pirmd., 2019. g. 11. nov., plkst. 16:02 — lietotājs Luigi Toscano
() rakstīja:
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> Alexander Potashev ha scritto:
> > вс, 10 нояб. 2019 г. в 18:09, Luigi Toscano :
> >>
> >> Nate Graham ha scritto:
> >>> On 11/9/19 4:50 PM, Nicolás Alvarez wrote:
> El sáb., 9 de nov. de 2019 a la(s) 20:29, Nat
Thank you very much for this summary Ben
One addition to the discussion (not to the summary): For my part, every
time I have to deal with Git, I end up shaking my head in disbelief at
its* immaturity (and I've only started using it 3 years ago). And I've
been using VCS-s for over 15 years, so
On Dienstag, 12. November 2019 13:11:43 CET Luigi Toscano wrote:
> Māris Nartišs ha scritto:
> > pirmd., 2019. g. 11. nov., plkst. 16:02 — lietotājs Luigi Toscano
> >
> > () rakstīja:
> >> Alexander Potashev ha scritto:
> >>> вс, 10 нояб. 2019 г. в 18:09, Luigi Toscano :
> Nate Graham ha scri
On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:12 AM Luigi Toscano wrote:
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> Ben Cooksley ha scritto:
> > On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 10:00 AM Alexander Potashev
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> пн, 11 нояб. 2019 г. в 17:02, Luigi Toscano :
> >>>
> >>> Alexander Potashev ha scritto:
> вс, 10 нояб. 2019 г. в 18:09, Luigi Tosca
On 11/12/19 7:11 AM, Luigi Toscano wrote:
Māris Nartišs ha scritto:
pirmd., 2019. g. 11. nov., plkst. 16:02 — lietotājs Luigi Toscano
() rakstīja:
Alexander Potashev ha scritto:
вс, 10 нояб. 2019 г. в 18:09, Luigi Toscano :
Nate Graham ha scritto:
On 11/9/19 4:50 PM, Nicolás Alvarez wrote:
Māris Nartišs ha scritto:
> pirmd., 2019. g. 11. nov., plkst. 16:02 — lietotājs Luigi Toscano
> () rakstīja:
>>
>> Alexander Potashev ha scritto:
>>> вс, 10 нояб. 2019 г. в 18:09, Luigi Toscano :
Nate Graham ha scritto:
> On 11/9/19 4:50 PM, Nicolás Alvarez wrote:
>> El sáb., 9 de
Ilya Bizyaev ha scritto:
> A task shows this attitude much better as it is something that will be
> completed eventually. "[WIP] Migrate translations from SVN to Git" to me
> sounds like a clear intention.
A task and a document are different thing. A set of tasks are action items
which specifies i
A task shows this attitude much better as it is something that will be
completed eventually. "[WIP] Migrate translations from SVN to Git" to me sounds
like a clear intention.
Docs, in contrast, are static and do not display any motivation for migration.
"Top 10 Reasons Why We Can't Use Git".
Ben Cooksley ha scritto:
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 10:00 AM Alexander Potashev
> wrote:
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>> пн, 11 нояб. 2019 г. в 17:02, Luigi Toscano :
>>>
>>> Alexander Potashev ha scritto:
вс, 10 нояб. 2019 г. в 18:09, Luigi Toscano :
> Most of translators are not so technical as the developers. An
On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 10:00 AM Alexander Potashev
wrote:
>
> пн, 11 нояб. 2019 г. в 17:02, Luigi Toscano :
> >
> > Alexander Potashev ha scritto:
> > > вс, 10 нояб. 2019 г. в 18:09, Luigi Toscano :
> > >> Most of translators are not so technical as the developers. And even
> > >> developers can
On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 8:14 AM Ingo Klöcker wrote:
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> On Montag, 11. November 2019 11:26:23 CET Ben Cooksley wrote:
> > With regards to removal of access for everyone but translators, there
> > have been two objections noted to this. One concerned compliance with
> > the Manifesto, whilst the ot
пн, 11 нояб. 2019 г. в 17:02, Luigi Toscano :
>
> Alexander Potashev ha scritto:
> > вс, 10 нояб. 2019 г. в 18:09, Luigi Toscano :
> >> Most of translators are not so technical as the developers. And even
> >> developers can shoot them in the foot with git, I see many issues coming
> >> from
> >>
On Montag, 11. November 2019 04:21:44 CET Alexander Potashev wrote:
> Also, Lokalize has much more features that a plain text editor:
> 1. Interactive merging and reviewing of changes from other .po
> translation files. I use it all the time to review and commit
> translations from people without
On Montag, 11. November 2019 11:26:23 CET Ben Cooksley wrote:
> With regards to removal of access for everyone but translators, there
> have been two objections noted to this. One concerned compliance with
> the Manifesto, whilst the other was concerned with creating obstacles.
