Re: Review Request 126345: PythonMacros: specify destination directory in byte-compiled files

2015-12-14 Thread Alex Merry
Python3 issues? - Alex Merry On Dec. 14, 2015, 4:48 p.m., Raphael Kubo da Costa wrote: > > --- > This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: > https://git.reviewboard.kde.

Re: Review Request 126345: PythonMacros: specify destination directory in byte-compiled files

2015-12-14 Thread Alex Merry
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/126345/#review89506 --- Ship it! Ship It! - Alex Merry On Dec. 14, 2015, 4:48 p.m

Re: Review Request 126345: PythonMacros: specify destination directory in byte-compiled files

2015-12-14 Thread Alex Merry
> On Dec. 14, 2015, 6:24 p.m., Alex Merry wrote: > > Seems sensible to me. Are there any potential Python2 vs Python3 issues? > > Raphael Kubo da Costa wrote: > I don't think there are any -- the `.pyc/.pyo` files are installed with a > different name into a differe

Re: Maintenance of api.kde.org

2015-11-05 Thread Alex Merry
On 2015-11-05 09:22, Ben Cooksley wrote: Hi all, For some time it has been apparent that api.kde.org is experiencing some issues with maintenance. It doesn't really fall into sysadmin's domain, but developers often lack the knowledge on how to get Doxygen working as needed to build projects API

Re: Adding further modules to api.kde.org

2015-09-27 Thread Alex Merry
On 2015-09-19 18:11, Allen Winter wrote: On Saturday, September 19, 2015 07:03:40 PM Martin Graesslin wrote: On Saturday, September 19, 2015 12:54:57 PM CEST you wrote: > http://api.kde.org/4.x-api/workspace-apidocs/kwayland/html/index.html > look ok? hmm that doesn't use the wonderful

Re: Review Request 125236: FindQt4: Use CHECK_CXX_SYMBOL_EXISTS instead of CHECK_C_SYMBOL_EXISTS.

2015-09-17 Thread Alex Merry
frozen to some degree. - Alex Merry On Sept. 15, 2015, 8:59 a.m., Raphael Kubo da Costa wrote: > > --- > This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: > https://git.reviewboard.kde.

Re: What to do with our default hidden visibility for symbols?

2015-08-16 Thread Alex Merry
On 2015-08-14 10:01, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: Hi, ECM's KDECompilerSettings.cmake contains:  # Default to hidden visibility for symbols  set(CMAKE_CXX_VISIBILITY_PRESET hidden)  set(CMAKE_VISIBILITY_INLINES_HIDDEN 1) This raises a warning [1] for CMake 3.3+ and ignores this. David Faure and I

Re: building kio on Mac

2015-06-06 Thread Alex Merry
On Wednesday 27 May 2015 06:56:29 Allen Winter wrote: On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 09:12:13 AM Scarlett Clark wrote: On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 12:06:22 PM Allen Winter wrote: % kdesrc-build kio Could not locate file kf5/kdoctools/customization in (/Users/allenwinter/Library/Application

Re: building kio on Mac

2015-06-06 Thread Alex Merry
On Saturday 06 June 2015 13:12:24 Jeremy Whiting wrote: One of the reasons I'm not installing into /Library/Application Support is to not require sudo. I believe macports itself has policies of not installing to either of these paths though, so it's not a proper solution for macports I guess.

Re: Porting to KF5 - kimageio question

2015-05-10 Thread Alex Merry
On Saturday 09 May 2015 22:54:49 Martin Koller wrote: I'm working on porting kolourpaint to kf5. Now I find the following: KDELIBS4SUPPORT_DEPRECATED_EXPORT QStringList typeForMime(const QString mimeType); The comment says: Use QMimeType::name() instead(). However this seems incorrect.

