On Thursday, August 22, 2013 08:21:51 Laszlo Papp wrote:
> One problem here is that we cannot try that on the real device until we
> have one. In my experience the last few years in the (kde) mobile field,
> people are not that interested in such things when they do not have
> gadgets.
yep; the n
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 7:47 AM, Michael Zanetti wrote:
> On Thursday 22 August 2013 08:21:51 Laszlo Papp wrote:
> > One problem here is that we cannot try that on the real device until we
> > have one. In my experience the last few years in the (kde) mobile field,
> > people are not that interes
On Friday, August 23, 2013 09:31:14 you wrote:
> On Friday 23 August 2013 01:10:09 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > a) Probably most libraries used do more than Ubuntu needs. Is every glibc
> > call used by Ubuntu software written by Canonical? Is every Qt API used?
> > (QWidget, e.g.)
>
> No. But the di
On Friday 23 August 2013 01:10:09 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 09:14:58 Michael Zanetti wrote:
> > I for one work on Unity8, which just works
> > and looks so different in every way than plasma does. We don't need
> > Plasmoid containers, you don't need search scopes.
>
>
On Thursday 22 August 2013 08:21:51 Laszlo Papp wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Michael Zanetti wrote:
> > On Wednesday 21 August 2013 13:00:26 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 21 August 2013 10:59:29 Mario Fux KDE ML wrote:
> > > > Am Mittwoch 21 August 2013, 09.14:58 schrieb Mi
On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 14:32:23 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> yes, there's a lot of room for improvement there. Perhaps a frameworks
> sprint at some point could focus on documenting what's where...
This probably only makes sense once there is a tech preview of KF5 out; I
understand that there i
On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 09:14:58 Michael Zanetti wrote:
> - Not all areas can be shared.
This is true. So let’s focus on the many things that can be instead of
focusing on what can’t be done :)
> I for one work on Unity8, which just works
> and looks so different in every way than plasma d
On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 23:16:27 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> I only have a high level overview of both Frameworks and Ubuntu Touch, but
> I'd say there's not much intersection on things being developed at this
> stage.
ranging from packaging formats for QML and native mobile apps to the QML
co
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Michael Zanetti wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 August 2013 13:00:26 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> > On Wednesday 21 August 2013 10:59:29 Mario Fux KDE ML wrote:
> > > Am Mittwoch 21 August 2013, 09.14:58 schrieb Michael Zanetti:
> > >
> > > Morning Michael
> > >
> > > Thanks
On Wednesday 21 August 2013 13:00:26 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 August 2013 10:59:29 Mario Fux KDE ML wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch 21 August 2013, 09.14:58 schrieb Michael Zanetti:
> >
> > Morning Michael
> >
> > Thanks for your and Albert's explanations.
> >
> > > On Tuesday 20 August 20
On Wednesday 21 August 2013 12:34:31 Thomas Zander wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 August 2013 10.59.29 Mario Fux KDE ML wrote:
> > So here my two questions:
> > - What could we do that this "Gnome/GTK Canonical people" would be
> > better informed about KDE Frameworks?
>
> Maybe a good start is to work
On Wednesday 21 August 2013 10.59.29 Mario Fux KDE ML wrote:
> So here my two questions:
> - What could we do that this "Gnome/GTK Canonical people" would be
> better informed about KDE Frameworks?
Maybe a good start is to work on having a better visibility of what
frameworks actually gives deve
On Wednesday 21 August 2013 10:59:29 Mario Fux KDE ML wrote:
> Am Mittwoch 21 August 2013, 09.14:58 schrieb Michael Zanetti:
>
> Morning Michael
>
> Thanks for your and Albert's explanations.
>
> > On Tuesday 20 August 2013 22:11:04 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> > > On Friday 16 August 2013 10:49:26 J
Am Mittwoch 21 August 2013, 09.14:58 schrieb Michael Zanetti:
Morning Michael
Thanks for your and Albert's explanations.
> On Tuesday 20 August 2013 22:11:04 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> > On Friday 16 August 2013 10:49:26 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> > > I think Aaron already made clear that he would be
On Tuesday 20 August 2013 22:11:04 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> On Friday 16 August 2013 10:49:26 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> > I think Aaron already made clear that he would be happy to work on sharing
> > as much as possible with the Plasma efforts he's involved in and kick folk
> > around him to do the s
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote:
> On terça-feira, 20 de agosto de 2013 14:02:20, Ian Monroe wrote:
>> > Of course you can argue that Canonical could help in the development of
>> > those Qt5 ports, but as I said, there's a release to be done in October
>> > so doesn't make
El Dimarts, 20 d'agost de 2013, a les 22:59:24, Jos Poortvliet va escriure:
> On Tuesday 20 August 2013 22:33:05 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > El Dimarts, 20 d'agost de 2013, a les 22:11:04, Jos Poortvliet va
escriure:
> > > On Friday 16 August 2013 10:49:26 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> > > > On Thursda
On terça-feira, 20 de agosto de 2013 14:02:20, Ian Monroe wrote:
> > Of course you can argue that Canonical could help in the development of
> > those Qt5 ports, but as I said, there's a release to be done in October
> > so doesn't make much sense to focus on things that are not release
> > critica
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> I did not read your email as a question but as a statement, hence my non
> answer, but if you want one from me, here's my take.