> Given that restric
Alexander Potashev ha scritto:
> вс, 10 нояб. 2019 г. в 18:09, Luigi Toscano :
>>
>> Nate Graham ha scritto:
>>> On 11/9/19 4:50 PM, Nicolás Alvarez wrote:
El sáb., 9 de nov. de 2019 a la(s) 20:29, Nate Graham (n...@kde.org)
escribió:
>
> Not knowing anything about the translatio
вс, 10 нояб. 2019 г. в 18:09, Luigi Toscano :
>
> Nate Graham ha scritto:
> > On 11/9/19 4:50 PM, Nicolás Alvarez wrote:
> >> El sáb., 9 de nov. de 2019 a la(s) 20:29, Nate Graham (n...@kde.org)
> >> escribió:
> >>>
> >>> Not knowing anything about the translation system we use... what are the
> >
Hi all,
This has been quite the long thread for one that was started only
around 2 days ago, so thought I would summarise things:
On the topic of removal of the Subversion mirrors, there have been no
objections, so we will proceed with this.
With regards to removal of access for everyone but tra
On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 3:58 AM Luigi Toscano wrote:
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> Ben Cooksley ha scritto:
> > On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 11:19 AM Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> >>
> >> El dissabte, 9 de novembre de 2019, a les 21:22:16 CET, Ben Cooksley va
> >> escriure:
> >>> On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 8:37 AM Albert Astals Cid
пн, 11 нояб. 2019 г. в 02:01, Nate Graham :
>
> On 11/10/19 8:09 AM, Luigi Toscano wrote:
> > Most of translators are not so technical as the developers. And even
> > developers can shoot them in the foot with git, I see many issues coming
> > from
> > unwanted merges.
>
> That's why I would expec
вс, 10 нояб. 2019 г. в 23:56, Ingo Klöcker :
>
> On Sonntag, 10. November 2019 16:09:34 CET Luigi Toscano wrote:
> > Nate Graham ha scritto:
> > > Again, from a totally non-translation perspective, I am somewhat surprised
> > > to hear that individual translators are required to be proficient in a
On 11/10/19 8:09 AM, Luigi Toscano wrote:
Most of translators are not so technical as the developers. And even
developers can shoot them in the foot with git, I see many issues coming from
unwanted merges.
That's why I would expect that non-technical translators would be able
to use a nice GUI
On Sonntag, 10. November 2019 16:09:34 CET Luigi Toscano wrote:
> Nate Graham ha scritto:
> > Again, from a totally non-translation perspective, I am somewhat surprised
> > to hear that individual translators are required to be proficient in a
> > source control system. Perhaps de-coupling the work
Nate Graham ha scritto:
> On 11/9/19 4:50 PM, Nicolás Alvarez wrote:
>> El sáb., 9 de nov. de 2019 a la(s) 20:29, Nate Graham (n...@kde.org)
>> escribió:
>>>
>>> Not knowing anything about the translation system we use... what are the
>>> blockers to moving it over to git?
>>>
>> Not necessarily i
Ben Cooksley ha scritto:
> On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 11:19 AM Albert Astals Cid wrote:
>>
>> El dissabte, 9 de novembre de 2019, a les 21:22:16 CET, Ben Cooksley va
>> escriure:
>>> On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 8:37 AM Albert Astals Cid wrote:
El dissabte, 9 de novembre de 2019, a les 19:27:0
Albert Astals Cid - 10.11.19, 11:51:00 CET:
> > I wasn't referring to monetary cost there, I was referring to the
> > flow on effects (such as having to maintain the necessary
> > components on the master server to allow for the Subversion
> > repository to be mirrored).
