Re: Retirement of notes.kde.org

2019-09-19 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 1:11 PM Aleix Pol  wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 1:09 PM Ben Cooksley  wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:55 PM Aleix Pol  wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 4:34 AM Ben Cooksley  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 2:50 AM Aleix Pol  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 8:58 PM Ben Cooksley  
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Good evening all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Currently we're in the situation where the software we use to run
> > > > > > notes.kde.org is both difficult to maintain, as well as support (for
> > > > > > things like document confidentiality for various groups within KDE).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We'd therefore like to retire the service, replacing it with the
> > > > > > Realtime Text Editor within Nextcloud (share.kde.org). Internally 
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > editor uses Markdown.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can find a demo of this at 
> > > > > > https://share.kde.org/s/gtFcRmwetRKqTZJ
> > > > > > (no login required)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It would be appreciated if everyone could please test the realtime
> > > > > > text editor and let us know if they encounter any issues.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In terms of feature differences, we are aware that
> > > > > > highlighting/authorship information won't be retained by the new
> > > > > > editor, and there can occasionally be problems when editing the same
> > > > > > line with someone else simultaneously.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If everyone is okay with this we'd like to go ahead with shutting 
> > > > > > down
> > > > > > notes.kde.org as soon as possible.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Ben Cooksley
> > > > > > KDE Sysadmin
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > Is the new editor already usable on share.kde.org? If I create a text
> > > > > file I get a different thing than your demo.
> > > >
> > > > It should be yes. Did you create a new document or a new text document?
> > > >
> > > > This new editor only works with text documents (slightly confusingly)
> > > > as the document editor is a version of LibreOffice Online (for more
> > > > fully featured documents)
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Aleix
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Ben
> > >
> > > It was a new text document, AFAIR. This is what it looks like:
> > > https://i.imgur.com/6RhmNLK.png
> >
> > Ah, that is the same editor, just in logged in mode.
> >
> > If you were to create a publicly accessible link, and use that to
> > access the document then you'd get a view that looks exactly like the
> > one I created.
> > In the logged in version you get the ability to see things like prior
> > versions (accessible through the sidebar, which you can open by
> > clicking the icon in the top right)
> >
> > If you're missing any controls then you may need to perform a force
> > refresh (Ctrl + F5).
> >
> > >
> > > Aleix
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Ben
>
> Ah, okay, cool, thanks!
>
> BTW, it will be really handy to be able to have publicly editable
> texts, this had been a problem for me in the past (that people needed
> to be in identity.kde.org).

No worries - glad to hear that the feature will be very useful.

The ability to have publicly editable texts is one of several feature
improvements we get by switching to this new editor :)

>
> Aleix

Cheers,
Ben


Re: Retirement of notes.kde.org

2019-09-19 Thread Aleix Pol
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 1:09 PM Ben Cooksley  wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:55 PM Aleix Pol  wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 4:34 AM Ben Cooksley  wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 2:50 AM Aleix Pol  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 8:58 PM Ben Cooksley  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Good evening all,
> > > > >
> > > > > Currently we're in the situation where the software we use to run
> > > > > notes.kde.org is both difficult to maintain, as well as support (for
> > > > > things like document confidentiality for various groups within KDE).
> > > > >
> > > > > We'd therefore like to retire the service, replacing it with the
> > > > > Realtime Text Editor within Nextcloud (share.kde.org). Internally this
> > > > > editor uses Markdown.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can find a demo of this at https://share.kde.org/s/gtFcRmwetRKqTZJ
> > > > > (no login required)
> > > > >
> > > > > It would be appreciated if everyone could please test the realtime
> > > > > text editor and let us know if they encounter any issues.
> > > > >
> > > > > In terms of feature differences, we are aware that
> > > > > highlighting/authorship information won't be retained by the new
> > > > > editor, and there can occasionally be problems when editing the same
> > > > > line with someone else simultaneously.
> > > > >
> > > > > If everyone is okay with this we'd like to go ahead with shutting down
> > > > > notes.kde.org as soon as possible.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Ben Cooksley
> > > > > KDE Sysadmin
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > Is the new editor already usable on share.kde.org? If I create a text
> > > > file I get a different thing than your demo.
> > >
> > > It should be yes. Did you create a new document or a new text document?
> > >
> > > This new editor only works with text documents (slightly confusingly)
> > > as the document editor is a version of LibreOffice Online (for more
> > > fully featured documents)
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Aleix
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Ben
> >
> > It was a new text document, AFAIR. This is what it looks like:
> > https://i.imgur.com/6RhmNLK.png
>
> Ah, that is the same editor, just in logged in mode.
>
> If you were to create a publicly accessible link, and use that to
> access the document then you'd get a view that looks exactly like the
> one I created.
> In the logged in version you get the ability to see things like prior
> versions (accessible through the sidebar, which you can open by
> clicking the icon in the top right)
>
> If you're missing any controls then you may need to perform a force
> refresh (Ctrl + F5).
>
> >
> > Aleix
>
> Cheers,
> Ben

Ah, okay, cool, thanks!