Re: Syncing ECM release number with KF5

2015-04-05 Thread Alex Merry
On Monday 06 April 2015 02:57:11 Michael Palimaka wrote: On 04/04/15 19:44, David Faure wrote: But since both Stephen Kelly and Alex Merry (maintainers of ECM) are in favour of switching, I'll make the switch. Well, there's a bit of a difference between no objections and support

Re: Syncing ECM release number with KF5

2015-03-27 Thread Alex Merry
On Wednesday 25 March 2015 22:35:24 Stephen Kelly wrote: Hello, ECM release numbers are in sync with KF5 release numbers, except for the major component. This means that if you want to build the 5.x.y release you have to download the 1.x.y release of ECM. That doubles the complexity of

Re: Multiplatform frameworks

2015-03-01 Thread Alex Merry
On Friday 27 February 2015 22:55:18 Alex Merry wrote: On Friday 27 February 2015 13:29:59 Jeremy Whiting wrote: On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 4:05 AM, Alex Merry alex.me...@kde.org wrote: 4. Use the PATH_VARS to ecm_configure_package_config_file(). ecm_configure_package_config_file

Re: Fwd: gpl violation ?

2015-02-27 Thread Alex Merry
Forwarding to kde-licensing, which is the proper venue for this. Please keep any further discussion there. On Friday 27 February 2015 17:41:01 Pali Rohár wrote: Hello, I'm forwarding message from Daniel. What is license of KDE icons? Can we do something with (possible) GPL violation?

Re: Multiplatform frameworks

2015-02-27 Thread Alex Merry
On Wednesday 25 February 2015 19:10:08 Jeremy Whiting wrote: One issue I found however is that some frameworks (maybe all?) have a KF5FooConfig.cmake.in with ${PACKAGE_PREFIX_PATH}/@KDE_INSTALL_DATADIR@ in them to specify where to find the data files. On my OS X install that was getting filled

Re: Multiplatform frameworks

2015-02-27 Thread Alex Merry
On Friday 27 February 2015 13:29:59 Jeremy Whiting wrote: 3. Use absolute paths for KDE_INSTALL_DATADIR everywhere and remove ${PACKAGE_PREFIX_PATH} completely. There is KDE_INSTALL_FULL_DATADIR, which is absolute. However, that removes the relocatability of the package that

Re: make uninstall

2015-02-04 Thread Alex Merry
On Monday 02 February 2015 21:49:22 Albert Astals Cid wrote: El Divendres, 30 de gener de 2015, a les 10:47:22, Alex Merry va escriure: On Friday 30 January 2015 10:44:23 Alex Merry wrote: Over on kde-frameworks-devel, there have been several requests to bring back `make uninstall

make uninstall

2015-01-30 Thread Alex Merry
Over on kde-frameworks-devel, there have been several requests to bring back `make uninstall` for KF5 and KF5-based projects. KDELibs4 used to define this for any dependent projects (it's essentially `xargs rm install_manifest.txt` under the hood), and we could easily add it to

Re: make uninstall

2015-01-30 Thread Alex Merry
On Friday 30 January 2015 10:44:23 Alex Merry wrote: Over on kde-frameworks-devel, there have been several requests to bring back `make uninstall` for KF5 and KF5-based projects. KDELibs4 used to define this for any dependent projects (it's essentially `xargs rm install_manifest.txt` under

Re: Another proposal for modernization of our infrastructure

2015-01-28 Thread Alex Merry
On Wednesday 28 January 2015 12:27:06 Jan Kundrát wrote: On Wednesday, 28 January 2015 10:08:54 CEST, Ben Cooksley wrote: 11) We actually do use some of Jenkins advanced features, and it offers quite a lot more than just a visual view of the last failure. As a quick overview: a)

Re: Another proposal for modernization of our infrastructure

2015-01-28 Thread Alex Merry
On Wednesday 28 January 2015 13:14:14 Martin Gräßlin wrote: At the moment I must say that I find gerrit's web interface extremely cumbersome to use. This is something I experienced with both Qt's as well as KDE's setup. Navigation through the code is difficult, you cannot see the complete

Re: Changes to our Git infrastructure

2014-12-26 Thread Alex Merry
On Thursday 25 December 2014 21:20:53 Ben Cooksley wrote: No comments on scratch or clone repositories? Or the movement of repositories? Or how anongit functions (what you find works least well, etc)? I'm not too sure of the utility of clone repos. TBH, I would rather push towards keeping