>
> Yes, KDE Frameworks is very interesting. But it's still not done and Canonical
> is going to ship a versio
On Tuesday 20 August 2013 22:33:05 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> El Dimarts, 20 d'agost de 2013, a les 22:11:04, Jos Poortvliet va escriure:
> > On Friday 16 August 2013 10:49:26 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> > > On Thursday 15 August 2013 13:37:56 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> > > > Heya,
> > > >
> > > > See th
El Dimarts, 20 d'agost de 2013, a les 22:11:04, Jos Poortvliet va escriure:
> On Friday 16 August 2013 10:49:26 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> > On Thursday 15 August 2013 13:37:56 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> > > Heya,
> > >
> > > See the subject - I don't understand why, if Ubuntu wants people to
> > > deve
On Friday 16 August 2013 10:49:26 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> On Thursday 15 August 2013 13:37:56 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> > Heya,
> >
> > See the subject - I don't understand why, if Ubuntu wants people to
> > develop apps for their Qt/QML based Phone OS (and perhaps, later,
> > desktop), they were no
On Saturday, August 17, 2013 00:12:37 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> On Friday 16 August 2013 18:51:37 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > On Friday, August 16, 2013 10:49:26 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> > > I just make the wild bet that the Frameworks
> > > folk are perfectly
> >
> > You win the bet. That's one of the
On Friday 16 August 2013 18:51:37 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Friday, August 16, 2013 10:49:26 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> > - Our marketing efforts of "KDE is people" has backfired, Canonical now
> > thinks KDE = Aaron and Aaron = KDE ;-)
>
> That’s an incorrect conclusion, I fear. Canonical’s viewpoi
On Friday, August 16, 2013 10:49:26 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> - Our marketing efforts of "KDE is people" has backfired, Canonical now
> thinks KDE = Aaron and Aaron = KDE ;-)
That’s an incorrect conclusion, I fear. Canonical’s viewpoint that I somehow
steer all of KDE as some sort of benevolent dic
On Friday, August 16, 2013 07:42:54 Carl Symons wrote:
> The weird part of this discussion for me is how Canonical became the
> victim, how Jos's comment were intended to "bash Canonical at every
> turn".
Having watched many Canonical employees interact with people over the last
several months on
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 7:04 AM, Michael Zanetti wrote:
> On Friday 16 August 2013 10:12:29 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
>> On Friday, August 16, 2013 01:49:56 you wrote:
>> > Anyways, the question is why Canonical didn't have any talks about Ubuntu
>> > Touch. I personally found it a bit weird and would
On Friday 16 August 2013 10:12:29 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Friday, August 16, 2013 01:49:56 you wrote:
> > Anyways, the question is why Canonical didn't have any talks about Ubuntu
> > Touch. I personally found it a bit weird and wouldn't have expected that
> > this years akademy was so much abou
On Thursday 15 August 2013 13:37:56 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> Heya,
>
> See the subject - I don't understand why, if Ubuntu wants people to
> develop apps for their Qt/QML based Phone OS (and perhaps, later,
> desktop), they were not at Akademy? Not as sponsors, not with a booth,
> not with talks an
On Friday, August 16, 2013 01:49:56 you wrote:
> Anyways, the question is why Canonical didn't have any talks about Ubuntu
> Touch. I personally found it a bit weird and wouldn't have expected that
> this years akademy was so much about mobile phone platforms *not* related
> to KDE. Actually I woul
Hi,
just caught up with my emails.
Yes, I'm currently working on some marble patches to make it work with Qt5 and
Ubuntu Touch. So far we aligned the build system to allow building Marble with
Qt4 and Qt5 and also aligned and ifdefed includes to support both. The fact
that Marble still needs t
On Thursday, August 15, 2013 22:11:56 Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 15. August 2013, 21:34:44 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> > [...] and are
> > using KDE technologies such as Marble and apparently Konsole (?) quietly
> > without any apparent contact with the projects may also be anot
On Thursday, August 15, 2013 21:52:09 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> El Dijous, 15 d'agost de 2013, a les 21:34:44, Aaron J. Seigo va escriure:
> > using KDE technologies such as Marble without any apparent contact with
> > the
>
> projects
>
> So Michael talking to Marble people at Akademy is being
Am Donnerstag, 15. August 2013, 21:34:44 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> [...] and are
> using KDE technologies such as Marble and apparently Konsole (?) quietly
> without any apparent contact with the projects may also be another negative
> indicator.
