Re: Retirement of notes.kde.org

2019-09-15 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 5:14 AM Valorie Zimmerman
 wrote:
>
> Hey Ben,

Hi Valorie,

>
> On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 11:58 AM Ben Cooksley  wrote:
>>
>> Good evening all,
>>
>> Currently we're in the situation where the software we use to run
>> notes.kde.org is both difficult to maintain, as well as support (for
>> things like document confidentiality for various groups within KDE).
>>
>> We'd therefore like to retire the service, replacing it with the
>> Realtime Text Editor within Nextcloud (share.kde.org). Internally this
>> editor uses Markdown.
>>
>> You can find a demo of this at https://share.kde.org/s/gtFcRmwetRKqTZJ
>> (no login required)
>>
>> It would be appreciated if everyone could please test the realtime
>> text editor and let us know if they encounter any issues.
>>
>> In terms of feature differences, we are aware that
>> highlighting/authorship information won't be retained by the new
>> editor, and there can occasionally be problems when editing the same
>> line with someone else simultaneously.
>>
>> If everyone is okay with this we'd like to go ahead with shutting down
>> notes.kde.org as soon as possible.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ben Cooksley
>> KDE Sysadmin
>
>
> I noticed that most every BoF at Akademy this year used notes to link the BoF 
> notes. Will all these notes be just disappeared? If so, that is really 
> unfortunate. There is a reason many of us continue to use notes. One can see 
> who typed what, one can see the history of the doc - and other points 
> mentioned on https://share.kde.org/s/gtFcRmwetRKqTZJ.
>
> ::sigh::

The content of notes.kde.org will be exported - likely in ODT format -
prior to us shutting it down.
The resulting files will be made available on share.kde.org.

If there are things which need to be resolved prior to the shutdown of
notes.kde.org we can look into those.

While it is unfortunate that the links will be broken, we should be
able to make them relatively close (ie. send the user to a public view
of the folder on share.kde.org which contains all of the content
exported from notes.kde.org) so the user isn't too far from the
original link.

In terms of feature regressions i'm tracking, I see the following:
- Lack of editor highlighting
- No stored history aside from Nextcloud versioning
- Slightly harder to create new documents

Any other comments on this which I missed from the document?

Cheers,
Ben

>
> Valorie
> --
> http://about.me/valoriez - pronouns: she/her
>
>


Re: Retirement of notes.kde.org

2019-09-15 Thread Valorie Zimmerman
Hey Ben,

On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 11:58 AM Ben Cooksley  wrote:

> Good evening all,
>
> Currently we're in the situation where the software we use to run
> notes.kde.org is both difficult to maintain, as well as support (for
> things like document confidentiality for various groups within KDE).
>
> We'd therefore like to retire the service, replacing it with the
> Realtime Text Editor within Nextcloud (share.kde.org). Internally this
> editor uses Markdown.
>
> You can find a demo of this at https://share.kde.org/s/gtFcRmwetRKqTZJ
> (no login required)
>
> It would be appreciated if everyone could please test the realtime
> text editor and let us know if they encounter any issues.
>
> In terms of feature differences, we are aware that
> highlighting/authorship information won't be retained by the new
> editor, and there can occasionally be problems when editing the same
> line with someone else simultaneously.
>
> If everyone is okay with this we'd like to go ahead with shutting down
> notes.kde.org as soon as possible.
>
> Thanks,
> Ben Cooksley
> KDE Sysadmin
>

I noticed that most every BoF at Akademy this year used notes to link the
BoF notes. Will all these notes be just disappeared? If so, that is really
unfortunate. There is a reason many of us continue to use notes. One can
see who typed what, one can see the history of the doc - and other points
mentioned on https://share.kde.org/s/gtFcRmwetRKqTZJ.

::sigh::

Valorie
-- 
http://about.me/valoriez - pronouns: she/her


Retirement of notes.kde.org

2019-09-15 Thread Ben Cooksley
Good evening all,

Currently we're in the situation where the software we use to run
notes.kde.org is both difficult to maintain, as well as support (for
things like document confidentiality for various groups within KDE).

We'd therefore like to retire the service, replacing it with the
Realtime Text Editor within Nextcloud (share.kde.org). Internally this
editor uses Markdown.

You can find a demo of this at https://share.kde.org/s/gtFcRmwetRKqTZJ
(no login required)

It would be appreciated if everyone could please test the realtime
text editor and let us know if they encounter any issues.

In terms of feature differences, we are aware that
highlighting/authorship information won't be retained by the new
editor, and there can occasionally be problems when editing the same
line with someone else simultaneously.

If everyone is okay with this we'd like to go ahead with shutting down
notes.kde.org as soon as possible.

Thanks,
Ben Cooksley
KDE Sysadmin


KF6 Sprint

2019-09-15 Thread Volker Krause
Hi,

as you might have seen in David's summary of the KF6 BoF at Akademy (https://
mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-frameworks-devel/2019-September/093298.html), 
there's the idea to have a KF6 sprint, along the lines of the KF5 sprint we 
had in Randa a few years back, to determine what we actually want to achieve 
with KF6 beyond just porting to Qt6.

If you are interested please subscribe to https://phabricator.kde.org/T11535 
and indicate your interest to participate, as well as times that would work 
for you. I'm not just looking at the current KF5 contributors for this, but 
also those of you heavily using KF5.

If you are willing to help organize the sprint, please indicate so there too, 
help with that would be greatly appreciated (I'm not organizing this, I'm just 
writing this email because Albert asked me too ;-) ).

With Qt 6 planned for Nov 2020 we are probably looking at a 18-24 month time 
frame towards KF6, so it's time to get this going.

Regards,
Volker

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