Re: Changes to branch management

2014-12-26 Thread Alex Merry
On Thursday 25 December 2014 20:29:12 Thomas Friedrichsmeier wrote: On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 20:21:05 +1300 Ben Cooksley bcooks...@kde.org wrote: 3) People are free to create and delete to all branches below work/*. Creation and deletion of branches outside this would be limited to project

Re: Changes to branch management

2014-12-23 Thread Alex Merry
On Wednesday 24 December 2014 00:04:22 Ben Cooksley wrote: The first seems the least contentious: allowing all developers to delete branches on our mainline repositories, except for certain protected branches (like master and KDE/* for instance). Any suggestions or variations on this? I

Re: Changes to our Git infrastructure

2014-12-23 Thread Alex Merry
On Wednesday 24 December 2014 00:20:18 Ben Cooksley wrote: Hi all, As has been made evident in the prior thread there are quite a few interesting ideas floating around about what our Git infrastructure should be capable of. Our current one was constructed when KDE first seriously migrated

Re: desktoptojson and list properties / i18n of JSON files

2014-11-18 Thread Alex Merry
On Tuesday 18 November 2014 23:45:56 Albert Astals Cid wrote: I didn't even know we were using json now. Why did we change from .desktop file to .json ones? What's the benefit? Seems like .desktop files did their job good enough and we have all the tooling available already. Because that's

Re: Review Request 121147: Define _DEFAULT_SOURCE together with _BSD_SOURCE.

2014-11-17 Thread Alex Merry
) summary page, this is what the glibc maintainers recommend, so we should do it. - Alex Merry On Nov. 17, 2014, 3:48 p.m., Milian Wolff wrote: --- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r

Re: _BSD_SOURCE and _GNU_SOURCE

2014-11-14 Thread Alex Merry
On Friday 14 November 2014 17:36:10 Aleix Pol wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Milian Wolff m...@milianw.de wrote: Hello all. Since recently I get spammed by warnings such as this one: /ssd/milian/projects/kde4/kdelibs/kdecore/network/klocalsocket_unix.cpp:22 :

Re: Retiring and testament

2014-09-14 Thread Alex Merry
On 2014-09-09 16:41, Kevin Ottens wrote: Now, let's get to the subject of this email: effective immediately I will be stepping back from KDE Frameworks to refocus my energy elsewhere in KDE. Some of you probably saw this coming as I was already less active over the past few weeks. Thank you

Re: Pushing AppStream data to KDE project's master branches

2014-08-03 Thread Alex Merry
On Sunday 03 August 2014 01:41:29 Matthias Klumpp wrote: We are speaking of a small bit of XML, which is placed in CMAKE_INSTALL_METAINFODIR (/usr/share/appdata) - so this is not a change which could break anything (in case you still don't like it, you can always git-revert, but in that case,

Re: KF5 Update Meeting Minutes 2014-w28

2014-07-08 Thread Alex Merry
On Tuesday 08 July 2014 17:30:19 Kevin Ottens wrote: * he's also like to see the android port progress, in particular he got no answer about getting a file in ECM to that effect; Sorry, life's a bit crazy at the mo. Will try to look at soon. Although I'd appreciate the input of anyone else

Re: Review Request 118851: Kde-baseapps- KF5 replace generic soversion.

2014-06-20 Thread Alex Merry
probably move to the lib/konq/CMakeLists.txt file. CMakeLists.txt https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/118851/#comment42290 This should probably move the the dolphin/src/CMakeLists.txt file - Alex Merry On June 20, 2014, 5:53 p.m., Scarlett Clark wrote

Re: Review Request 118851: Kde-baseapps- KF5 replace generic soversion.

2014-06-20 Thread Alex Merry
/#comment42292 But now you'll want to put an actual version number in here (or remove the variable use altogether). - Alex Merry On June 20, 2014, 6:44 p.m., Scarlett Clark wrote: --- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply

Re: Review Request 118851: Kde-baseapps- KF5 replace generic soversion.