BTW, it will be really handy to be able to have publicly editable
texts, this had been a problem for me in the past (that people needed
to be in identity.kde.org).

Aleix


Re: Retirement of notes.kde.org

2019-09-19 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:55 PM Aleix Pol  wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 4:34 AM Ben Cooksley  wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 2:50 AM Aleix Pol  wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 8:58 PM Ben Cooksley  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Good evening all,
> > > >
> > > > Currently we're in the situation where the software we use to run
> > > > notes.kde.org is both difficult to maintain, as well as support (for
> > > > things like document confidentiality for various groups within KDE).
> > > >
> > > > We'd therefore like to retire the service, replacing it with the
> > > > Realtime Text Editor within Nextcloud (share.kde.org). Internally this
> > > > editor uses Markdown.
> > > >
> > > > You can find a demo of this at https://share.kde.org/s/gtFcRmwetRKqTZJ
> > > > (no login required)
> > > >
> > > > It would be appreciated if everyone could please test the realtime
> > > > text editor and let us know if they encounter any issues.
> > > >
> > > > In terms of feature differences, we are aware that
> > > > highlighting/authorship information won't be retained by the new
> > > > editor, and there can occasionally be problems when editing the same
> > > > line with someone else simultaneously.
> > > >
> > > > If everyone is okay with this we'd like to go ahead with shutting down
> > > > notes.kde.org as soon as possible.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Ben Cooksley
> > > > KDE Sysadmin
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > Is the new editor already usable on share.kde.org? If I create a text
> > > file I get a different thing than your demo.
> >
> > It should be yes. Did you create a new document or a new text document?
> >
> > This new editor only works with text documents (slightly confusingly)
> > as the document editor is a version of LibreOffice Online (for more
> > fully featured documents)
> >
> > >
> > > Aleix
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Ben
>
> It was a new text document, AFAIR. This is what it looks like:
> https://i.imgur.com/6RhmNLK.png

Ah, that is the same editor, just in logged in mode.

If you were to create a publicly accessible link, and use that to
access the document then you'd get a view that looks exactly like the
one I created.
In the logged in version you get the ability to see things like prior
versions (accessible through the sidebar, which you can open by
clicking the icon in the top right)

If you're missing any controls then you may need to perform a force
refresh (Ctrl + F5).

>
> Aleix

Cheers,
Ben


Re: Retirement of notes.kde.org

2019-09-19 Thread Aleix Pol
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 4:34 AM Ben Cooksley  wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 2:50 AM Aleix Pol  wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 8:58 PM Ben Cooksley  wrote:
> > >
> > > Good evening all,
> > >
> > > Currently we're in the situation where the software we use to run
> > > notes.kde.org is both difficult to maintain, as well as support (for
> > > things like document confidentiality for various groups within KDE).
> > >
> > > We'd therefore like to retire the service, replacing it with the
> > > Realtime Text Editor within Nextcloud (share.kde.org). Internally this
> > > editor uses Markdown.
> > >
> > > You can find a demo of this at https://share.kde.org/s/gtFcRmwetRKqTZJ
> > > (no login required)
> > >
> > > It would be appreciated if everyone could please test the realtime
> > > text editor and let us know if they encounter any issues.
> > >
> > > In terms of feature differences, we are aware that
> > > highlighting/authorship information won't be retained by the new
> > > editor, and there can occasionally be problems when editing the same
> > > line with someone else simultaneously.
> > >
> > > If everyone is okay with this we'd like to go ahead with shutting down
> > > notes.kde.org as soon as possible.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ben Cooksley
> > > KDE Sysadmin
> >
> > Hi,
> > Is the new editor already usable on share.kde.org? If I create a text
> > file I get a different thing than your demo.
>
> It should be yes. Did you create a new document or a new text document?
>
> This new editor only works with text documents (slightly confusingly)
> as the document editor is a version of LibreOffice Online (for more
> fully featured documents)
>
> >
> > Aleix
>
> Cheers,
> Ben

It was a new text document, AFAIR. This is what it looks like:
https://i.imgur.com/6RhmNLK.png

