Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this!

On Donnerstag, 31. März 2016 23:12:15 CEST Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > I'd suggest that we let the brainstorming phase last until Friday and then > > start discussing the ideas collected on that Wiki page. > > two days is quite short (I just saw it right now). > Let's have a week at least, i.e.

Re: [kde-community] Looking for new doors to open for KDE

On Montag, 11. April 2016 23:39:57 CEST Agustin Benito (toscalix) wrote: > Hi all, > > I was unsure if this is the the right list for this since I a not > subscribed to plasma ML.. If not, apologies. > > The last few months I have been working on a project that could be an > interesting

Re: [kde-community] KDE e.V. Community Report for 1st Half of 2015

On Freitag, 8. April 2016 19:31:18 CEST Sandro Andrade wrote: > On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Clemens Toennies > > wrote: > > On Freitag, 8. April 2016 02:47:12 CEST Sandro Andrade wrote: > >>> I'm happy to inform you that we have just published the KDE e.V > >>>

Re: [kde-community] KDE e.V. Community Report for 1st Half of 2015

On Freitag, 8. April 2016 02:47:12 CEST Sandro Andrade wrote: > Hi there, Hi Sandro, > I'm happy to inform you that we have just published the KDE e.V > Community Report for 1st half of 2015: Thank you for doing this... > http://ev.kde.org/reports/ev-quarterly-2014_Q4.pdf ...this is the

Re: [kde-community] Our new project metadata system

On Freitag, 1. April 2016 21:54:10 CEST Ben Cooksley wrote: > Out of curiosity, how are the Appstream files accessed by tools such > as the various app centers? > I presume some kind of repository exists? Nope, actually distributions extract the appstream data from the source code of each

[kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this!

Hi everyone, now that we've finally agreed on a vision for KDE [1] and have that out of the way, we can fully focus on how we want work towards that vision. Alex has already set up a Wiki page for brainstorming notes [2], so it would be great if everyone who has opinions or ideas about how we

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - final version

On Dienstag, 22. März 2016 17:24:40 CEST Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2016-03-15, David Jarvie wrote: > >>> > "A world in which everyone enjoys freedom and privacy and has > >> > >>control > >> > >>> > over their digital life." > > "A world in which everyone has control over their

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - final version

On Samstag, 19. März 2016 21:52:09 CET Michael Brade wrote: > Am 19.03.2016 um 21:30 schrieb Alexander Neundorf: > > On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 22:53:03 David Jarvie wrote: > > ... > > > >> This may read a bit better, although it does slightly alter the emphasis: > >> > >> "A world in which

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - final version

On Montag, 14. März 2016 22:39:13 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > On Monday, March 14, 2016 14:58:57 Lydia Pintscher wrote: > ... > > > * collect input for our mission statement. Alexander and others have > > already collected a lot of that. I have created a page on-wiki for > > this here:

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

On Montag, 22. Februar 2016 23:05:49 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > On Monday, February 15, 2016 18:36:18 Lydia Pintscher wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > A bit less than two weeks ago we sent the first draft for the > > community vision for KDE. We have gotten a lot of useful feedback and > >

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

On Freitag, 26. Februar 2016 18:58:49 CET Alexander Dymo wrote: > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Jos Poortvliet wrote: > > Note that our slogan is: "A safe home for all your data" > > "Access & share your files, calendars, contacts, mail & more from any > > device, on your

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

> KDE: control your digital life and > KDE - Be in control of your digital life. are both fantastic taglines, but not really visions. They sound like KDE already allows that _today_, it's not talking about a goal for the future to aim for. We should keep one of those as a tagline for KDE,

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

On Mittwoch, 17. Februar 2016 12:06:06 CET you wrote: > On Wednesday, 17 February 2016 12:46:26 GMT Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > On Dienstag, 16. Februar 2016 21:20:25 CET Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > > > I think it could be stated more gracefully. How about: > > > > &g

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

On Dienstag, 16. Februar 2016 21:20:25 CET Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > I think it could be stated more gracefully. How about: > > KDE aspires to a world where all users of our technology experience > freedom, privacy and control over their digital lives. But doesn't that mean we don't care how

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

hat's what the mission is for. > > On Monday, February 15, 2016 22:27:14 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > > If, say, 10 years down the road, hard- and software is so much > > > intertwined that we cannot influence the future with software alone > > > anymore, we don

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

On Montag, 15. Februar 2016 21:37:49 CET Laszlo Papp wrote: > In which case, what if digital life is not the future? If the world goes completely back to pen and paper, I fear KDE becomes obsolete, because I don't think we could adapt to that world.