2014-06-20 Thread Alex Merry
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/118851/#review60620 --- Ship it! Ship It! - Alex Merry On June 20, 2014, 6:44 p.m

Re: Question about currencies

2014-05-06 Thread Alex Merry
On 05/05/14 23:03, Alvaro Soliverez wrote: I have a question about the currency features. In KLocale, you can get KCurrencyCode for the current locale, which is fine. Now, for KMyMoney we need to get the list of all currencies for all countries (since a user usually deals with multiple

Re: Help splitting kde-workspace

2014-03-30 Thread Alex Merry
On 30/03/14 12:24, Àlex Fiestas wrote: Hi there It was requested by the maintainers of some of the projects that live in the kde-workspace repo that they would love to keep the whole history after the split. Doing such thing is easy for projects that have not been moved (kwin,

KDNSSD repository renames

2014-03-17 Thread Alex Merry
Just to warn you that the kdnssd module in kdenetwork has been renamed to zeroconf-ioslave (since that's what it is), and the kdnssd-framework module in frameworks has been renamed to kdnssd. Given that only scripty and I have made commits to what is now zeroconf-ioslave since it was in svn, this

Change in application desktop file prefix

2014-02-14 Thread Alex Merry
kdelibs4 strongly encourages (by providing ${ICON_INSTALL_DIR}) its users to install their application desktop in $PREFIX/share/applications/kde4/. In KDEInstallDirs.cmake in extra-cmake-modules (the standard for KDE applications in a post-kdelibs world), we change this to

Re: Review Request 115492: Add WebP detection from content in the mime package file

2014-02-08 Thread Alex Merry
p.m.) Review request for KDE Runtime and Alex Merry. Repository: kde-runtime Description --- This adds match detection for webp files (both lossy and lossless), the same way as audio/x-wav files are detected (both are RIFF based) Diffs - kimgio/webp.xml

Re: Review Request 115492: Add WebP detection from content in the mime package file

2014-02-05 Thread Alex Merry
/115355 I'm not sure whether this should go into kde-runtime; I've lost track of how frozen various bits of KDE SC are. The change itself looks good, though. - Alex Merry On Feb. 5, 2014, 2:44 p.m., Jerome Leclanche wrote

Re: Review Request 115486: use renamed dbus interface files from kinit

2014-02-05 Thread Alex Merry
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/115486/#review49055 --- Ship it! Ship It! - Alex Merry On Feb. 4, 2014, 7:24 p.m

Re: building kf5

2014-01-11 Thread Alex Merry
On 11/01/14 10:25, Joseph Wenninger wrote: Hi! I'm trying to compile qt5 from the kde repositories, as described in http://community.kde.org/Frameworks/Building First I tried building without qtwebkit, but than the kdesignerplugin doesn't build which causes a lot of other things to fail

Re: building kf5

2014-01-11 Thread Alex Merry
On 11/01/14 10:25, Joseph Wenninger wrote: Hi! I'm trying to compile qt5 from the kde repositories, as described in http://community.kde.org/Frameworks/Building First I tried building without qtwebkit, but than the kdesignerplugin doesn't build which causes a lot of other things to fail

Re: KDE Frameworks: Moving toward 5.0 final and Governance

2014-01-07 Thread Alex Merry
On 06/01/14 06:52, Kevin Ottens wrote: I used to say that the maintenance model of kdelibs was David Faure by default. It's great to have someone like David around, but at the same time it's delusional and dangerous to think that he'll always be able to save the day. This model has to stop

Re: KF5 Update Meeting Minutes 2014-w2

2014-01-07 Thread Alex Merry
On 07/01/14 16:28, Kevin Ottens wrote: * alexmerry [...] plans to adopt kimageformats and kmediaplayer; Alex: Both KImageFormats and KMediaPlayer are your if you adjust the wiki page accordingly. I've also taken KDesignerPlugin; as far as I'm aware, I'm the only person to have done

Re: KDE Frameworks: Moving toward 5.0 final and Governance

2014-01-07 Thread Alex Merry
but I can't remember why now and I'm not sure it is still valid. Alex Merry might remember, was it because QPrintPreview wasn't available at the time? We may not end up with much left here :-) I don't remember, but looking at email archives and Qt docs, it looks like that probably