Aleix


Re: Retirement of notes.kde.org

2019-09-18 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 2:50 AM Aleix Pol  wrote:
>
> On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 8:58 PM Ben Cooksley  wrote:
> >
> > Good evening all,
> >
> > Currently we're in the situation where the software we use to run
> > notes.kde.org is both difficult to maintain, as well as support (for
> > things like document confidentiality for various groups within KDE).
> >
> > We'd therefore like to retire the service, replacing it with the
> > Realtime Text Editor within Nextcloud (share.kde.org). Internally this
> > editor uses Markdown.
> >
> > You can find a demo of this at https://share.kde.org/s/gtFcRmwetRKqTZJ
> > (no login required)
> >
> > It would be appreciated if everyone could please test the realtime
> > text editor and let us know if they encounter any issues.
> >
> > In terms of feature differences, we are aware that
> > highlighting/authorship information won't be retained by the new
> > editor, and there can occasionally be problems when editing the same
> > line with someone else simultaneously.
> >
> > If everyone is okay with this we'd like to go ahead with shutting down
> > notes.kde.org as soon as possible.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ben Cooksley
> > KDE Sysadmin
>
> Hi,
> Is the new editor already usable on share.kde.org? If I create a text
> file I get a different thing than your demo.

It should be yes. Did you create a new document or a new text document?

This new editor only works with text documents (slightly confusingly)
as the document editor is a version of LibreOffice Online (for more
fully featured documents)

>
> Aleix

Cheers,
Ben


Re: Retirement of notes.kde.org

2019-09-18 Thread Aleix Pol
On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 8:58 PM Ben Cooksley  wrote:
>
> Good evening all,
>
> Currently we're in the situation where the software we use to run
> notes.kde.org is both difficult to maintain, as well as support (for
> things like document confidentiality for various groups within KDE).
>
> We'd therefore like to retire the service, replacing it with the
> Realtime Text Editor within Nextcloud (share.kde.org). Internally this
> editor uses Markdown.
>
> You can find a demo of this at https://share.kde.org/s/gtFcRmwetRKqTZJ
> (no login required)
>
> It would be appreciated if everyone could please test the realtime
> text editor and let us know if they encounter any issues.
>
> In terms of feature differences, we are aware that
> highlighting/authorship information won't be retained by the new
> editor, and there can occasionally be problems when editing the same
> line with someone else simultaneously.
>
> If everyone is okay with this we'd like to go ahead with shutting down
> notes.kde.org as soon as possible.
>
> Thanks,
> Ben Cooksley
> KDE Sysadmin

Hi,
Is the new editor already usable on share.kde.org? If I create a text
file I get a different thing than your demo.

Aleix


Re: Retirement of notes.kde.org

2019-09-18 Thread Ben Cooksley
Hi all,

Just bringing this thread to a bit of a conclusion, are we all happy
for the replacement of notes.kde.org to go ahead?

>From my reading through of this thread, i've seen people raise
concerns about the following:
- Author colours (which weren't 100% reliable on notes.kde.org in any
case as they sometimes disappeared)
- History information
- Occasional issues with typing on the same line
- More complex process to start a new pad or be linked to an existing one

>From my understanding, the developers of the plugin we're using (which
is under active development) have plans to bring author tracking /
colouring in a later release, and chances are there will be further
improvements to syncing in later releases as well.

Thanks,
Ben


Re: Retirement of notes.kde.org

2019-09-18 Thread Albert Vaca Cintora
On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 8:55 PM Kai Uwe Broulik  wrote:
>
> > The fact that URLs were random, kind of gave me
> > the feeling that they were only to be viewed by people with the link.
>
> You're aware that there's an overview by letter on notes.kde.org? :)
>

D'oh! Never mind then.


Re: Retirement of notes.kde.org

2019-09-18 Thread Kai Uwe Broulik

The fact that URLs were random, kind of gave me
the feeling that they were only to be viewed by people with the link.


You're aware that there's an overview by letter on notes.kde.org? :)

Cheers
Kai Uwe


Re: Retirement of notes.kde.org

2019-09-18 Thread Albert Vaca Cintora
On lunedì 16 settembre 2019 08:03:31 CEST Ben Cooksley wrote:
> The content of notes.kde.org will be exported - likely in ODT format -
> prior to us shutting it down.
> The resulting files will be made available on share.kde.org.

I'm sure I've written things in notes that I don't want to go public
(email drafts, etc) :/ The fact that URLs were random, kind of gave me
the feeling that they were only to be viewed by people with the link.

Can it be made so those files on share.kde.org are only visible to the
people who created them on notes.kde.org? This way, it will be the
user's choice to make them public or not.


