Re: [j-nsp] JUNOS and MX Trio cards

2010-07-01 Thread Mark Tinka
On Wednesday 30 June 2010 05:28:39 pm Derick Winkworth wrote: I understand things will get much, much better in 10.3 thru 10.5. Without any confirmation from anyone at Juniper, I suspect the same. This would be a mirror experiences with JUNOS 9, where anything pre-9.3 was really terrible.

Re: [j-nsp] JUNOS and MX Trio cards

2010-07-01 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday 01 July 2010 05:27:26 am Joe Hughes wrote: I began an exercise a few months back researching the options available to replace some of our Cisco gear with Juniper. At the time - it was looking like a combination of the M7i and the EX series switches - We implemented this combo

Re: [j-nsp] JUNOS and MX Trio cards

2010-06-30 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 06:50:49PM -0700, Derick Winkworth wrote: So basically, this stalled route issue has been going on for so long, that its truthful to say that Juniper probably doesn't think its important to fix? or they don't care? 6 years by my count. The weird thing is I'm

Re: [j-nsp] JUNOS and MX Trio cards

2010-06-30 Thread Marcin Kucharczyk
On Wednesday 30 of June 2010 03:50:49 Derick Winkworth wrote: I wonder what their official line is. Might be similar to their official line with respect to the manufacturing issue with the EX series, where so many ASICs are just bad... I think they have some code in JUNOS now that detects the

Re: [j-nsp] JUNOS and MX Trio cards

2010-06-30 Thread Andrey Zarechansky
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 06:50:49PM -0700, Derick Winkworth wrote: [dd] How unfortunate. I wonder of Alca-Lu can do better. Lord knows Cisco could care less about code quality. surely some networking vendor must give a sh*t. Small brief from our ALU equipment evaluation: BGP:4-byte

Re: [j-nsp] JUNOS and MX Trio cards

2010-06-30 Thread Derick Winkworth
# 6 years by my count. The weird thing is I'm constantly running into plenty of really smart competent people at Juniper who do want to help, they just have no idea that things are really this broken, or they aren't empowered to do anything about it. I guess you could call that

Re: [j-nsp] JUNOS and MX Trio cards

2010-06-30 Thread Derick Winkworth
hahahaha nice! From: Andrey Zarechansky zor...@fr.kiev.ua To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Sent: Wed, June 30, 2010 3:26:50 AM Subject: Re: [j-nsp] JUNOS and MX Trio cards On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 06:50:49PM -0700, Derick Winkworth wrote: [dd] How

Re: [j-nsp] JUNOS and MX Trio cards

2010-06-30 Thread Chris Evans
! From: Andrey Zarechansky zor...@fr.kiev.ua To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Sent: Wed, June 30, 2010 3:26:50 AM Subject: Re: [j-nsp] JUNOS and MX Trio cards On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 06:50:49PM -0700, Derick Winkworth wrote: [dd] How unfortunate. I wo

Re: [j-nsp] JUNOS and MX Trio cards

2010-06-30 Thread Phil Bedard
When were you evaulating it? I think both of those two features have been available for some time now, almost 2 years. Not to say they do not have their own set of issues along with Juniper and Cisco... Phil On Jun 30, 2010, at 4:26 AM, Andrey Zarechansky wrote: On Tue, Jun 29, 2010

Re: [j-nsp] JUNOS and MX Trio cards

2010-06-30 Thread Andrey Zarechansky
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 09:54:16AM -0400, Phil Bedard wrote: When were you evaulating it? I think both of those two features have been available for some time now, almost 2 years. Less than a half year. What we had in the lab: - few boxes 7750 SR-7, IOM2 based hw, running TiMOS

Re: [j-nsp] JUNOS and MX Trio cards

2010-06-30 Thread Joe Hughes
On 30 June 2010 15:49, Chris Evans chrisccnpsp...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any way that someone could tell me how to reproduce the stalled route issue?  How do I see if is happening etc? We are about to purchase some mx's to replace our m series and would love to nail this. The question of

Re: [j-nsp] JUNOS and MX Trio cards

2010-06-29 Thread Mark Tinka
On Tuesday 29 June 2010 04:05:55 pm Richard A Steenbergen wrote: So far things aren't looking good. Very, very nasty, indeed. Hope you have JTAC running around on this. Would be glad to hear what comes of it. Nasty, indeed. On my end, while away on tour, Juniper came back and took back a

Re: [j-nsp] JUNOS and MX Trio cards

2010-06-29 Thread Derick Winkworth
When you say 'transit session' what do you mean exactly?  Also disappointed to hear about the bugs.  Is the stuck-in-pending issue easily reproducible?  I have read some of your past  posts, but recently it sounds like this can be reproduced without a lot of effort?

Re: [j-nsp] JUNOS and MX Trio cards

2010-06-29 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 08:37:20AM -0700, Derick Winkworth wrote: When you say 'transit session' what do you mean exactly?? Also disappointed to hear about the bugs.? Transit (n): An EBGP session where an external ASN sends you a full copy of the global routing table, usually in exchange for

Re: [j-nsp] JUNOS and MX Trio cards

2010-06-29 Thread Derick Winkworth
networking vendor must give a sh*t. From: Richard A Steenbergen r...@e-gerbil.net To: Derick Winkworth dwinkwo...@att.net Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Sent: Tue, June 29, 2010 2:59:55 PM Subject: Re: [j-nsp] JUNOS and MX Trio cards