Re: KDE Frameworks: Moving toward 5.0 final and Governance

2014-01-07 Thread Alex Merry
On 07/01/14 22:30, John Layt wrote: Running through the print dialog features, I'm don't think there is anything left to be upstreamed. There's a couple of very minor CUPS features in the dialog that I don't think anyone uses (mirror page, page border, page label) that I don't really want in

Re: Review Request 114012: Remove kfileaudiopreview

2013-11-22 Thread Alex Merry
://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/114012/diff/ Testing --- cmake runs, builds, installs. Thanks, Alex Merry

Review Request 113993: Remove the nowplaying dataengine

2013-11-21 Thread Alex Merry
/playerinterface/xmms_p.h 10a6e51 Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/113993/diff/ Testing --- CMake still runs successfully. Thanks, Alex Merry

Re: Backporting Clang support to KDE 4.11 FindKDE4Internal.cmake

2013-08-05 Thread Alex Merry
On 05/08/13 20:55, Milian Wolff wrote: I'm out of the loop, since this is so close to the final release I'm not sure whether I should get this in... I'd say commit it; the patch is pretty trivial, and I can't see any way it could break the build for anyone not using Clang, and build fixes are

Fwd: Re: KIO progress towards tier 1 framework?

2013-07-02 Thread Alex Merry
I suspect a lot of people read both, but it's probably better to keep frameworks discussions on the frameworks list as much as possible. Forwarding there now. Alex Original Message Subject: Re: KIO progress towards tier 1 framework? Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 13:05:25 +0200 From:

Re: ALERT: KDElibs (at least) 4.8.4 is actually 4.8.80+

2012-06-09 Thread Alex Merry
On 09/06/12 14:30, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: personally, i think it is completely unnecessary and that we should all get used to it now because it could happen in future that Frameworks are released on a different release cycle to applications so that kdelibs version == workspaces version will

Re: ALERT: KDElibs (at least) 4.8.4 is actually 4.8.80+

2012-06-09 Thread Alex Merry
On 09/06/12 21:53, Alex Merry wrote: On 09/06/12 14:30, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: personally, i think it is completely unnecessary and that we should all get used to it now because it could happen in future that Frameworks are released on a different release cycle to applications so

Re: Requesting freeze exception for JtG

2011-11-22 Thread Alex Merry
On 22/11/11 01:51, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: Given that we are already feature frozen, I am hereby requesting a freeze exception for the following: This request should go to the release team mailing list, shouldn't it? Alex

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-22 Thread Alex Merry
On 20/11/11 20:57, Albert Astals Cid wrote: This sounds like a If you are going to disagree we don't want you in mantra, which is kind of worrying. I think it's more of a if you're going to keep returning to decisions that have already been made, we don't want you in. I'm not sure creating

Re: Review Request: udev PortableMediaPlayer: read protocols from media-player-info; docs

2011-11-21 Thread Alex Merry
back-end using media-player-info [3], the first attempt was [2] by Alex Merry and this patch is heavily based on it. This patch relates to a discussion at [1] and is just a first step, the second would be to forward PMP interface from udev backed to udisks backed somehow (udisks...Device

Re: FindKActivities.cmake missing from kdelibs KDE/4.7 ?

2011-10-17 Thread Alex Merry
On 17/10/11 18:10, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote: Hi, kde-workspace trunk is supposed to be compiled against kdelibs KDE/4.7, right? For me it seems that FindKActivities.cmake is missing then in kdelibs KDE/4.7 or kde-workspace trunk. Because kde-workspace/CMakeLists.txt has the line

Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

2011-10-03 Thread Alex Merry
On 01/10/11 15:27, Dario Freddi wrote: Me and Bjorn have been discussing extensively about how to improve the current situation with Power Management in KDE. We focused on simplicity, still without losing power-user features. And we have a plan I'd like to share and get some feedback on. I

Re: Who relies on Soprano::Model::statement[s]Added|Removed signals?