Re: Retirement of notes.kde.org

2019-09-16 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 7:49 PM Riccardo Iaconelli
 wrote:
>
> Hi Ben,

Hi Riccardo,

>
> On lunedì 16 settembre 2019 08:03:31 CEST Ben Cooksley wrote:
> > The content of notes.kde.org will be exported - likely in ODT format -
> > prior to us shutting it down.
> > The resulting files will be made available on share.kde.org.
> >
> > If there are things which need to be resolved prior to the shutdown of
> > notes.kde.org we can look into those.
> >
> > While it is unfortunate that the links will be broken, we should be
> > able to make them relatively close (ie. send the user to a public view
> > of the folder on share.kde.org which contains all of the content
> > exported from notes.kde.org) so the user isn't too far from the
> > original link.
>
> will we expose any content to the public indexing? I know of a few documents
> which relied on the protection of being unlisted from Google to draft emails
> or other group notes which are not entirely for the public to search through.

Group notes that were created within a group namespace previously
registered with Sysadmin (which will have a corresponding group on
Identity) will only be made accessible to that group (via a special
folder on share.kde.org) following the export/shutdown of Notes. These
pads can be denoted by the -private- in the name of the pad.

For all other files, they'll be made publicly accessible to a certain
degree, so i'd recommend blanking the content of any notes that
shouldn't be made public prior to the shutdown.

>
> Riccardo
>
>
>

Cheers,
Ben


Re: Retirement of notes.kde.org

2019-09-16 Thread Simon Redman



On September 15, 2019 11:03:31 PM PDT, Ben Cooksley  wrote:
>On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 5:14 AM Valorie Zimmerman
> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Ben,
>
>Hi Valorie,
>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 11:58 AM Ben Cooksley 
>wrote:
>>>
>>> Good evening all,
>>>
>>> Currently we're in the situation where the software we use to run
>>> notes.kde.org is both difficult to maintain, as well as support (for
>>> things like document confidentiality for various groups within KDE).
>>>
>>> We'd therefore like to retire the service, replacing it with the
>>> Realtime Text Editor within Nextcloud (share.kde.org). Internally
>this
>>> editor uses Markdown.
>>>
>>> You can find a demo of this at
>https://share.kde.org/s/gtFcRmwetRKqTZJ
>>> (no login required)
>>>
>>> It would be appreciated if everyone could please test the realtime
>>> text editor and let us know if they encounter any issues.
>>>
>>> In terms of feature differences, we are aware that
>>> highlighting/authorship information won't be retained by the new
>>> editor, and there can occasionally be problems when editing the same
>>> line with someone else simultaneously.
>>>
>>> If everyone is okay with this we'd like to go ahead with shutting
>down
>>> notes.kde.org as soon as possible.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ben Cooksley
>>> KDE Sysadmin
>>
>>
>> I noticed that most every BoF at Akademy this year used notes to link
>the BoF notes. Will all these notes be just disappeared? If so, that is
>really unfortunate. There is a reason many of us continue to use notes.
>One can see who typed what, one can see the history of the doc - and
>other points mentioned on https://share.kde.org/s/gtFcRmwetRKqTZJ.
>>
>> ::sigh::
>
>The content of notes.kde.org will be exported - likely in ODT format -
>prior to us shutting it down.
>The resulting files will be made available on share.kde.org.
>
>If there are things which need to be resolved prior to the shutdown of
>notes.kde.org we can look into those.
>
>While it is unfortunate that the links will be broken, we should be
>able to make them relatively close (ie. send the user to a public view
>of the folder on share.kde.org which contains all of the content
>exported from notes.kde.org) so the user isn't too far from the
>original link.
>
>In terms of feature regressions i'm tracking, I see the following:
>- Lack of editor highlighting
>- No stored history aside from Nextcloud versioning
>- Slightly harder to create new documents
>
>Any other comments on this which I missed from the document?
>
>Cheers,
>Ben
>
>>
>> Valorie
>> --
>> http://about.me/valoriez - pronouns: she/her
>>
>>

I personally don't find the author highlighting very necessary. For one thing, 
the information of who actually wrote a color often seems to go missing from 
notes.kde.org anyway. Granted, I have not been around here very long, so maybe 
I just haven't seen a killer use for it. Does anyone have one come to mind?

