017-10-24 Thread Matt Freitag
Karl, we're also looking at QFX5100-48S switches for our aggregation. I actually have one in place doing aggregation and routing and the only "big" change I found is the DHCP forwarder config is not remotely similar to the forwarding-options helpers bootp config we've been using to forward DHCP on

[j-nsp] Using a QFX5100 without QFabric?

2017-10-24 Thread Karl Gerhard
Hello we're thinking about buying a few QFX5100 as they are incredibly cheap on the refurbished market - sometimes even cheaper than a much older EX4550. Are there any caveats when using the QFX5100-48S as a normal aggregation switch without QFabric? We have a pretty basic setup of Access (EX),