On Donnerstag, 19. September 2019 14:48:28 CEST John Tapsell wrote:
> Now using the term "race" is "copying racists"? Wtf?
Language barrier problem. Unlike in English, in German, the literal
translation of the term "race", i.e. "Rasse", has a different meaning than the
English term "race". In
Thanks for all the input so far, especially from Lydia on behalf of the
Board.
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:17 PM Nate Graham wrote:
> I find it amusing that there is such diversity in interpretations of
> what "ensure diversity" means. :)
>
> Some people seem to interpret it to mean "remove
Hello,
On Thu, 19 Sep 2019, 18:58 Thomas Pfeiffer, wrote:
> On 19.09.19 11:48, Agustin Benito (toscalix) wrote:
> > Hello again,
> >
> > a clarification from my side...
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 8:16 AM Agustín Benito
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I am against this. I find
I find it amusing that there is such diversity in interpretations of
what "ensure diversity" means. :)
Some people seem to interpret it to mean "remove institutional barriers
and bias faced by non-straight-white-male candidates" and other people
interpret it to mean "prefer and promote
Now using the term "race" is "copying racists"? Wtf?
On Thu, 19 Sep 2019, 21:37 Friedrich W. H. Kossebau,
wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 19. September 2019, 10:31:38 CEST schrieb Christian Loosli:
> > I think that people should be elected into positions based on their
> > suitability for that
It is amazing to see as we reach the year 2020, the amount of ignorance
(willful or otherwise) regarding what ensuring diversity means among the
educated adults in this group.
The call to ensure diversity does not mean choosing someone less qualified
who is not "white straight male" for the
I also agree with us insisting on only preapproved skin color and
genitals.
On Thu, 19 Sep 2019, 11:59 Valorie Zimmerman,
wrote:
> As many of you know, Richard Stallman has stepped down from the FSF.
> However, his supporters on the FSF Board remain. The FSF is on our Advisory
> Board,
On 19.09.19 11:48, Agustin Benito (toscalix) wrote:
> Hello again,
>
> a clarification from my side...
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 8:16 AM Agustín Benito wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am against this. I find disrespectful to tell a fellow organization what
>> they should do. I would feel the
On jueves, 19 de septiembre de 2019 12:48:33 (CEST) Harald Sitter wrote:
> With that in mind I would propose that we make a statement, but not to
> the FSF... our statement should be one in support of a healthy,
> diverse and inclusive free software community to that very community
> at large.
Am Donnerstag, 19. September 2019, 10:31:38 CEST schrieb Christian Loosli:
> I think that people should be elected into positions based on their
> suitability for that position, which means that things like sex, gender,
> race, cultural background, sexual orientation etc. pp.
Race? Sounds like
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 10:29 AM Jens wrote:
>
> TBH I worry less about past transgressions or the communicative fallout
> than I do a lack of response from us. (this is me not having a blessed
> clue what exactly went down 2009)
>
> I do agree with you on many points and I think you raise a lot
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 4:59 AM Valorie Zimmerman
wrote:
> As many of you know, Richard Stallman has stepped down from the FSF. However,
> his supporters on the FSF Board remain. The FSF is on our Advisory Board,
> according to https://ev.kde.org/advisoryboard.php
>
> Accordingly, I would like
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 9:31 AM Christian Loosli wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I mostly agree with Agustin and Jens:
>
> I think that people should be elected into positions based on their
> suitability for that position, which means that things like sex, gender,
> race,
> cultural background, sexual
Hello again,
a clarification from my side...
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 8:16 AM Agustín Benito wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I am against this. I find disrespectful to tell a fellow organization what
> they should do. I would feel the same way if anybody does it to us.
>
KDE eV is not an affiliate of
Hi,
yes, what Christian says is a maybe more elaborate phrasing of what I also
wanted to say.
Greetings!
On 9/19/19 10:31 AM, Christian Loosli wrote:
Hi all,
I mostly agree with Agustin and Jens:
I think that people should be elected into positions based on their
suitability for that
Il giorno Wed, 18 Sep 2019 19:59:09 -0700
Valorie Zimmerman
ha scritto:
> Accordingly, I would like us (the KDE Community) to advise them to
> diversify their Board, as RedHat has done here:
At this point, it is too late, IMO. Additionally, KDE is in
no position to tell the FSF what to do.
Hi all,
I mostly agree with Agustin and Jens:
I think that people should be elected into positions based on their
suitability for that position, which means that things like sex, gender, race,
cultural background, sexual orientation etc. pp. should neither be an
advantage nor a
TBH I worry less about past transgressions or the communicative fallout
than I do a lack of response from us. (this is me not having a blessed
clue what exactly went down 2009)
I do agree with you on many points and I think you raise a lot of good
concerns at the same time, we missed the boat
KDE would be the first organization not directly linked to FSF to issue a
public statement on this. It would also come over a week after RMS' statements
gained media attention, and several days after his resignation.
If we wanted to voice our desire for a more open FOSS community, we should
On 19/09/2019 –– 09:54:00AM +0200, Sven Brauch wrote:
> I am against diversifying for diversifying's sake. It's something that is
> already way too prevalent in today's society. Let's please pick the best
> person for the job, regardless of race, gender, or whatever, and let's
> especially
I would like to voice my support for Valorie's and Paul's statements
here. Ie: that we do comment and suggest that they diversify their
board, do it publicly, but be very VERY careful to ensure that our
support of them comes across.
We need to do this publicly too - not to excuse our past
I understand RH. The gamemis political now, is a chance to make FSF a real
org to match Linux Foundation power domination recently. They just can't
speak directly about this, but use the nice inclusion topic, helping then
to say the message without been heavy political sided.
And i want raise a
On Thu, 19 Sep 2019, 08:17 Agustín Benito, wrote:
> we should support them, not tell them what to do.
>
One of RMSs best-known transgressions took place on _our_ stage at Gran
Canaria. We did not exactly take much action at the time.
If this community really cares about Free Software and
Hello,
I am against this. I find disrespectful to tell a fellow organization what
they should do. I would feel the same way if anybody does it to us.
There are things that should be dealt in private. This is one of them.
The most important thing is that they make the right choice, not the most
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