Again from the point of view of someone who hasn't been around for very long, I 
made a face when I saw the notes.kde.org landing screen and interface. It gave 
me the impression that KDE infrastructure was stuck in the past. One big 
advantage IMO is that the new tool feels much more modern and inviting, which 
might help retain new contributors. It may sound petty, but I imagine there are 
some people who would see that and run away.
(This is not to knock notes.kde.org. Once I started using it I thought it was 
nice and useful, but crossing that initial barrier is important)

Thanks,
Simon


Re: Retirement of notes.kde.org

2019-09-16 Thread Riccardo Iaconelli
Hi Ben,

On lunedì 16 settembre 2019 08:03:31 CEST Ben Cooksley wrote:
> The content of notes.kde.org will be exported - likely in ODT format -
> prior to us shutting it down.
> The resulting files will be made available on share.kde.org.
> 
> If there are things which need to be resolved prior to the shutdown of
> notes.kde.org we can look into those.
> 
> While it is unfortunate that the links will be broken, we should be
> able to make them relatively close (ie. send the user to a public view
> of the folder on share.kde.org which contains all of the content
> exported from notes.kde.org) so the user isn't too far from the
> original link.

will we expose any content to the public indexing? I know of a few documents 
which relied on the protection of being unlisted from Google to draft emails 
or other group notes which are not entirely for the public to search through.

Riccardo





Re: Retirement of notes.kde.org

2019-09-16 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 5:14 AM Valorie Zimmerman
 wrote:
>
> Hey Ben,

Hi Valorie,

>
> On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 11:58 AM Ben Cooksley  wrote:
>>
>> Good evening all,
>>
>> Currently we're in the situation where the software we use to run
>> notes.kde.org is both difficult to maintain, as well as support (for
>> things like document confidentiality for various groups within KDE).
>>
>> We'd therefore like to retire the service, replacing it with the
>> Realtime Text Editor within Nextcloud (share.kde.org). Internally this
>> editor uses Markdown.
>>
>> You can find a demo of this at https://share.kde.org/s/gtFcRmwetRKqTZJ
>> (no login required)
>>
>> It would be appreciated if everyone could please test the realtime
>> text editor and let us know if they encounter any issues.
>>
>> In terms of feature differences, we are aware that
>> highlighting/authorship information won't be retained by the new
>> editor, and there can occasionally be problems when editing the same
>> line with someone else simultaneously.
>>
>> If everyone is okay with this we'd like to go ahead with shutting down
>> notes.kde.org as soon as possible.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ben Cooksley
>> KDE Sysadmin
>
>
> I noticed that most every BoF at Akademy this year used notes to link the BoF 
> notes. Will all these notes be just disappeared? If so, that is really 
> unfortunate. There is a reason many of us continue to use notes. One can see 
> who typed what, one can see the history of the doc - and other points 
> mentioned on https://share.kde.org/s/gtFcRmwetRKqTZJ.
>
> ::sigh::

The content of notes.kde.org will be exported - likely in ODT format -
prior to us shutting it down.
The resulting files will be made available on share.kde.org.

If there are things which need to be resolved prior to the shutdown of
notes.kde.org we can look into those.

While it is unfortunate that the links will be broken, we should be
able to make them relatively close (ie. send the user to a public view
of the folder on share.kde.org which contains all of the content
exported from notes.kde.org) so the user isn't too far from the
original link.

In terms of feature regressions i'm tracking, I see the following:
- Lack of editor highlighting
- No stored history aside from Nextcloud versioning
- Slightly harder to create new documents

Any other comments on this which I missed from the document?

Cheers,
Ben

>
> Valorie
> --
> http://about.me/valoriez - pronouns: she/her
>
>


Re: Retirement of notes.kde.org

2019-09-15 Thread Valorie Zimmerman
Hey Ben,

On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 11:58 AM Ben Cooksley  wrote:

> Good evening all,
>
> Currently we're in the situation where the software we use to run
> notes.kde.org is both difficult to maintain, as well as support (for
> things like document confidentiality for various groups within KDE).
>
> We'd therefore like to retire the service, replacing it with the
> Realtime Text Editor within Nextcloud (share.kde.org). Internally this
> editor uses Markdown.
>
> You can find a demo of this at https://share.kde.org/s/gtFcRmwetRKqTZJ
> (no login required)
>
> It would be appreciated if everyone could please test the realtime
> text editor and let us know if they encounter any issues.
>
> In terms of feature differences, we are aware that
> highlighting/authorship information won't be retained by the new
> editor, and there can occasionally be problems when editing the same
> line with someone else simultaneously.
>
> If everyone is okay with this we'd like to go ahead with shutting down
> notes.kde.org as soon as possible.
>
> Thanks,
> Ben Cooksley
> KDE Sysadmin
>

I noticed that most every BoF at Akademy this year used notes to link the
BoF notes. Will all these notes be just disappeared? If so, that is really
unfortunate. There is a reason many of us continue to use notes. One can
see who typed what, one can see the history of the doc - and other points
mentioned on https://share.kde.org/s/gtFcRmwetRKqTZJ.

::sigh::

Valorie
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