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

On Montag, 15. Februar 2016 21:49:58 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > On Monday, February 15, 2016 18:36:18 Lydia Pintscher wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > A bit less than two weeks ago we sent the first draft for the > > community vision for KDE. We have gotten a lot of useful feedback and > >

[kde-community] Distribution outreach program: Where do we go from here?

Hi everyone, now with neon having been announced, and some members of some distributions fearing that their distribution might become a "second-class citizen" for KDE software due to the less direct communication with KDE, I think that it's more important than ever to publicly reach out to all

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - first draft for discussion

On Freitag, 12. Februar 2016 12:07:27 CET Alexander Dymo wrote: > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 1:04 AM, Martin Graesslin wrote: > > Why should there be a line? > > I've been managing software development organizations since 2008. I > attest to the importance of drawing a line.

Re: [kde-community] Vision, mission and manifesto - what is their definition and purpose?

On Mittwoch, 10. Februar 2016 21:42:31 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > In the past, the KDE usability team (namely Björn, Heiko and I) have at > > least twice suggested to create a common vision for KDE's products. > > This approach has received mostly negative comments every time, with the > >

[kde-community] Vision, mission and manifesto - what is their definition and purpose?

Hey everyone, analyzing the current discussions around the KDE Vision, I have identified one problem which could underlie much of the tension: It's still unclear what we mean by "vision", "mission" and "manifesto". We cannot really consult a dictionary or encyclopedia to answer this, because

Re: [kde-community] Vision, mission and manifesto - what is their definition and purpose?

On Dienstag, 9. Februar 2016 23:35:38 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > On Tuesday, February 09, 2016 22:56:32 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > ... > > > That's why I'd suggest that, before discussing the vision any further, we > > should agree on a definition

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - an alternative draft for discussion

On Samstag, 6. Februar 2016 16:47:31 CET Ingo Klöcker wrote: > Yes. I think the vision statement needs to be complemented by a mission > statement. But I think, before we tackle the mission statement, we should > nail down the vision. That exactly was our (the "inclusive vision group") plan. And

Re: [kde-community] RFC: Distribution outreach program

Hi Neofytos! On Dienstag, 2. Februar 2016 23:40:44 CET tetr...@openmailbox.org wrote: > I would like to propose a middle ground solution hoping it will > contribute to the discussion. It will imho serve everyone's interests; > KDE, distributions and users. > > The way I see it, the issue breaks

Re: [kde-community] RFC: Distribution outreach program

On Freitag, 29. Januar 2016 21:46:25 CET Luca Beltrame wrote: > Il Fri, 29 Jan 2016 18:09:23 +0100, Thomas Pfeiffer ha scritto: > > Maybe the speed of upgrading as such is not the actual point. What I > > care about is the speed with which bugfixes reach end users. If a > >

Re: [kde-community] RFC: Distribution outreach program

On Freitag, 29. Januar 2016 16:44:49 CET Luca Beltrame wrote: > Il Fri, 29 Jan 2016 17:06:14 +0100, Thomas Pfeiffer ha scritto: > > I believe that we can improve the situation by intensifying our > > cooperation with distributions even further. On the other hand, however, > &g

Re: [kde-community] Blacklisting of free.fr

On Sunday 27 September 2015 09:32:32 Ben Cooksley wrote: > Hi all, > > In 48 hours, i'll be blacklisting the entire of free.fr from KDE email > infrastructure. This is necessary as it has become apparent that the > security of @free.fr addresses is quite poor - allowing for > subscribers accounts

Re: [kde-community] Greetings Everyone

On Sunday 04 October 2015 18:19:46 Tanzim Rizwan wrote: > Hello everyone,I just joined in this mailing list to get to know how can I > contribute this community with code, I know c,c++ and python. But I don't > know where do I start. Please anybody show me the path. Hello Tanzim, first of all:

Re: [kde-community] FOSDEM Organisation

On Saturday 06 December 2014 08:36:35 Carl Symons wrote: At least some of the FOSDEM organizers believe that it's important. They have a social conduct policy. It's published in the front of the program brochure. Apparently John doesn't think that it is proper (whatever that means): Social

Re: [kde-community] Give People Access to Great Technology - a possible vision

On Tuesday 23 September 2014 16:06:36 Stuart Jarvis wrote: What’s making this more confusing is that the VDG are now discussing branding some apps along the lines of ‘Made for…’ I'd be very concerned about this, for any but the most basic components deeply entwined in the desktop shell

[kde-community] Using software created by KDE and KDE-related communities/companies for KDE infrastructure

Hi everyone, this is a topic that has been going around my head for quite some now, and now I finally decided to actually try and get the ball rolling on it: I think we are quite good at eating our own dog food when it comes to desktop software: Most KDE contributors use Plasma as our desktop

Re: [kde-community] Using software created by KDE and KDE-related communities/companies for KDE infrastructure

On Monday 15 September 2014 15:04:17 Eike Hein wrote: On 15.09.2014 14:58, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: Where we don't use many of our own products, though, is on the infrastructure side. That's not actually true, btw: - identity.kde.org is us - ballot (the e.v. voting software) is us

Re: [kde-community] Using software created by KDE and KDE-related communities/companies for KDE infrastructure

On Monday 15 September 2014 16:24:55 Aleix Pol wrote: Hi Thomas, Hi Aleix, First of all, I'd like to say I mostly agree with you. I would add a bit of a twist though, I think we must ensure the services we rely on are free and open as possible, they don't need to be our own (or in a tier2

Re: [kde-community] Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is.....

On Thursday 11 September 2014 15:56:01 Arjun Ak wrote: How about having something similar to the eudyptula challenge (http://eudyptula-challenge.org/) ? Please don't take this personally, Arjun, but the challenge you linked to serves as the ideal example of how we should _not_ do this ;) Its

Re: [kde-community] Your Akademy take-away?

On Friday 12 September 2014 14:02:39 Lydia Pintscher wrote: Hey folks :) What are the most important things you took away from this year's Akademy? Mine are: * We are an amazing community that really pulls together when needed. Carrying someone up all the way to the castle because they

Re: [kde-community] Sad news (fwd)

On Wednesday 27 August 2014 09:00:04 Jens Reuterberg wrote: Thats terrible news. As a community would it be appropriate to write up a short retrospective of Mojtaba? Perhaps combined with a photo, some information about him, his work and his life and post it on one of the larger KDE blogs?

Re: [kde-community] KDE Essential Applications - was - Re: Applications in KDE Generation 5

On Thursday 16 January 2014 11:56:08 Sebastian Kügler wrote: On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 23:46:29 Adriaan de Groot wrote: On Wednesday 15 January 2014 23:13:11 Albert Astals Cid wrote: Besides how would you define this KDE Essential Applications group? I mean a tarball? An XML file

Re: [kde-community] HIG compliance testing via Google Code-in

On Thursday 05 December 2013 14:26:36 Jeremy Whiting wrote: On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Thomas Pfeiffer colo...@autistici.org wrote: On Wednesday 04 December 2013 16:14:26 Jeremy Whiting wrote: I wouldn't mind getting usability information about knewstuff (used in many applications

Re: [kde-community] HIG compliance testing via Google Code-in

On Thursday 05 December 2013 10:16:56 Shantanu Tushar Jha wrote: Plasma Media Center would love to have more usability feedback, as usual :) PMC would surely be interesting to test. The only issue I see is: Which HIGs should it be tested against? It's neither really a Desktop nor an Active

Re: [kde-community] HIG compliance testing via Google Code-in

On Wednesday 04 December 2013 16:14:26 Jeremy Whiting wrote: I wouldn't mind getting usability information about knewstuff (used in many applications), kanagram, and/or Jovie. thanks, Jeremy Sure! Could you handle feedback for all three? ;) ___

Re: [kde-community] Proposal: KDE Manifesto wording revision

On Tuesday 12 November 2013 23:11:54 Eike Hein wrote: On Tuesday 12 November 2013 22:53:18 Thomas Zander wrote: All these may actually exclude the stuff that is used to create the deliverables. If you use gimp to draw, the gimp file is imporant, but the asset and deliverable is typically

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