> >
> > Note also the "peo
El diumenge, 10 de novembre de 2019, a les 3:04:03 CET, Alexander Potashev va
escriure:
> вс, 10 нояб. 2019 г. в 04:10, Ben Cooksley :
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 11:19 AM Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > >
> > > El dissabte, 9 de novembre de 2019, a les 21:22:16 CET, Ben Cooksley va
> > > escri
El diumenge, 10 de novembre de 2019, a les 2:09:19 CET, Ben Cooksley va
escriure:
> On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 11:19 AM Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> >
> > El dissabte, 9 de novembre de 2019, a les 21:22:16 CET, Ben Cooksley va
> > escriure:
> > > On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 8:37 AM Albert Astals Cid wro
svētd., 2019. g. 10. nov., plkst. 04:09 — lietotājs Alexander Potashev
() rakstīja:
>
> вс, 10 нояб. 2019 г. в 04:10, Ben Cooksley :
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 11:19 AM Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > >
> > > El dissabte, 9 de novembre de 2019, a les 21:22:16 CET, Ben Cooksley va
> > > escriure
On 11/9/19 4:50 PM, Nicolás Alvarez wrote:
El sáb., 9 de nov. de 2019 a la(s) 20:29, Nate Graham (n...@kde.org) escribió:
Not knowing anything about the translation system we use... what are the
blockers to moving it over to git?
Nate
Not necessarily in order:
- Experiment conversion to git
вс, 10 нояб. 2019 г. в 04:10, Ben Cooksley :
>
> On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 11:19 AM Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> >
> > El dissabte, 9 de novembre de 2019, a les 21:22:16 CET, Ben Cooksley va
> > escriure:
> > > On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 8:37 AM Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > > >
> > > > El dissabte, 9 d
On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 2:13 PM Philippe Cloutier wrote:
>
>
> On 09/11/2019 16:07, Ben Cooksley wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 9:32 AM Albert Vaca Cintora
> > wrote:
> >> On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 6:53 PM Ben Cooksley wrote:
> >>> Unfortunately Rosetta does not have the necessary free disk spa
On 09/11/2019 16:07, Ben Cooksley wrote:
On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 9:32 AM Albert Vaca Cintora
wrote:
On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 6:53 PM Ben Cooksley wrote:
Unfortunately Rosetta does not have the necessary free disk space, as
the Subversion repository is approximately 80GB these days in size,
an
On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 11:19 AM Albert Astals Cid wrote:
>
> El dissabte, 9 de novembre de 2019, a les 21:22:16 CET, Ben Cooksley va
> escriure:
> > On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 8:37 AM Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > >
> > > El dissabte, 9 de novembre de 2019, a les 19:27:07 CET, Ben Cooksley va
> >
On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 10:21 AM Friedrich W. H. Kossebau
wrote:
>
> Am Samstag, 9. November 2019, 21:35:47 CET schrieb Ben Cooksley:
> > On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 9:14 AM Friedrich W. H. Kossebau
> >
> > wrote:
> > > Am Samstag, 9. November 2019, 19:16:20 CET schrieb Ben Cooksley:
> > > > On Sun,
On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 11:47 AM Friedrich W. H. Kossebau
wrote:
>
> Am Samstag, 9. November 2019, 21:22:16 CET schrieb Ben Cooksley:
> > On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 8:37 AM Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > > El dissabte, 9 de novembre de 2019, a les 19:27:07 CET, Ben Cooksley va
> escriure:
> > > > On S
El sáb., 9 de nov. de 2019 a la(s) 20:29, Nate Graham (n...@kde.org) escribió:
>
> Not knowing anything about the translation system we use... what are the
> blockers to moving it over to git?
>
> Nate
Not necessarily in order:
- Experiment conversion to git and see if the resulting repo(s) are of
Not knowing anything about the translation system we use... what are the
blockers to moving it over to git?