2011-09-30 Thread Alex Merry
On 30/09/11 12:36, Sebastian Trüg wrote: I would like to anyone using the old API to change to the new ResourceWatcher as soon as possible because I would like to disable the old signals soon. They simply entail to many problems and clutter the API. You might want to contact developers using

Re: KImageIO::mimeTypes and SVG/SVGZ Files

2011-08-31 Thread Alex Merry
On 31/08/11 15:33, Stefan Majewsky wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Albert Astals Cidaa...@kde.org wrote: But I have a general question: Why is there a Name[lang]= field at all ? The translation for the mime types is already given in the shared-mime-info database. Because it is a

Re: kdeinit

2011-08-21 Thread Alex Merry
On 21/08/11 15:23, John Layt wrote: So lets turn that on its head. Lets write a statement saying why we need a spec and what it needs to achieve. Mention we have an existing solution that would be a good starting point, but don't actually detail it. Then send that to xdg and Gnome and Unity

Re: Review Request: KConfig: Fix warning when compiling with GCC 4.6

2011-05-16 Thread Alex Merry
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/101138/#review3343 --- This has been merged. Can you close it, please? - Alex On

Re: Review Request: Using KWallet to store Cookies

2011-05-16 Thread Alex Merry
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://svn.reviewboard.kde.org/r/4927/#review10132 --- Can you discard this, since it is superceded by

Re: Review Request: PATCH: Change the default KIO USERAGENT string.

2011-05-11 Thread Alex Merry
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/101337/#review3262 --- I don't know much about the code, just noticed a couple of

Re: Qt5 - KDE5?

2011-05-10 Thread Alex Merry
On 10/05/11 09:26, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: we also have some blighted API that remains that needs cleaning up, but we also need to exercise restraint. since we don't need to make huge changes to many parts of Platform, we should try and show caution in changing things just because we can. we

Re: Review Request: 'Recent Places' per application and context

2011-03-30 Thread Alex Merry
On March 26, 2011, 1:11 p.m., Alex Merry wrote: As I understand it, Plasma activities have progressed quite a bit in the last two years. Is this still relevant? Should it maybe be discarded, updated and resubmitted? Luca Bellonda wrote: Forget about this patch, it is very old

Re: Review Request: Adding a SolidBackendChooser Widget to KDEUI

2011-03-26 Thread Alex Merry
On March 30, 2009, 2:34 a.m., Andreas Pakulat wrote: So which applications would use this widget, besides the solid kcm's (I'm assuming the kcm's can share the widget without it being in kdelibs)? Dario Freddi wrote: At the moment none, but since Solid is growing, some applications

Re: Review Request: SystemTrayIcon behavior not consistent with taskbar in some circumstances

2011-03-26 Thread Alex Merry
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://svn.reviewboard.kde.org/r/579/#review10026 --- What's the current state of this review? Should it be discarded?

Re: Review Request: 'Recent Places' per application and context

2011-03-26 Thread Alex Merry
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://svn.reviewboard.kde.org/r/643/#review10027 --- As I understand it, Plasma activities have progressed quite a bit

Re: Review Request: A new autoptr class for QPointer.

2011-03-26 Thread Alex Merry
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://svn.reviewboard.kde.org/r/955/#review10028 --- Do we still want this? We now have QScopedPointer, but it

Review board (SVN)

2011-03-26 Thread Alex Merry
The kdelibs group on http://svn.reviewboard.kde.org/ has 80 open reviews going back two years. You'll have noticed that I've started posting questions about whether they should be discarded on the oldest ones - I'm going to do this slowly, so as to avoid flooding k-c-d. But if you could have

kdegraphics has (mostly) moved to git

2011-03-04 Thread Alex Merry
kdegraphics has now moved to git, with the exception of Okular and mobipocket. Alex

Re: Advice needed on BIC

2010-12-15 Thread Alex Merry
On Wednesday 15 December 2010 11:37:51 John Layt wrote: That was always my assumption. Which also makes me confused as to why promoting from private to public would break BIC, why should any change in a formerly private symbol break BIC when it is essentially deleting a private symbol and