People love rumors, so give them to them, especiall
El Dijous, 15 d'agost de 2013, a les 21:34:44, Aaron J. Seigo va escriure:
> they are using KDE technologies such as Konsole (?)
> quietly without any apparent contact with the projects may also be another
> negative indicator.
Why that (?) ?
You don't believe what i said? Well i think i need to
El Dijous, 15 d'agost de 2013, a les 21:34:44, Aaron J. Seigo va escriure:
> using KDE technologies such as Marble without any apparent contact with the
projects
So Michael talking to Marble people at Akademy is being quiet about it?
Please...
Albert
__
On Thursday, August 15, 2013 13:37:56 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> See the subject - I don't understand why, if Ubuntu wants people to
> develop apps for their Qt/QML based Phone OS (and perhaps, later,
> desktop), they were not at Akademy? Not as sponsors, not with a booth,
> not with talks and session
El Dijous, 15 d'agost de 2013, a les 13:46:19, Alvaro Soliverez va escriure:
> Given that a Marble port for Ubuntu phone was just mentioned, I think
> Ubuntu Phone does in fact use KDE technologies.
FWIW the terminal app also uses some kind of kde code (don't have the details,
but the code is out
Given that a Marble port for Ubuntu phone was just mentioned, I think
Ubuntu Phone does in fact use KDE technologies.
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Thomas Zander wrote:
> On Thursday 15 August 2013 13.37.56 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
>> See the subject - I don't understand why, if Ubuntu wants peop
On Thursday 15 August 2013 13.37.56 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> See the subject - I don't understand why, if Ubuntu wants people to
> develop apps for their Qt/QML based Phone OS (and perhaps, later,
> desktop), they were not at Akademy? Not as sponsors, not with a booth,
> not with talks and sessions.
On Thursday 15 August 2013 16:05:46 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> El Dijous, 15 d'agost de 2013, a les 14:49:11, David Edmundson va escriure:
> > I was directing my question to Jos, not Albert.
>
> I guess you can also read Jos email as "what KDE did wrong because it did
> not attract [much] Canonica
El Dijous, 15 d'agost de 2013, a les 14:49:11, David Edmundson va escriure:
> I was directing my question to Jos, not Albert.
I guess you can also read Jos email as "what KDE did wrong because it did not
attract [much] Canonical people and how can KDE try to get more Canonical
people next time".
El Dijous, 15 d'agost de 2013, a les 15:38:45, Inge Wallin va escriure:
> On Thursday, August 15, 2013 15:25:05 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > El Dijous, 15 d'agost de 2013, a les 13:37:56, Jos Poortvliet va escriure:
> > > Heya,
> > >
> > > See the subject - I don't understand why, if Ubuntu wants
I was directing my question to Jos, not Albert.
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 2:39 PM, David Edmundson wrote:
> I don't understand the purpose of this email.
>
> It is not the job of the KDE community to attempt to bash Canonical at
> every turn.
>
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On Thursday, August 15, 2013 14:39:24 David Edmundson wrote:
> I don't understand the purpose of this email.
>
> It is not the job of the KDE community to attempt to bash Canonical at
> every turn.
Hmm, this seems like a misunderstanding. Albert is not bashing Canonical, in
fact he works there.
I don't understand the purpose of this email.
It is not the job of the KDE community to attempt to bash Canonical at
every turn.
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On Thursday, August 15, 2013 15:25:05 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> El Dijous, 15 d'agost de 2013, a les 13:37:56, Jos Poortvliet va escriure:
> > Heya,
> >
> > See the subject - I don't understand why, if Ubuntu wants people to
> > develop apps for their Qt/QML based Phone OS (and perhaps, later,
>
El Dijous, 15 d'agost de 2013, a les 13:37:56, Jos Poortvliet va escriure:
> Heya,
>
> See the subject - I don't understand why, if Ubuntu wants people to
> develop apps for their Qt/QML based Phone OS (and perhaps, later,
> desktop), they were not at Akademy? Not as sponsors, not with a booth,
>
Heya,
See the subject - I don't understand why, if Ubuntu wants people to
develop apps for their Qt/QML based Phone OS (and perhaps, later,
desktop), they were not at Akademy? Not as sponsors, not with a booth,
not with talks and sessions... Or were they and I just didn't notice
them?
They DID kn
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