Nate
El sáb., 9 de nov. de 2019 a la(s) 19:48, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau
(kosse...@kde.org) escribió:
> FWIW, everytime I had to deal with translations as developer (like checking
> pot files as well as .po files contents) I found having the web interface and
> its browsing feature very valuable to quick
Am Samstag, 9. November 2019, 21:22:16 CET schrieb Ben Cooksley:
> On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 8:37 AM Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > El dissabte, 9 de novembre de 2019, a les 19:27:07 CET, Ben Cooksley va
escriure:
> > > On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 7:18 AM Alexander Potashev
wrote:
> > > > сб, 9 нояб. 2
On Sat, Nov 9, 2019, 4:21 PM Friedrich W. H. Kossebau
wrote:
> Am Samstag, 9. November 2019, 21:35:47 CET schrieb Ben Cooksley:
> > On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 9:14 AM Friedrich W. H. Kossebau
> >
> > wrote:
> > > Am Samstag, 9. November 2019, 19:16:20 CET schrieb Ben Cooksley:
> > > > On Sun, Nov 1
El dissabte, 9 de novembre de 2019, a les 21:22:16 CET, Ben Cooksley va
escriure:
> On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 8:37 AM Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> >
> > El dissabte, 9 de novembre de 2019, a les 19:27:07 CET, Ben Cooksley va
> > escriure:
> > > On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 7:18 AM Alexander Potashev
>
Am Samstag, 9. November 2019, 21:35:47 CET schrieb Ben Cooksley:
> On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 9:14 AM Friedrich W. H. Kossebau
>
> wrote:
> > Am Samstag, 9. November 2019, 19:16:20 CET schrieb Ben Cooksley:
> > > On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 6:04 AM Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> > > > On Samstag, 9. November 20
On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 9:32 AM Albert Vaca Cintora
wrote:
>
> On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 6:53 PM Ben Cooksley wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately Rosetta does not have the necessary free disk space, as
> > the Subversion repository is approximately 80GB these days in size,
> > and operating WebSVN requires
On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 9:14 AM Friedrich W. H. Kossebau
wrote:
>
> Am Samstag, 9. November 2019, 19:16:20 CET schrieb Ben Cooksley:
> > On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 6:04 AM Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> > > On Samstag, 9. November 2019 01:20:01 CET Ben Cooksley wrote:
> > > > On top of this, i'd also like to
On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 6:53 PM Ben Cooksley wrote:
>
> Unfortunately Rosetta does not have the necessary free disk space, as
> the Subversion repository is approximately 80GB these days in size,
> and operating WebSVN requires a full copy of the Subversion repository
> locally in order to operate.
On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 8:37 AM Albert Astals Cid wrote:
>
> El dissabte, 9 de novembre de 2019, a les 19:27:07 CET, Ben Cooksley va
> escriure:
> > On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 7:18 AM Alexander Potashev
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > сб, 9 нояб. 2019 г. в 03:20, Ben Cooksley :
> > > > This would include t
Am Samstag, 9. November 2019, 19:16:20 CET schrieb Ben Cooksley:
> On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 6:04 AM Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> > On Samstag, 9. November 2019 01:20:01 CET Ben Cooksley wrote:
> > > On top of this, i'd also like to remove commit access to it for
> > > everyone but translators and those wh
El dissabte, 9 de novembre de 2019, a les 19:27:07 CET, Ben Cooksley va
escriure:
> On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 7:18 AM Alexander Potashev
> wrote:
> >
> > сб, 9 нояб. 2019 г. в 03:20, Ben Cooksley :
> > > This would include the shutdown of WebSVN in particular, which when
> > > coupled with the shu
Ben Cooksley ha scritto:
> On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 12:20 AM Luigi Toscano
> wrote:
>>
>> Ben Cooksley ha scritto:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> When KDE committed to performing a migration to Git back in 2010, one
>>> of the things that was agreed at the time was that translators could
>>> remain on Subver
On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 7:18 AM Alexander Potashev wrote:
>
> сб, 9 нояб. 2019 г. в 03:20, Ben Cooksley :
> > This would include the shutdown of WebSVN in particular, which when
> > coupled with the shutdown of our two CGit instances would also allow
> > for us to eliminate an entire virtual machi
сб, 9 нояб. 2019 г. в 03:20, Ben Cooksley :
> This would include the shutdown of WebSVN in particular, which when
> coupled with the shutdown of our two CGit instances would also allow
> for us to eliminate an entire virtual machine from our systems.
Will there be any web interface for SVN after s
On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 6:04 AM Ingo Klöcker wrote:
>
> On Samstag, 9. November 2019 01:20:01 CET Ben Cooksley wrote:
> > On top of this, i'd also like to remove commit access to it for
> > everyone but translators and those who need to work on the small
> > number of websites remaining on Subvers
On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 12:20 AM Luigi Toscano wrote:
>
> Ben Cooksley ha scritto:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > When KDE committed to performing a migration to Git back in 2010, one
> > of the things that was agreed at the time was that translators could
> > remain on Subversion to avoid disrupting their w
On Samstag, 9. November 2019 01:20:01 CET Ben Cooksley wrote:
> On top of this, i'd also like to remove commit access to it for
> everyone but translators and those who need to work on the small
> number of websites remaining on Subversion and only provision this for
> people on an as-needed basis.
Ben Cooksley ha scritto:
> Hi all,
>
> When KDE committed to performing a migration to Git back in 2010, one
> of the things that was agreed at the time was that translators could
> remain on Subversion to avoid disrupting their workflows.
>
> This however has led to a certain amount of additiona
Hi all,
When KDE committed to performing a migration to Git back in 2010, one
of the things that was agreed at the time was that translators could
remain on Subversion to avoid disrupting their workflows.
This however has led to a certain amount of additional infrastructure
which Sysadmin needs t
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